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post Aug 10 2020, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 10 2020, 08:20 PM)
i was expecting 300 too.

the reality was while they slightly more than double the sales units, the ASP incr was impressive.

profit margin almost tripled to 44%!

now, that is very impressive.... any biz wud love to have that.

anyway, i am curious what this will do the rest of the glovemakers tmr in the following days and weeks.
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Forgot to add this...

Like Harta case, Superman current qtr result doesn't really matter.

Because... all the TPs were based on fy21 or cy21 numbers.

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post Aug 10 2020, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 10 2020, 08:20 PM)
i was expecting 300 too.

the reality was while they slightly more than double the sales units, the ASP incr was impressive.

profit margin almost tripled to 44%!

now, that is very impressive.... any biz wud love to have that.

anyway, i am curious what this will do the rest of the glovemakers tmr in the following days and weeks.
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And the ASP increases... won't there be repercussions in the future?

Put it this way...
If my supplier keeps on increasing price constantly at an alarming rate... there will be a time in the future... if ever I get the opportunity, I would tell my supplier to buzz off

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post Aug 10 2020, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Aug 10 2020, 08:42 PM)
Yes, that is the day when covid is already reducing, or there are other companies start making glove.

But no matter what, its not gonna within these few months.  biggrin.gif
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Yup. It's not gonna happen now but one day it will...

Cos the news of these glove makers enjoying wild profits due to higher ASP will be known to their buyers....
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post Aug 10 2020, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 10 2020, 09:04 PM)
this... those scientists do say, from their forecasts, that the prices will peak in mid or late 2021... 2022 will NOT enjoy that anymore.

with more capacity, maybe less use, etc... that is a reasonable assumption.

so, the game is until then only.
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Very soon we will see prices based on fy 22 estimates la...

Else how to get them forty prices laugh.gif

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post Aug 11 2020, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Aug 10 2020, 09:32 PM)
Didn't read much, didn't he sold all superman at 18?

Offtopic, is Superman going to fly to 23?
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That's why MALU for him laaa

He own self give rocket number mah......
which had the target price based on his gold standard 20xpe ...
the TP (toilet paper) price for SuperMan to be around 24

But he did not TRUST what he wrote...
and out of the blue...
after giving that high price (back then) ... he sold at 18++


and then to makes matter worst ...
he started talking ayam saying Superman is expensive based on how many % it had risen since March....
ask people to follow the other stock he had bought...


well, this is the last time I am kindly suggesting...

do not read his writings or follow his stock writes which obviously written so that he can profit when people follow his writes.
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post Aug 11 2020, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 11 2020, 12:16 AM)
think so... the new TP's for 2 of them will v soon become 40, 50...! laugh.gif
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here's a question for u .... tongue.gif

If you had not cashed out on Friday ...
where would you set your cut profit/loss point?

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post Aug 11 2020, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Aug 11 2020, 08:36 AM)
Ah ok, guess I was confused between him and the affin guy, since I thought only 1 guy predict tp more than 100. Thanks.
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Hope you don't mind me asking.....

1. Do you think it's important to have your own trading edge?

ie ... you ant to trade in such a manner, that you know it is best trading method, where you have a decidedly much better advantage than others?

2. If so, won't listening/following/reading stuff from this old fart, where he had been proven to buy, promote what he buys (he does it by writing) and then dumping?

3. His track record of failures is quite long....

4. His track record of people following his recommendation and getting burned is LONG too ....

Therefore .... a friendly word .... avoid at all cost .... well, that is if you want to be a good and successful trader yourself.

anyway just my 3 sen opinion and you have the rights to disagree completely. LOL! Cause many time I simply talk ayam one. laugh.gif
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post Aug 11 2020, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Aug 11 2020, 08:48 AM)
Personally, I dun trust him. He is a cunning fox. Most recent is when he sold his supermax, and then write a blog about it. If he is sincere, he would have write the blog first, so we can sell together.

In short, take his word with a pinch of salt.
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If the market on gloves wasn't so bullish ... he would have gotten shit all over once again.


Yeah... taking it with a pinch of salt is good but in general, trust me, it's a distraction.

Trust your own reasoning..... thumbsup.gif
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post Aug 11 2020, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 11 2020, 08:05 AM)

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TopGun ... current ...

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'If' you have it...

1. where and how would you plant your exit?
2. what are the sell indicators to look for?



Here are some things that I see...

1. UPTREND of course is intact lor
2. That candle on the 4th ..
3. number of hitam candles is getting more ....
4. the low current volume ...


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nothing too conclusive imo ......



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post Aug 11 2020, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 11 2020, 11:28 AM)
i play it both ways...

some, i keep, no matter what... until split done with, us ban resolved.

the rest... i start taking profit now at 27.96/98... resistance at 28.00.

later in the afternoon, yet to see...
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Ooo.... you see the weak price action huh .....
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post Aug 11 2020, 11:37 AM

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Kenanga trying to play catch up ....

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Undemanding FY21E PER valuation of 17x compared to expected
earnings growth of 200%. Correspondingly, our TP is raised from
RM17.10 to RM25.45 based on 20.8x CY21 revised EPS of 122.3 sen
(previously 22x) (at slightly below +2.0SD above the 5-year historical
forward mean). We like Supermax because: (i) the stock is trading at an
undemanding 17x FY21E EPS compared to expected explosive
earnings growth of >100%, and (ii) its OBM model enables it to extract
higher margin from distributor prices, compared to the OEM model at
lower factory prices. Reiterate Outperform


Comments.

1. wtf is 20.8x pe multiple?
LOL! 20x cannot meh? 22x cannot meh? why need to sound so geng using 20.8x.
So baffling! LOL!

2. Again is CY. WTF is wrong with these scientist. Grrrr..... why cannot stick to Fiscal year?
you susah susah make a research report and you want me to figure out WTF you are trying to say?
You be fired if I am the one you are writing for... tongue.gif

So CY 21 will consists of 2021 Q2, 2021 Q3, 2021 Q4, 2022 Q1 reports.

See how bloody confusing and ridiculous it is! vmad.gif

3. Estimate CY EPS is 122.3. The number of share outstanding they use is 1291 million shares.
Their estimate CY profit then should be 1576 million. Correct ah? tongue.gif

Yeah... damn... the user must count sendiri.... doh.gif

4. If only 1571 million... then annualised (divide by 4) ~ 394 million per quarter only wo....

Isn't the scientist behind the curve? or is the scientist suggesting no growth? hmm.gif


*** perhaps another report is coming... with bigger numbers? rolleyes.gif


** my counting correct ah? rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 11 2020, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 11 2020, 11:38 AM)
TG vol today will be less than yesterday's 15mil.

i dun expect it to go much beyond 28, even if it does.

i was expecting bigger vol due to spmx "inspiration"... but, no...

it will take another trigger to bring back the vol.

hopefully soon! tongue.gif
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see the posting above this .... tongue.gif
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post Aug 11 2020, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 11 2020, 11:45 AM)
this, i suspect he has built in ASP easing off starting sometime in 2h CY2021.
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they have a new report out on Harta too...

they increased their estimate cy21 eps... lol...

so tp is now ... 26.22

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me? I cannot play this game...

btw.... I think it is pointless to look at Harta already .... waste time .... laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Aug 11 2020, 12:05 PM

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Ah Kong.... Die hard hard ......

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Ah Mei..... Die hard .... will it be die hard hard soon?

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Goreng so fast so hard until whatever fundamentals also hanggus ... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Aug 11 2020, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Aug 11 2020, 12:11 PM)
Another counter which may suffer a fall is GKENT. Goreng so fast this week. Political stocks next to be gorend-ed?  biggrin.gif
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It's well documented that a good entry (ie buying at the right price) solves most problems .... but knowing what are the tell tale sign to exit the stock for a profit is just as useful .... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 11 2020, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Aug 11 2020, 02:33 PM)
what if selling too soon and missed out the huge swing?  innocent.gif
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devil.gif .... LOL

This hor .... must remember ......... once it's sold .... it's not mine.

Once sold .... case closed.... whistling.gif

HABIS cerita la.....

it doesn't matter whether the stock goes up much, much higher.
And it doesn't matter whether the stock justifies the selling and retreats much lower.

if keep thinking what happens next after selling.... this is the fastest way to be a trader who never sells at all.... LOLOLOLOL!!!!

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post Aug 11 2020, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(kevraul @ Aug 11 2020, 05:04 PM)
Could not agree more on this.
But so hard to put into practice.
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Cannot get too emotionally attached to the stocks.... smile.gif
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post Aug 11 2020, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Aug 11 2020, 08:13 PM)
@Boon3 bro what s ur comment on this? really feel a bit sad of the massive decline.
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Stock was goreng way past its fundamentals...

Clear sign to sell the stock based on how it run up....
see chart posted this morning...
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post Aug 11 2020, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Aug 11 2020, 08:27 PM)
hv u tried ur method to test on these goreng stocks? its possible we can win them right
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You can win actually...if you have the hindsight to be in b4 the crowd...

For example...
The gold movement did not happened overnight.
If one had paid attention, one could easily got in when gold was less than usd1700.
Easily.
Next, you must have your own conviction that the gold would run..
Ok, even if one have dilly dally, it was possible that one would have look at gold at usd 1900..
At that point...
Buy Bank Negara gold coins (which I thought was the bang bucks option) but if one were die die insisting on stocks, then one would have considered stocks like Ah Kong.
This would have been a better way to speculate.
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post Aug 11 2020, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Aug 11 2020, 08:46 PM)
in such a short period, in a matter of 1-2 weeks, can see a similar pattern for some stocks , they take turns, pharma > gold > oil . Some penny stocks also. Most of them crashed yest and today.
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Not connecting...

You were asking me if it was possible to have profited from gold stock, my answer was yes. Be in first.

Yes a lot of penny stocks crashed. It happens. So many were simply simply goreng up. Some mentioned Nice. I took the extra initiative to screen shot the briefest financials data. Clearly Nice was not a stock to touch. But yet Nice flew so high.... and now it corrected big time. Err.. normal what. Nothing shocking imo.

Today, some 1 also hinted the new glove stock... fundamentals aside... the bottom line was the stock was just less than 15 sen not too long ago. It was above 1.00+ when I replied that message. Anyway, it just proves these punters are not doing the extra work needed. They needed to do at least minimum background check...
etc etc...

And the stocks that crashed.. didn't they simply went limit up? So now they fall down hard....err... normal la

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