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Where's the damn spider that was in the corner?
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Feb 11 2020, 03:57 PM
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Feb 13 2020, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 10 2019, 09:41 AM) Biggest in the world does not mean kacang if the said company cannot produce good earnings. Yes, earnings report is important and if one buy and hold and HOPE THAT THE MARKET WILL CORRECT THEIR INITIAL INVESTMENT/TRADING MISTAKE will only find the market is a cruel sadistic sob who doesn't give a hoot about you. Karex today how muchie? Yes, having strong conviction/belief in your own research and strategy is important, very important as I very much believe in it too but I also find it extremely important the extreme thin fine line between having a strong conviction and being utterly stubborn and what kills in the stock market is being utterly stubbornly wrong. Imagine one bought Karex around 2.00. Price now? ![]() All the patience would not help one single bit. One should have admit they are blardy wrong to buy at 2.00 and should have cut loss long, long, long ago. There's no shame in cutting loss. It's not a blardy sin and don't die foolishly listening to others. And averaging down? Yeah, and some call it dollar cost averaging. LOL! I only call it BUYING MORE OF YOUR MISTAKES. Anyway, for Karex, at 2.00, how much can you actually average down? Mind doing a real count? Oh, the stock is rather active today. ![]() How? |
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Feb 13 2020, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 13 2020, 07:59 PM) Woahhh!!!Wait a minute... What I wrote there was taken from a series of reply to a post on April 2019, explaining why I thought it was not a good idea to bet on ppbank when it was around 22++. OK? |
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Feb 14 2020, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Feb 14 2020, 02:40 PM) PB considered good buy? Its lower than 52 weeks low already, and Maybank has returned upwards. Why is PB falling so much? 52 weeks highs/lows are probably the most absurd indicator to use.Consider this. 1. A stock on a bull run. Hitting record highs. Won't it be hitting 52 week highs constantly? Now if one use this as indicator to consider cabut simply cos the stock is already shooting highs and that it would most likely retreat its share price, won't one be selling one awfully short? 2. Stock on a bear run. Runtoh rumah. Plunging down. Now wouldn't the stock be hitting 52 week lows constantly? If one buy, then how? Karex had constant 52 week lows not too long when it plunged from 2+. Karex today is less than 50 sen. 3. PBBank was hitting 52 week lows when it hit 22+ last year. If use this indicator to buy........ How? My take? Throw this stupid indicator in the longkang. Stock hit 52 weeks low for a reason.... |
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Feb 15 2020, 10:11 AM
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Feb 19 2020, 10:13 AM
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Feb 25 2020, 05:48 PM
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Feb 27 2020, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Feb 27 2020, 12:22 PM) Don't know whether it is currently having sales, or market is overpriced. For me, I always stick to my own game plan. Revenue of most company is dropping, amd the virus running wild. I don't see any good opportunity in buying to trade at the moment If there is nothing going for me....it is ok that I do nothing and play marbles. |
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Mar 12 2020, 03:05 PM
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Mar 13 2020, 11:56 AM
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Mar 13 2020, 12:29 PM
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Mar 13 2020, 04:56 PM
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Mar 17 2020, 09:57 AM
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Mar 19 2020, 09:24 AM
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Be patience....
Study past success and past mistakes... Know why you won big.... And those mistakes, learn why you farked up and see how you can avoid making them again.. Stay safe and stay hungry for more success!! |
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Mar 19 2020, 11:21 AM
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Mar 19 2020, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 14 2020, 02:55 PM) 52 weeks highs/lows are probably the most absurd indicator to use. Repeat again....Consider this. 1. A stock on a bull run. Hitting record highs. Won't it be hitting 52 week highs constantly? Now if one use this as indicator to consider cabut simply cos the stock is already shooting highs and that it would most likely retreat its share price, won't one be selling one awfully short? 2. Stock on a bear run. Runtoh rumah. Plunging down. Now wouldn't the stock be hitting 52 week lows constantly? If one buy, then how? Karex had constant 52 week lows not too long when it plunged from 2+. Karex today is less than 50 sen. 3. PBBank was hitting 52 week lows when it hit 22+ last year. If use this indicator to buy........ How? My take? Throw this stupid indicator in the longkang. Stock hit 52 weeks low for a reason.... THROW that 52 week low in the longkang. It's absolute garbage. Take PBbank once again. If you had used the 52 week low.. you probably be a lame duck buying the stock 22+ last year. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 6 2019, 10:09 AM) Regarding Mayban.... And once more... the meat issue. The strategy... First. To have a target of 10... for me... it's right off the charts. Which means ur strategy is dictated by the chart... If that was the case, the buy is supported by the fact the stock did have a support of around 8.50 recently. However how strong of a support is that? I for one, would be worried of the immediate down channel which is looking rather prominent.. Can u see that channel/trend? If basing on this I would be asking if the risk/reward justifies the trade. Doesn't look like too much meat there.... ** here is the chart ** [attachmentid=10328165] **addum** so if one buy at 8.50 with the target set at 10, the potential upside is 1.50 or about 17% ... and the stop loss? 7%? 7.5%? 10%? The gain is not that much , yes? Yeah dividends can help... but then this is a time factor issue where if it was me, I would probably factor in other stuff... for example, previously at 10, Mayban was trading with a trailing dps of 57 sen or a pretty generous 5.7% yield. Yet here we are, despite that generous 5.7% yield, the stock is now at 8.44 and the yield is 6.75% (higher yield due to the falling stock price). So definitely the dividend doesn't seem to help the 'investor' at all. Of course this could drag on forever, if one starts insisting by holding the stock on a longer time frame, such as more than one year... but then... this would have gone against the initial strategy of betting to win 1.50 from this mayban trade, yes? The meat in the initial trade isn't really that fat in the first place. Now if I have to hold it longer, then my compounded returns would be down for this stock play.... and then what about the DRP factor if I were to hold it on a longer time frame? Would earnings dilutions be a factor (I have yet to look see into this...so... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stocks are priced to its future prospects... right now, the banking sector is not looking too good as global banks are cutting its rates. A lower Opr from Bank N would cause lower loan interest rates which means the risk is that Bank earnings would decline in the near future. Less earnings would means the possibly of lesser dividends. Adding to its problems, its already been reported that loan growths are already declining... So.. atm.. I would not jump in. Just sharing la... I could always be wrong by being too conservative.... And this ain't an attack. Such an important issue to consider when you want to trade. If there is no meat, what's the bloody point? You are taking big money to make small money. That's simply not a sexy proposition for me. If the potential reward is so small, don't bother la |
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Mar 20 2020, 03:43 PM) Is today session dead cat bounce? Hard to analyse this these situation. Anyone can share their view? Ok. Let me share what I normally do. If I am not sure (like you are not sure if it's a dead cat Bounce) it clearly tells me that I am not sure. If I am not sure, I will never trade. That's just me. Yes, market is trading strongly higher at this moment and yes, it looks tempting to dive in for a quick kill. One thing about quick kills in a stock that has plunged badly and deeply. Well, the price of the entry is usually much cheaper (compared to few weeks or few months ago)... Now due to this 'cheap' entry price, some traders usually fall into a trap... cos they start dreaming.... Wah.. I buy so cheap.. got chance for me to win big leh... Ini curry la..... So instead of their initial quick kill or one shot one kill bunter, they start thinking of uncle Buffett.... So they started to be an investor... and then... Market falls again.......... This post has been edited by Boon3: Mar 20 2020, 05:09 PM |
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Mar 21 2020, 07:19 AM
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Mar 23 2020, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Mar 22 2020, 11:49 PM) Ic. By sector, you mean contracting and manufacturing? Does it matter? Cause I see it as they are in different industry. Contracting and manufacturing is different. Yes. But you went heavy into businesses that relies on governmental contracts. You mitigate your trading method risks via stuff like expectancy. (search lo - dun be lazy) and you can further improve if understand the stock itself. Knows the pros and the risk. Every individual stock has its own risks. Some more than others. Mitigate these risks and trade win percentage will drastically improve. Contracts can be cancelled. We have seen it far too many times recently. The virus has grinded nearly everything to a stop. Earnings will decline. So right now, just plan ahead but do not commit yourself to any trade. Make your game plan. Prepare. |
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