Dude, I know you work in Apple Center in somewhere KL but this is like buying a bottle of water but you just want the bottle. Can you ask any stores to do that? Pour out the water and sell the bottle ONLY 2u?

...and I think TS should watch Get a Mac ads. Why buy Mac products if you do not want to use it. Why get a Mac and install those Windows/Linux and etc OS. Get a Mac purpose is to try something new which is the arrogant Mac OS Ten.

Go Apple Center in the States and ask them about it, it'll be the joke of the day for them.

This post has been edited by Mike3300: Mar 4 2007, 08:41 PM

why you just treat it as a joke?
my sister bought a mac 1.8Ghz (intel based) and she decided want to use Windows XP however would like to keep the design and outer appearance of the mac laptop. because she like the cosmetic appearance of a mac book.
therefore i thought buying a macbook without osx and swap with her machine.

how about, I vote we lock this thread, since LYN members are more interested in making jokes than in helping people?

your ideal or application in this case is very wise (too wise )
but .. your sis system would not work (windom Xp ) without the mac os X...

all mac pc need the original mac OS .. to boot up the mac system 1st...

and the apple mac osx are very iitelligent is their own way ... one mac os only can run on one mac pc .... meaning that when you install the mac os it is only good for that particular mac pc ...
cos the mac os always update you with the latest firmware from their support system ... so .. with the mac os install .. it read your pc system serial number ....

i hope this can be helpful to you ...

i wonder how valid a question can be these days

suns8630, please don't share wrong information. There's no real copy protection on Mac OS itself.

Please share your source for this particular information

ezinger,
There's really no such thing as a stupid question *grins*

I am a pround owner of imac G5 and a powerbook G4... so to say I am having two sets of Mac OS X ...

as the quote by "xaw5126" regards to the "wrong Infromation" I would like to just clear the air a little bit ......

with the two copies MAC os X that i am having .. i could not just simply... install it on other mac system as i like .....

tricky : Yes .. one can always install the copy of MAC OS X in any mac system BUT the copy that come with your MAC system IS only good for that particular system...(cos it read your system serial number for what so ever latest update on ALL the appication in your mac )

unless .. the copy that you have it is a stand alone (Mac os X ) and it is NOT the MAC OSX that comes with the system .....

so ,... in this case ... the person whom asking this question is intending to use his sister mac system Mac osx ....in another mac system ... !!!!

it is a very very doubt question ... :

I would be sure .. if you were to answer MAC personnal ... the answer will be a straigth NO NO

lol?
to my preference, an oblivious question would seem to cater to ignorance.

its like asking why does your tyre of your car spin when the car moves? why is white, white? why do i wear clothes? why do i eat? why do i sleep? why is rock hard? how stupid can one be?

suns8630, Your source of information is your own experience. However, I have used a copy of Mac OS from a MacBook Pro and installed on *another* MacBook Pro. The information that the installer reads is *not* the serial number, but the machine ID. That's why you can't normally do it with differing machine ID.

Also, this is the computer industry we're talking about. Almost everything can be hacked

I'll repeat my question for clarity, where did you get this information from ?
Have you actually read the Apple license agreements? (http://www.apple.com/legal/sla)

This post has been edited by xaw5126: Mar 5 2007, 02:21 PM

Just like installing mac osx in genetic pc..

That's why you can't do cross installs. The CDs/DVDs are for different generation machines with probably different hardware. It's not a copy protection thing. xaw5126 don't bash the guy

From experience, MacOS traditionally has not had any copy protection until OSX Intel. I worked for a group that supported hundreds of Macs and we did our own legally questionable installs from CDs/DVDs without problems. OSX before Intel does not have copy protection.

This post has been edited by tishaban: Mar 5 2007, 03:34 PM

does it have copy protection now?

I'm not trying to bash people... just that I work in a retail store and I come across lots of people who read on forums all kinds of misinformation.

Trying to make a difference here.

OSX Intel has copy protection in the form of the trusted platform computing module (TPM) on the hardware itself. Some binaries on the DVD are encrypted and can only be decrypted when it finds the TPM that exists on all Intel Macs but not on most regular Intel PCs. The hackintosh out there uses osx86 DVDs that bypasses the two things above.

Some Google links about OS X encrypted binaries and OS X copy protection

OK I take back the bash part

Still not trying to bash anyone. Just trying to find some real sources...

Anyway, the TS is trying to get out of paying for Mac OS since he already has a copy. The correct answer for him is, that copy of Mac OS is for legal use with one machine only.
Unless he erases it and installs on the new Mac and his sister goes on to Linux or Windows

But as far as the machine itself, I still haven't seen any sources saying there's copy protection on the Mac OS itself. I mean, the Apple developers don't show any signs of any API or something related to it.

@tishaban, your links are mostly related to the Developer Macs that Apple was sending out after August 2005.

This is what I mean by a source
Apple TPM @ Wikipedia

ok, here is the direct quote by apple in regard to this matter

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/MacOSX103.html

1. General. The software (including Boot ROM code), documentation and any fonts accompanying this License whether on disk, in read only memory, on any other media or in any other form (collectively the "Apple Software") are licensed, not sold, to you by Apple Computer, Inc. ("Apple") for use only under the terms of this License, and Apple reserves all rights not expressly granted to you. The rights granted herein are limited to Apple's and its licensors' intellectual property rights in the Apple Software and do not include any other patents or intellectual property rights. You own the media on which the Apple Software is recorded but Apple and/or Apple's licensor(s) retain ownership of the Apple Software itself. The terms of this License will govern any software upgrades provided by Apple that replace and/or supplement the original Apple Software product, unless such upgrade is accompanied by a separate license in which case the terms of that license will govern.

i get dizzy from reading this, but i hope you all know this inggrish language

i told my sister to buy another laptop (windows) already. and her eyes pop out.

jackal1950,
Y does ur sister need to get another Windows based laptop? I don't follow....

yup ..i concur that...


if she wanna really loves the Mac design ..she should converted herself to be Mac-user.

installing winxp is just an option ..not mandatory

jackal1950,
You're shifting ur problem to making it ur sister's..! Leave her and her MacBook and OSX CDs alone. If ur gonna get another MacBook just pay for it and ask if u can buy it without the OS CD. If can then u save some $, if cannot then just pay for it lah - it's bundled in oredi mah....

There... problem solved