Hi,

I am currently using BPA free plastic water bottles. My job requires me to drive around a lot therefore the water bottle is in the car most of the time. It really annoys me that the water gets warm after a while.

I am on the look out for a stainless steel bottle. The price varies massively.
Are there really huge differences in quality to justify the price differences or is it really just the "branding"?
There are others that are even more expensive than Thermos such as Tiger and Zojirushi.

Thermos with 5 years warranty RM205
http://thermosmalaysia.com/product/hydrati...uch-ffz-series/


ThermoCafe RM100 with 5 years warranty
http://www.lazada.com.my/genuine-thermos-1...a-12787958.html


Relax (China) RM61
https://potskitchenware.com/drinkware/relax...with-free-pouch


Relax (China) RM83
http://aino.com.my/products/eating-enterta...ask-1000ml.html


Zebra (Thailand) RM93
http://www.lazada.com.my/zebra-vacuum-flas...91.html?rb=1574


No name from Lazada RM63
http://www.lazada.com.my/1000ml-stainless-...ck-4227142.html

if you can afford it go for the established brand like thermos

purity of the stainless steel used perhaps?

the difference in price is the difference of the duration of the temperature it can keep.

i however would get a standard brand rather than no brand or some china unknown brand.

some can keep the temperature for long hours, up to 24 hours. some only 12 hours. and lousy shit can last maybe 3 or 4 hours

Contigo has good reviews for keeping things hot or cold for a very long time. I'm not sure if the capacity is enough for you.

This is correct

Bpa ones only good for one year. Less than that.

Since my units always broken i opt for only stainless steel botol.

U guys need drillz?

My suggestion if u r in a tight budget, zebra flask shud be the best choice. Even tho its made in thailand.. Zebra is a renound thailand brand..

why you need to buy termos with warranty

you buy normal (not too cheap) RM50-80 termos also ok edi

steel bekos tahan lasak

Zojirushi brand also ok

Put a ice box in the boot , fill with ice , stuff as many drinks you want , can easily last few days , ice ice cold water or drinks

Thanks for the suggestion but I am not looking for that option.
And what if it spills?

Got drain plug to drain excess water

Even more expensive than Thermos

Thanks for your input. Yup I understand that Zebra has been around for a long time. It's an ISO company.

I heard that too that it lasts just a year. But is it due to the plastic or wear and tear?

Thanks for your input. Really appreciate it.

Regarding the temperature, it doesn't really matter to me. I am not going camping or like that. Just need to last me at least 6 hours.
And I am not going to put cold drink. Just room temperature. That is why I never looked into stainless steel before plus it's so expensive.
But it's really annoying now that within an hour my water is warm.

Price is way too high for the size. Thanks for your suggestion though. I'll stick to Thermos if I want to spend that kind of money.

if want to keep water cold, better buy those small fridge for cars, these thermos only good for keeping drinks warm, if keeping drinks cold rm400+ product also can only keep 3hours max

Yes there are some codes like 18/8 that's used by Thermos. I guess that's the standard.

Thanks for your input. Thermos is definitely a brand that I would prefer if I decide to spend RM200. Not gonna go over and buy Tiger or the other Japanese brand. It's just too much.

It's $20 on amazon, I remember seeing it for sale for around RM80+ at shopee. Not sure if it's still available.

then a normal one would do. those at RM50 price range i think.

I buy china brand RM75, leaking, lousy design, seals dun last

Go buy establish brands

This post has been edited by azbro: Mar 6 2017, 01:43 PM

if u r planning to use it everyday..

spend abit more..get a brand with establish reputation and quality la..

Different in material and construction. Usually such bottle is used for many many years, so the money is justified to get good one. Tiger and Thermos are both good brand, Zebra is a cheaper Thailand alternative. Never ever goes cheap, especially on the gasket material.

- Thicker vs thinner steel. Matters in term of heat/cold holding and toughness when dropped.
- Double wall vs single wall. Double wall will retain heat/cold much longer.
- Double walled bottom (thermos type) or just plain bottom. Again, got to do with heat/cold retention.
- Cap spout design. Is it pourable, drip proof, etc.
- Cap material. If you are storing hot water, you might want a better thermo plastic material.
- Gasket material. Usually silicon gasket to ensure water tightness. If you store hot water, you want better silicon seal material. Cheap bottle will sees the gasket material degrade fast over time, not to mention leaching dangerous chemical into the water.
- Other function.... useful or not, depends on you.

Looking at the options, I'd pick Zebra.
I bought many Zebra stainless steel products from Thailand.
They are good quality products.

I have no faith in China made stainless steel products.
I have a feeling Thermos' products are China made as well.

Last but not least, please come back throwing some punches at Diablo the Dark Lord.
It is been too long you leave your Nephalem brethren behind.

Why not glass bottles? Safer for health.

Where do you think the common household category "thermos" get its name from?

Don't tempt with fake. Get the branded one for safety, reliability, longevity, satisfaction.

Plain water will taste like you've never drank one before.

Sorry i should put bpa free lol

Bpa is a substance that makes plastic more durable, somethibg like break resistance.

Mine one if not fall down, will just crack at the mouth there

Am using thermos, the first one
If put plain water, taste like water

He's always on the road, and want his drink chilled under the sun, not boiling hot when he returns to vehicle.

Plus, why risks breaking glass on the road. What if got into an accident and the glass bottle states flying around.

Thanks for your input.

Look for one with vacuum between inner and outer wall.

Correct. Glass bottle will get hot. And it's fragile.

Read this thread:
https://np.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/commen...g75y/?context=3

The expert recommended this, Stanley Master:
https://gearjunkie.com/stanley-2017-master-series-preview

Thanks for your advice.

Thanks for your input.
I've ditched the China branded ones from my list.

Thanks for your advice.
I use it every day. I literally bring it everywhere I go. Malls, futsal, gym etc.

My friend said starbuck thermos is good

Thank you very much for your valuable information.

ya.. especially things tht store ur drinking water.. dont skimp on it..

Thanks for your input.

Yes, after doing research I believe Zebra is the best of the rest with the best being Thermos, Tiger and the other Japanese brand.
I need to search where Thermos is manufactured in.

Hmmm I don't really get your last paragraph.
A bit lost here. Care to explain?

Thanks for your input. A lot of things are much cheaper in USA. However when we ship it to Msia, it evens out or becomes even more expensive.
Really frustrating when I go on Amazon. They earn so much more and have much more variety of products and their prices are cheaper.

Correct. I guess it's Zebra vs the Japs &Thermos for me now.

After 2 month all of it happened, receipt also I throw away oledi

I had to contact the main distributor here and send pictures to them showing it was not my fault, then went back to the shop I purchased it to get another one...dem hassle.

Thermos is Japan brand and made in Malaysia.

The factory is in shah alam.

Invented in 1892 by Sir James Dewar, a scientist at Oxford University, the "vacuum flask" was not manufactured for commercial use until 1904, when two German glass blowers formed Thermos GmbH. They held a contest to name the "vacuum flask" and a resident of Munich submitted "Thermos", which came from the Greek word "Therme" meaning "hot".

History of the Themos Company: http://www.kitchenkapers.com/hisofthercom.html

Set up of Thermos® Malaysia manufacturing plant, Top Thermo Mfg in 1989
http://thermosmalaysia.com/history/

I have a few Thermos products, love them.

If you want to keep your drink cold or hot for very long time, make sure the flask is "vacuum" insulated. Not only double walled. It should be stated on the product. If not, don't buy.

A lot of of cheaper flasks are either using only double walled or foam insulation. Even lower ranges Thermos are foam insulated. So choose carefully.

Now some Thermos products are made in China, as long as it is "vacuum" insulated, it is good.




This post has been edited by gaman: Mar 6 2017, 03:12 PM

I have 3 thermos product and they serve me well.

2 made in china while the other one made in malaysia.

Thanks for your info.
All their products for the Malaysian market is made in Malaysia?
Or some are imported from China and Japan?

Now some of Thermos model having 20% discount at AEON.
Cheaper one is the usual flask RM45 or RM48 for 0.5 litre. To keep plain hot or cold water is ok.
Coffee or tea need to buy the bigger opening ones, more expensive

Zojirushi is better than Tiger and Thermos.

Where to find this type of thermo kettle?

that brand name --> Relax

So not all of their products are made in Malaysia. Hard to tell which country it's made in as there is no info on their website.
I've sent them an email. But I would say there is not much of a difference between Malaysia and China. If it was Japan it would definitely be on a different level.

Hi thanks for your input. That is a very valuable advice re:vacuum.
Thankfully the Thermos that I am eying is vacuum insulated.

Yeah, I don't think there would be much of a difference between China and Malaysia unlike Japan or a developed Western country.

Thanks for the information.

So far 3 thermos that I buy (2 tumbler and 1 mug) is from Malaysia.

Do not buy from china. Their price are more higher. When I shop in shenzhen.

Using 1 for coffee everyday. 12oz.

The packaging do write made in where.

buy the brands that easy to get the sillicone part replacement...because it will grow fungi and become black and hard to clean

It will definitely say where on the box but no info on the net at all.

Thanks for your advice

How long have you been using them?
So none of the Thermos bought in Malaysia will be from other countries other than Malaysia or China?

Because it's made from japan?
I would believe so too as I believe that products made in Japan are of higher quality due to their workmanship and quality control.

I went through their products however they don't have any bottle with a pouch. Therefore it's out.
This is the closest they have but I am not a fan of this type. I prefer a pouch.

Go to Aeon buy.

Sometime got offer very cheap.

The mug been 7yrs+. 2 tumbler around 1-3yrs. Have another 1 tumbler missing which been use for few yrs.

All written made in malaysia.

Not necessarily made in Japan, but even their made in China ones are good. You can't really get many choices here. If you have friends or relatives visiting Japan, best to ask them to hand carry one back for you. I have one Thermos and Tiger before I got my Zojirushi. The Zojirushi one is the best among them.

1 of the thermos flask that I have (Hydration) is clearly marketed for Japan as the box is full of Japanese with little English. And guess what, the bottle is made in China lol.

Get vacuum insulated thermos. Vacuum insulation greatly reduce heat transfer.

My 0.3l thermos also all in jap word. But made in Malaysia.

Hi. Thanks for your input. I saw this too online and in iSetan yestarday.
I don't really know why this line of ThermosCafe is cheaper than the normal Thermos.

There is no offer in Aeon at the moment. But I only saw Thermos and La GOurmet.
At Parkson they have Thermos only and they do have 20% offer.
At iSetan they have Tiger and Thermos but only an offer for the latter.
Tiger is RM279 for the same type and size as Thermos although it's only made in China.
So at this point, I feel like if I were to splurge, it'll be on Thermos.

Thanks but I don't have friends or relatives visiting Japan.
I do have clients that do visit Japan frequently for business trips but I don't think it's appropriate for me to ask them

Thanks. Yup. Got that. Somebody mentioned it earlier.

Tiger is made in China.
I was at iSetan yesterday and open the drawer to look for the boxes since there was absolutely no sales assistants on the floor in the kitchen department.
Box was full of Japanese writings but it says made in China.

They cost around ¥3,200 excluding 8% GST for a 480ml flask.

Hi there,

May I know which one you ended up buying? A little bit of review would help me in my decision making Thanks.

Just get the Thermos.

It is the best.

The only difference when using stainless steel bottle is that your water will be boiling hot instead of warm.

I have a Zojirushi flask. Easy to clean and doesn't leak!

use Tiger brand
gooding..

Hi there. I bought the THermos FFZ 1.5l in the end.
Was always checking the prices on Thermos every month to see if they have discounts and also other online stores but nothing.
Went to Japan and saw it for under RM100 for the 1.5l bottle and quickly ordered it. The item arrived 1 day late and even arrived later than the scheduled time. Left my AirBnB house 1+ after check out and walked to the train station.

Sure enough jsut before I hit the main road I bumped into the delivery lady and she quickly gave me my bottle. I asked her the day before for the bottle hence she knew exactly what I want from her.

I guess that is why I love this bottle so much now. hehe.

Anyways, it is good but the ice cubes being able to stay intact for hours is not true. Other than that, no complaints at all. Worth every RM80-90 whatever it was. Not sure if I would spend RM185 (in Msia) though.

I also bought a smaller size 0.8l for my little sister. I originally wanted to buy the dual cup so that she can use it for hot drinks and cold drinks for school but they didn't have the model that she wanted so I just bought the cold one. My gf went to Japan again after that trip so I thought of ordering the cap for hot drink. Luckily I checked with thermos beforehand whether the opening are of the same size and be able to interchange it. Unfortunately for me, it is not.

So if you have a friend going to Japan or you yourself are going anytime soon, then just order it in Japan.