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luotang
post Jun 8 2017, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jun 8 2017, 08:47 AM)
Exodus is safe enough for me so far.

I am waiting for their 2FA implementation for better security.

Yes, that is correct, but it must be a cryptocurrency that is currently supported at Exodus.
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OK Thanks for the info.
Gonna give it a try
So after I keep on Exodus I suppose there is a security code for our coins that we can keep it offline?
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post Jun 8 2017, 02:07 PM

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Hi guys, some questions about myetherwallet

So I have created one address.

Is it safe to use it? If it is safe so I can just go to Polo choose withdrawal and send ETH to the address?

So later if I have a ledger nano S then how can I send from MEW to ledger?

Thanks.

Edit: another Q: I tried to enter my private key and change the number a little bit then I can see other people address? If that's the case if someone just change their private key a bit and got my address then anything store in my address is dangerous? rclxub.gif

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post Jun 9 2017, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(luotang @ Jun 8 2017, 02:07 PM)
Hi guys, some questions about myetherwallet

So I have created one address.

Is it safe to use it? If it is safe so I can just go to Polo choose withdrawal and send ETH to the address?

So later if I have a ledger nano S then how can I send from MEW to ledger?

Thanks.

Edit: another Q: I tried to enter my private key and change the number a little bit then I can see other people address? If that's the case if someone just change their private key a bit and got my address then anything store in my address is dangerous?  rclxub.gif
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Anybody happy to share? Any input will be appreciated rclxms.gif
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post Jun 9 2017, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 9 2017, 09:03 AM)
Your keys are only safe if you can ensure no keyloggers and malware infesting your computer, that is why people went out of their way to utilize an offline computer to sign transactions like the guide on my siggy, or simply purchase a hardware wallet to avoid the hassle.

When you plug in your Ledger wallet to MEW, if you save that address and bookmark that Etherscan page, you can always deposit directly without plugging it in each time.

That private key question has already been answered by Coinzin a few pages back, your 24 word seed sequence is so ridiculously unique until you don't have to worry much on others stumbling across your ETH.

Something something about an atom in a Universe.

Btw guys, if you have time for some confidence booster, watch the entire congress hearing regarding crypto.


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Very detailed response, appreciate that thumbup.gif

I just did a deep scan on my computer pretty sure no any malware/virus, so it should be fine

Saw Coinzin post so it means actually I can put in any private key but it is nearly I will stumble into an empty wallet. I thought I have gain access to other people's wallet and hence worry about my own wallet
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QUOTE(wengherng @ Jun 9 2017, 10:06 AM)
With a 24-word recovery seed using BIP44, you are talking about possible combinations in the magnitude of quadrillions.
The chances of someone randomly guessing all the correct 24 words in the exact order is practically infinitesimal and therefore negligible.
Actually, by comparison, there is a far greater chance of you losing the recovery phrase yourself (i.e. destroyed, stolen, misplaced, etc.).
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Thanks, rest assured now

Another (silly question): the wallet address alphabet is always small capital right? Cause in MEW I saw some are big capital some are small capital:

e.g.: 0x...Ad...

while once printed out it becomes:

e.g.: 0x...ad...


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post Jun 9 2017, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 9 2017, 10:29 AM)
Is there a problem with parity? I believe they made it rather straightforward these days.

If you want to mine, you got to have dedicated hardware/software and OS for the job, think you're up for it?
Don't worry, addresses aren't case sensitive
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QUOTE(wengherng @ Jun 9 2017, 11:54 AM)
This is not a silly question at all, and deserves a little bit of understanding.

What you wrote above, "0x......ad......" is the so-called *real* (or raw) ethereum address, which is represented in pure hexadecimal format.
In this format, the addresses with some capital letters are check-summed, while the addresses with all small letters are not check-summed, but otherwise, both addresses are exactly the same address, and both can be used without worry (i.e. technically speaking, NOT case sensitive, as WooTz already mentioned).
The check sum feature is used by some compatible wallet software to check that the address is valid and ensure that the address was not mistyped.

However, in the case of bitcoin, when we send bitcoins to another address, we do not use this address (hexadecimal form), but instead use a Base-58 format (for example 1P2cWsE3GVdB6BLKafkqxHtWAZgFt5Jvm3) which does not contain characters that will confuse users, i.e. 0, O, I and l), and has checksum and version number built-in.
In this instance, the address *is case-sensitive* and must be entered EXACTLY as it is.
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Wow excellent information! Learn something. This thing now seems much more interesting to me. Previously it is just something I buy and hold, gonna see what eth can really do until it captures the interest of Russian top leader
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post Jun 9 2017, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Jun 9 2017, 12:22 PM)
Bingo.
For some folks, it's not really an issue and they don't worry about it.
For paranoid (and poor  sad.gif  ) people like me who could not afford to lose a single cent, I double and triple check the addresses myself before each transaction.

Also, do take note that recently, I've read that some people have their computers infected with a very small malware/virus that will surreptitiously change the bitcoin addresses whenever you click "copy", i.e. when you click copy, the addresses gets stored on the clipboard, and the virus changes the address on the clipboard.
So, when you paste the address, it is actually a different address, i.e. the address of the hacker.
It pays to be careful and check the address again before you hit the "send" button.
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I am also the poor, check few times before transaction hence found the difference in capitalisation

The virus seems malicious. Is there any way to know the computer is infected this virus?
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post Jun 9 2017, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Jun 9 2017, 05:19 PM)
Hey everyone,

Just want to give a short announcement here that we will be starting v3 for the cryptocurrency thread.
Kmarc and myself will start it and work on it a bit (we want to start the thread properly with all the proper and useful information in the beginning).

So, please do NOT visit the new thread yet, and do NOT post anything there first, until we get it up and running, OK?
Meanwhile, let's continue to use this current thread still.

Thank you!
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Good job! thumbup.gif
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post Jun 9 2017, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 9 2017, 10:46 PM)
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Ethereum

Brief Introduction
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How to best participate in ICOs (with parity node)

Download link
https://github.com/paritytech/parity/releases



Here in this video, the example shown is referring to the past Aragon token sale, however the format are all similar for future token sales.

You'll need:

- the contract address from the official ICO site/email, (NEVER trust 3rd party links/addresses)
- the starting block number of the ICO, in our experience with the past BAT ICO, you can and should send it 1-2 blocks earlier to be among the very first to contribute in a frenzy sale.
- sufficient gas limit to participate, not to be confused with gas price. Be sure to confirm this on their slack channel/reddit/twitter if it isn't shown on their site
- if you wish, feel free to tweak the gas price higher depending on how kiasu you want to be in the ICO. higher fees means faster confirmations

For every ETH sent to an ICO contract, you'll receive equivalent amounts of tokens according to their exchange rates, most of the time it's instant, but that depends on how they structure the sale. 

Create an offline PC environment for your Ether paper wallets
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Noteworthy links to catch up on Ethereum news

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/
- orange links are official releases from the core devs, also used to highlight important announcements.
- mainly focus on the technology and adoption aspect of Ethereum, price discussions aren't allowed here.
- core dev meetings are regularly held on the first and third Fridays of each month, there'll be livestream links and transcripts are provided a few days afterwards.
- Pay attention to the upvote count for submissions, anything over 200 upvotes deserves a read.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/
- Daily discussion threads are highly active and spammy, sort by top comments to filter out the noise and gain some cool and interesting insights from redditors.
- Ignore the memes if you can, it's unavoidable when the price spikes to such level.
- Pay attention to the upvote count for submissions/news links, anything over 200 upvotes deserves a read.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtraderpro/
- secondary subreddit by ETH veterans, handy to skip through junk comments as the place will be moderated.
- all thread/comments deserves a read, ignore upvote counts.

http://www.weekinethereum.com/
- If you haven't subscribed to this weekly newsletter, do it now.
- Covers almost everything that's related to Etthereum, and it's all free.
- Spend some time going through all the interviews, they're all fascinating to read/watch.

https://timesofethereum.com/
- Ethereum developments/token sales on a handy calendar

https://www.smithandcrown.com/icos/
- ICO tracker, includes non-Ethereum ones as well
- Please read, listen, and watch as much as you can, do tons of research before putting any money on these ventures, 9/10 of these WILL fail, but 1 of them will make definitely make you rich. Tread carefully

Crypto podcast links
Read the show notes to pick your favorite topics if you find these overwhelming. Perfect to listen during daily commute

http://thebitcoinpodcast.com/
https://epicenter.tv/
https://soundcloud.com/consensys
http://unchained.forbes.libsynpro.com/
http://thecryptoshow.com/soundcloud/
https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/category/episodes
https://etherreview.info/tagged/podcast
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Wow thumbs up for the extraordinary ETH guide! thumbup.gif
that's all the steps required to create an offline wallet?
I thought I just going to use MEW to create a paper wallet and that should be secure enough?

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post Jun 10 2017, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 10 2017, 06:04 AM)
It's still depend on you being able to ensure zero malware and keylogger for your PC at all times.

For the tedious method, you can skip buying hardware wallets and dump a million there without much worry.
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Cool. I will just buy a hardware wallet then, easier rclxms.gif
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post Jun 10 2017, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Jun 10 2017, 12:54 AM)
Hey folks,

Just want to update you guys that the new thread is created, but still needs a lot of work to update the first page properly with the full and comprehensive guidelines.
Till then, we shall continue to keep all discussions on this current thread.
Thanks all!
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Well done!

Wish lowyat has a voting system that can upvote a thread/post
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post Jun 10 2017, 10:32 AM

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Done transferring some ETH from Poloniex to MEW
So scared reading comments about Poloniex insecurity, so transfer to MEW first, and printed the private key out (nothing store in computer)
With the increasing value of ETH, security of coins is what I look for now

Edit: Saw on reddit that paper wallet should only be used once. Means it is advisable to only transfer one time? Why?

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post Jun 10 2017, 02:38 PM

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for those using MEW wallet do you store all ETH in one address or split to different addresses? Which way is better?
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post Jun 10 2017, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 10 2017, 02:46 PM)
I store in different addresses. Don't like to store in only one address.
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because of security?

that means you hold a few addresses and private keys?


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post Jun 10 2017, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Jun 10 2017, 03:00 PM)
Well, think of it this way.
When bitcoin first reached USD 1.00, everyone was commenting on how "expensive" it was at that time, because they remembered the time when it was still trading at USD 0.01.
Those people said the same thing when bitcoin reached USD 100, because they remembered the time when it was only USD 1.00.
Instead of waiting for the price to come down by 10% or 20%, why not just buy now and hold it for a while, and aim for 10000% profit instead?
The best time to invest in bitcoin was in 2009.
The second best time is NOW.
It depends on you, really.
I have all my ETH in one single address, then I subsequently opened up a few other addresses, each holding a single type of coin.
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Ya true. If going to keep in one single address so you just have to keep your private key really safe

QUOTE(wengherng @ Jun 10 2017, 03:09 PM)
Time and tide wait for no man.
Fortune favours the brave.
Do your due diligence, arm yourself with knowledge, and then take action with faith.

Also remember, too much analysis leads to paralysis.
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too much analysis leads to paralysis.+1
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 10 2017, 04:32 PM)
I always give the same advice for crypto, if you have RM1000 a month to buy in, buy RM500 immediately and standby the other half during a dip. That way you don't need to have to deal with FOMO behavior.
I spilt to different Nano S and recently to an offline paper wallet, it's very tedious the first time round, but good education on security!
Remember we can join ICOs with our Nano S through Parity node, need to turn off browser support first for it to appear.

Better not use MEW for everything, let newbies enjoy a lag free experience!
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Wow even hardware wallet you also store to more than 1 wallet?
I guess you must have a really really huge capital there rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(raynman @ Jun 10 2017, 09:21 PM)
I subscribed 20 tokens yesterday.

Got additional 3 tokens as 15% bonus.

My account has a PLBT wallet that is ERC20 compliant, whatever that means. smile.gif
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the subscription ends in 3 days meaning? after 3 days it can be publicly traded in, e.g., Poloniex?
ICO is far from me at the moment
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post Jun 10 2017, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jun 10 2017, 10:27 PM)
No. The PLBT ICO subscription ends on 5th July.

The 3 days is the end of the 15% bonus entitlement period, and the start of the 10% bonus week.  smile.gif
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I really don't dare to put money into these, too kiasi de bye.gif

anyway good luck to you!
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post Jun 10 2017, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jun 10 2017, 10:43 PM)
Even though the investment is only $200, I still do my research and due diligence as it is my first ICO subscription.  smile.gif
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Yes it is always a good idea to do homework into what you want to invest, I believe you must be prudent in your decision

Hope you snap some beautiful return in this rclxms.gif
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post Jun 11 2017, 09:43 AM

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So happy to see ETH skyrocketed!

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