any forumer here know what kind of job have salary more than 4 or 5 thousand??what they want?

4-5 thousand is a very common pay for senior exec...wat so special about that?

i heard people said their salary only 1500 after college,then what job can have 4 or 5 thousand after spm?

if after SPM, then be a car salesman.

"DARK" business lo...

most car salesman depends much on commission

does it have a regular salary for being a car sales man???4000 more

yea. do it underground

dark business is so dangerous lah,coz once you join then you cannot quit doing it.

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Added on March 3, 2007, 9:11 pmany other job is more than 4000 per month?

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Added on March 3, 2007, 9:11 pmany other job is more than 4000 per month??

This post has been edited by ahhongzz: Mar 3 2007, 09:11 PM

if your qualification is spm..i dont think you can earn that much loh..event fresh graduate of degree earn only about 2k+..

one way if you want to earn that much, then start your own business la.

THEN HOW ABOUT AFTER COLLEGE??WHAT JOB CAN HAVE THAT MUCH?

I guess you will have minimal basic. It is all about how many cars you can sell.

i wonder is there any rare job that can give so much of salary but they want you to work very very hard?

Without relevant working experience, no employers will pay you more than $2K even if you have teritary education.

If you need that kind of money, for some reasons, i think the best is to be your own boss. Check out with friends who are involved in direct selling for example.

RM4000 above? well got 3 way lo
1st way, is lucky + experience way you study tinggi tinggi get good cert and get manager type job then you can get that price, but quite long time....

2nd way is SALES, do more sales 365days non stop you can kaya cepat if you can sale more stuff. but you will tired like hell, working time not stable, not everymonth got so high salary, is depend on how many you sale...

3rd way, DARK Business.... this one hahah anytime will kena tangkap naik surat kahbar...


so which one you think suit?

drug dealer, f1 driver, sarkas. all can pay u 4k - 5k after yr spm. serious business.

let me think 1st...........

the 1st way is more safety........

2nd way do not have regular salary

3rd way is very dangerous,so don't want

1st is better than other,but how long????

This post has been edited by ahhongzz: Mar 3 2007, 09:46 PM

wa hahahah, 1st one ah...well study until PHd or soemthing i think need 5 years after SPM , then work from low level till manager level ah...take 10 years, that time you already old kock kock ....

Just google for any Malaysia salary survey or check out some job site that do list salary for each job.

In those job advertisement, they do list their requirement.

Dreamer

so fast? 5 years after SPM can get PHD ??

If you take actuarial science, it is possible to get a such a salary as a fresh graduate if I am not mistaken. Even overseas, actuaries trainees get quite a hight salary.

If you graduate form the world's top universities, you can get more than 5k too.

If you are a very good businessman, you can make million even before you graduate.

This post has been edited by mumeichan: Mar 3 2007, 10:09 PM

5000k a typo right?

1st year Diploma
2nd year Advance Dip
3rd year Degree
4rd year master
5rd year PhD

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Added on March 3, 2007, 10:06 pmWell the truth in this world now is ....

even study high also , when you come to fresh graduate, your salary still gonna start from low low then slowly raise up and up and up.....

Nobody just come out salary will be very very high, kecuali is your father who hire you, or you lucky....

Knock knock, stop dreaming, wake up

This post has been edited by dragonteoh: Mar 3 2007, 10:07 PM

Haha. Typo. 5000k

actually not neccessary, it also depends on luck and the right 'connection'.

personally i think if your parents are able to support you, dont hurry, take your time to look for a job with reasonable pay. say NO to low pay exploitation..

i know lah.
need experience + cert.
actually the 4 or 5 k is very easily achieve after few years experience.
some company in Singapore have bonus at least 6 months per year,the ppl who work in Singapore should know which company
if you don't mind travelling, can try dubai.
last year a company offer me $5k per month in a project at dubai...

5k usd or 5k rm??

i think you can try working at an oil platform.. i heard that they will take post-SPM students and put in training for a few months and then you're off to the platform.. you'll be a roughneck (the guy who does all the tiring and dangerous jobs) and work will be hell, but the pay is handsome..

i got a fren also spm only ... 4 years working and he got rm3.2k just for basic salary in one of the top company ....

it depend much on personal attitude too. must be aggresive n show the leadership quality

While personal attitude is very very important, a good degree from a good university will push your ceiling higher. Maybe if the person above had a good degree, he would be making more money. Many MNCs may not hire you in certain positions without a degree or maybe even a masters.

If ur attitude is all about 'How Much I Earn?' and start being calculative, you won't go too far in your career as employers primarily do not like such calculative behaviour at work.

oil and gas

Oil and gas or Energy sector, eventhough your basic might not be 5k but you will definately earn from the allowance if you are sent offshore for oil and gas and if you at project site overseas for energy sector. As long overseas or offshore for either easily can breach 5k if you know how to save your allowance

haiyo, pasang aircon pun can get that kind of pay la
i just pasang aircon in my house, was charged rm130 per aircon
if u pasang one every day = rm130 x 30 = rm 3900
that is one, if companies pasang more than one, u get more than 4k already
pass form 3 can become aircon serviceman already

Well, there is truth in what you said. If you find a company that treats and pays you well, I think you can talk that way, if you somehow find some companies that exploit their employee then you should change the way you think. Most employers (esp chinese companies) are calculative and will find way to exploit you, that's those, you cannot come late but can go back late. Working on weekend and public holiday are necessary to complete your task but not gonna get OT paid for that.

Not to mention, life is hard and people need to pay bills ... no point to become a manager level if you can't support your own living.

You cannot work forever ... with a the debts on car and house ... you will need to work till you are 55th to finish the loan, and for the rest of the days, you will need to live moderately with no sparks in life.

So all I can say is, You treat me well, I treat you well ...

I always say to the HR, if the company treasures me, there is no point I will leave the company.

Is SGD...
That's why I reject lah. Normally the pay to work in Dubai is in USD.

People who do 3D Animation (Animators) or Advertising, or Programmers or Network Engineer. Earning around this figure as far as I know.

u can easiliy earn 5k as a fresh graduate if you have a petroleum engineering or geophysics degree

But if they hire you for hard labor works in oil rig ... then maybe it's a different story.

Usually company won't overpay their employee by standard. If they do, I believe maybe the job has high turn over rate.

Anything to do with sales..or internet marketing can easily surpass that amount

I believe the TS is looking for basic pay RM5000 job .. I don't think sales and internet marketing will offer such high basic pay ... allowance is not considered as basic salary (unstable) ... else i believe MLM will be higher.

@zeist,
Those in Advertising also earning so much? hMmm.. wanna tell me what they do and where they work? I think I'm in the wrong job...

rm 4,000 ~ rm 5,000?

depends on what you willing to do.

wash plug head

Yea, because I'm in Art & Design course, so my lecturers are working with some advertising companies. They do 3D commercial advertising, or 3D character rendering, alot of work and effort, and the pay is pretty high. Some even more than RM5K.

It's all about skills. I don't really like 3D stuff. Got do alittle but not much, more towards other concept.

Those doing printing such as Brochures, Leaflets, Magazines won't earn much, because they are just printing, if you do real 3D stuff, earn alot ler. That is what my lecturers told me.

Like Graphic Designers they get basic like RM1.2K, if you can do 3D, Basic can get RM2K or even more for a freshman, but depending on portfolios, can do 3D is one thing, how good can you do is another thing.

Gut my lecturers are working as freelancer, he work as a group with others, each project successful, they get around RM10K - RM20K, and then split among the group. Imagine how much they earned, so jealous.

You are currently working as?

This post has been edited by zeist: Mar 4 2007, 11:08 PM

lawyers with 3years experience

If you have a good voice, then go for talented show like malaysian idol.
Who know you might get popular while earning big money

I thought lawyers would make more than that... but maybe that's when they're older/more experienced.

Also don't lawyers make money on a case by case basis? What's their base pay like?

zeist,
I'm a Strategic Communiations Consultant. True there are people who earn lots of money but it also boils down to how good u are. At the end of the day, I think it' simportant for people to be realistic about how much they are able to learn upon graduation.

RM4-5k is a lot of $, honestly!

Communiations??? Communication izzit?

What a Strategic Communications Consultant perform? The job title itself sounds glamour.

Strategic sounds like managerial post. Consultant seems professional.

SAP also not bad, taking a few examples of my colleagues and friends...

Myself in SAP less than 2 years, no previous SAP experience or certification. Started in an end-user environment with around 2.1k, and my new company offers me 3.3k.

Most of my colleagues/friends graduated with SAP cert and is earning 2k++ easily with about a year or more experience. Some is even approaching 3k.

Of course if you're to take the cert, you will be shelling out 20k but I think it's somehow worth it. Just get a good degree to go along with it.

In general SAP has one of the highest average pay considering the amount of effort/time/education to get there. It might not be the best paid, but it is the effort or time to achieve good $$$ that really attracts people to take SAP. Sure, when you are earning huge pay it will not be easy, but which job is?

If I can earn 4k-5k before 30, why not?

bank credit card sales/corporate & personal loan(legal), i heard some top sales can hit 10k per month.

Ya, easier say than done. Look at those credit card promoters in shopping mall. How many of them are successful, and is your skin thick enough to reject so many rejections daily if you were to become one?

One important thing to know when you're trying to go up the ladder and making more money in the process, don't forget the importance of having a supportive boss. If you work for an assh*le who steals your ideas and takes all your credit, run away and work somewhere else.

i got something to add.....
sell pirated dvd and game is that can consider as job ? I mean the boss lah and not the runner.
I saw the boss drive lexus and merc leh.

Work in UK

After convert, should have at least RM4000
Salarty of $600 x 6.9 = RM 4140

@eurekas,
It's illegal so i wouldn't consider it proper to speak about here, nor to advise anyone to even do it.

@Irresistible,
I think we're discussing salaries here in MY, not working abroad and making that conversion rate.

@deadalus,
You caught me there. It was a spelling mistake and ur right, it's just a glamourous title that's all - i basically do everything around here, other than washing the toilet *phew*

If your qualifications are just until SPM then I guess maybe a career in sales might be the way to earn RM4-5k or more. There are several areas of sales you can be involved in other than those "Dark methods". Areas such as direct selling (a couple of articles has emerged in the Star newspapers a while back), insurance selling (working for an agency or be the lone ranger type) or maybe sell unit trusts as well.

If you are willing to put in hardwork and be patient, it is possible to earn 4 - 5 k by 24 years old. Currently I'm earning in that range. Started off with as a junior programmer in the first year with 1.5k.

easy, bukak gerai jual makan. i seen a stall food seller in Ming tien bandar sunway drives a toyota celica O.o".

maybe in oil and gas industry....coz i work with oil drilling company.
with spm....maybe as operator only but you still have a chance to climb up further.
diploma....some company may start at almost rm4k.
degree holder....unlimited i have friend who only has 3 years experience and his current salary....rm 1.3k per day and he is still looking for better deal.
the best time for you to join this industry is after you graduate from colloge or uni.
working schedule....depend on company some company has fixed schedule
eg. 1month offshore and 1 month off.....good time off deal
some company, no fixed schedule ......and normally comes with good pay good
so if you have diploma or degree in petroleum, chemical,mechnical or electrical, you will have a better chance.....with some good english.
most of the engineer(young one and below 30 yrs old) earn more than rm 10k.
anybody intrested pm me for further details.

Just a thought...

If someone offered u RM6k to be a data-entry clerk what would your first thoughts be?

Let's see. Besides those in marketing (MLM,insurance,credit card,wealth product etc).

The rest whom I know are paid in the region of RM4-5k are either professionals or managerial post (supervisor & above).

Above applies to employees.

Anyway, if you're doing own business, RM4-5k is a relatively small pie only.



This post has been edited by scorgio: Mar 6 2007, 05:45 PM

@scorgio,
That's exactly the point. Fresh graduates are hoping to earn RM4-5k p/month these days. It never cease to amaze me why people say it's hard to find a job out there - look at the newspapers.. it's thicker than ever (Ok, that's not true!) but the truth to the whole fact is our graduates today are just way too picky!

RM4-5k to lose in a business is relatively small - depending again on what kinda outfit u run...

If I sell nasi lemak from a tableside at a parking lot somewhere, RM4-5k is pretty huge loss

You can't blame people for wanting to make more money, given the rising cost of living nowadays. It's the get rich quick without working thing that bothers me. If you're good enough to earn RM4-5k per month upon graduation, you probably won't be on LYN asking forumers what to do You'll be hard at work earning that salary (or building your business).

It is possible to make a lot of money out there but not if you're lazy or if you don't work. Inspirational story of the day I know a person who started out earning 1k plus at graduation (with an engineering degree!) but he worked hard, did masters part time, etc and was earning a USD six figure annual salary before he was 30 and no, he's not working in the oil & gas field

@tishaban,
I don't blame people for wanting to make more $ but do it properly - don't expect $ to drop on u....Like u said, if u don't put in the work in the beginning, there'll be nothing for you to reap at the end of the day... obviously it's also important to differentiate the thinkers from the doers and generally, the thinkers would earn more.

HmMm.. I must be doing something *not too right*.. I worked hard, served well and did study part time too but how come I'm not earning a USD six figure annual salary yet?! Gosh, I'm not even earning MY six figure annual salary?! Damn... I think I need u to introduce ur friend to me.... can?

Then again, we need to compare Apple with Apple .... It doesn't count if ur friend worked in the USA then.

This post has been edited by tinkerbel: Mar 6 2007, 06:46 PM

if you have a good degree and good communication skill try to apply Shell or Schlumberger. They will give you a pretty high salary of about 4-5K. However you will need to work offshore and end up with no time to spend all the money you earned. So no pain no gain!

bluesky007,
I think there are much more to life than just high salary

Yeah.
My friend willing to give up her AUD 6k salary & come back to M'sia.
Now doing compulsory govt service for around RM2.5k a month.
She's a pharmacist btw.

4-5k only....more than that laa.i work with oil drilling company and right know still on board doing some exploration work.schlumberger....MAYBE yes, coz i have 2 guys who quit the job since there is no work schedule.....other than that no complaint coz the money is good.shell, no comment coz i don't know about production platform(i believe they have fixed schedule like 14days on/14 days off).so if anybody still want to go offshore ask yourself....and think again...
are you willing to be away with your love ones for some times.my case... i work for 28 days and has time off for 28 days.for me a good deal, coz during my offdays i'm free to do anything....no need to go to office. i really have good time to spend with my wife and son.
some have fixed schedule and some don't.we don't sign any contract and my contract is based on "at will"....work until you don't want to work anymore.
for those who pm me..thanks for your interest and let check my "contact" first.
"contact" for further info only... not to get you into the job.multinational company maa not like "mesti ada saudara" company.
anyone who interested use google and check for:
halliburton
schlumberger
bjservices
miswaco
bakerhuges
transocean deepwater
premium drilling
sea drill
petrominwork
rigzone (u will find my company overhere)
diamond offshore
rigworker
send cv first, wait for reply.got reply, and need more info pm me.this one applicable to fresh grads and those who never been offshore.
as i mentioned before, those with electrical/electronic, mechanical, chemical
nautical studies, petroluem (diploma or degree) will have BETTER chance.
hope this helps.

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This post has been edited by eurekas: Mar 7 2007, 12:15 PM

4-5k is possible by working as a cabin crew.

As a start, this is wat u could expect.

MAS - RM3-3.5k
AirAsia - RM4k
SIA (based in Singapore) - RM7.5k
Emirates (based in Dubai) - RM9-10k
Qatar Airways (based in Doha) - RM7k

Try asking your boss for a pay rise

I did and my salary increased from RM 6000 to RM 19000

excuse? bad USD exchange rate.....3.50

@Logan,
RM6k to RM19k? That's more than 300% increment. Unless u brought in that much of profits into the office, I don't see how 'bad USD exchange rate' was able to get u such an increment. What is it that u do btw?

Er.. I'm also assuming we're talking about monthly salary figures here *grins*

rare and no need much work?
Sell coffin. Grooming. Paper money etc etc..

wow...brother....
what you do for living ?
one month can earn RM19000 ?
can teach us or not ?

yeah tell us...u can earn rm 19000 .. so much ...
i have a shock la....can i know what u work as huh ?
just curious ler.

must be offshore ler ... what else ......

be pilot lor ...XD

"The keyboard will snap your finger into 5 parts after 1 month working."

or a simpler thought

"Bullshit"

The risk is there.

Only when you are in US.

hoho..
ur mentality is not right..companies will pay u if ure good and experienced..get some by working..u cannot get a job with such pay if u don't have proper education..my advice is..if u dont want to further ur studies then venture into business (legal one laa..)..work ur way up...its hard and thats a fact..life is not easy especially when ure entering adulthood..peace!!

most of the jobs can bring you 4-5k salary, you just have to work for it.

4k - 5k per month? Caaannn.... Join Amway... Herbalife... or even better, sell Lamp Berger... 40k also can la...

Work @ Singapore will get a decent amount of salary After exchange currency back to RM of course

if currency basis, uk ...waaah...
but can u save the money or not....????

rm4-5 k - go gamble 4D...

i'm working with oil and gas company, fresh graduate and first job, salary+allowance-tax-EPF, net is 5k. EPF (employee+yer) monthly 1.5k

With that price I belief you're like an offshore guy.. serious work but one thing.. no life.. No handphones allowed..

But I would suggest the threadstarter to tell us his strength and we can say something from there...

If you're good at talking then go and do sales..

if quiet difficult to get 4 k to 5k in a month for a fresh grad or junior executive, unless you got other part time job like doing MLM lo, but MLM also very difficult to do..

otherwise, search for apportunity in other country lo...singapore would be a good choice..

This post has been edited by jackypeh: Mar 14 2007, 12:07 PM

What's MLM?

multi level marketing, something like direct sales

man.. i think the "luck" element kicks in sometimes... for example, you are a heck of a committed guy in work, with a boss who appreciates it and also can afford to pay for it.

i consider myself lucky for earning 4k basic in a span of 2.5yrs working exp. one thing real - no pain no gain. That includes yr health sometimes.

i'm in a telecommunication line.
used to go up oil and gas platform every now and then.

Work very closely with this company called Schlumberger (not the LB direct selling kind a shit).

Know some riggers working inside which earning minimum 5-6k per month only with their basic.

Some more their allowance is like a rocket flying income.

BUT all come back in square-one,
- Will you willing to push yourself hard enough to reach there??

can u tell more bout Schlumberger

not much about their NoB.
but i work closely with their telecommunication department personal.
@dark_tern
FYI
i'm not pure oil and gas field.
thanks

No offshore. Office in Menara Citibank. Everyday surf net. Work very easy until now coz fresh graduate. Every night go home dota. lol.

hey, where u got that job? so good ? can recommend me ? thanks

unholy,
Stop getting these people all red-eyed. And, get back to work now or else... I'm gonna get HR to shoot u a Warning Letter !!!