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post Apr 30 2017, 05:22 PM

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what is the minimum years of working to try to get a PR?

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If I were to print the Form 4A, can I print it double sided? or should it be single sided? Does it matter?

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post Apr 30 2017, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Apr 30 2017, 05:51 PM)
nobody know, i will say, just register to put the appointment of the PR ASAP. laugh.gif
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ok thx and what about the printed form? single side or double side? does it matter?

if lets say a person fail to get his PR approve first round, how many months or year later can he then try again?
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post Apr 30 2017, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Apr 30 2017, 06:09 PM)
better go for single sided, i remember cooling period is 6 month
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ahhh thx thx

I will do the read up before I apply for the e-appointment
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post Apr 30 2017, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Apr 30 2017, 10:03 PM)
Hearsay is that, apply after you paid your first income tax.
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thx for this good hearsay

meaning I have to wait for another year afterall only been in sg for almost a year now and seem like I didn't get tax last yr
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post May 1 2017, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(KilJim @ May 1 2017, 09:59 AM)
Right after the first few income tax payment worked for me too
Remember you need to book your appointment at least 6 months ahead, so do some planning

As for your other question on printed double sided or single sided, always choose the safer choice when dealing with SG gov, they can be quite anal about certain things
In this case, go for single sided
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Thx! crystal clear thumbsup.gif
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post May 1 2017, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(WallChecker @ May 1 2017, 03:41 PM)
There is no minimum but at least 6 months and above as one of required doc is 6 months payslip. From what I heard, Malaysian have higher chance of getting PR compared to other countries as our culture, language, etc are almost the same which is an advantage to assimilate and localise to SG.
Print one side, it does matter. Formal doc should not be in two sided, exception e.g. appendix, glossary etc.
For myself, I submitted few months ago and not even close to one year in SG, result is still pending so can't say its right choice but good luck to me. Haha.
I don't think it works this way. Unless your YE2016 income is less than SGD22k? Otherwise, its mandatory to file your tax return. I saw u mentioned u worked almost a year in SG, assuming 9 months x 2.5k = 22.5k.
Nevertheless, suggest u to read up SG tax and at least basic knowledge, it doesn't work the same as MY tax except the progressive part.
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well I done all those SingPass sign-up and etc. To date, not receive anything from company or them after validating my sms notification

during that period, my gross income definitely higher than 22k but no indication that I am tax. strange...

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post May 1 2017, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(WallChecker @ May 1 2017, 03:41 PM)
There is no minimum but at least 6 months and above as one of required doc is 6 months payslip. From what I heard, Malaysian have higher chance of getting PR compared to other countries as our culture, language, etc are almost the same which is an advantage to assimilate and localise to SG.
Print one side, it does matter. Formal doc should not be in two sided, exception e.g. appendix, glossary etc.
For myself, I submitted few months ago and not even close to one year in SG, result is still pending so can't say its right choice but good luck to me. Haha.
I don't think it works this way. Unless your YE2016 income is less than SGD22k? Otherwise, its mandatory to file your tax return. I saw u mentioned u worked almost a year in SG, assuming 9 months x 2.5k = 22.5k.
Nevertheless, suggest u to read up SG tax and at least basic knowledge, it doesn't work the same as MY tax except the progressive part.
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ May 1 2017, 03:56 PM)
Singapore does not have a monthly deduction. (though u can set up giro to do sth to that effect)
Tax is paid yearly on a preceding year basis. (ie whatever u pay now is for last years income)
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I just login to SingPass and just link it with my mobile.

Done that which I was suppose to do last couple of weeks but forgetten after registering for 2FA.

I log into IRAS using my SingPass.

Check my tax status. "No Filing Services" for Assessment Year of 2017. I wonder where is 2016 year...

check through INDIVIDUAL tab.

"You are not required to file your current year Income Tax Return.

Your Notice of Assessment for Year of Assessment 2017 will be sent to you based on the income information transmitted to IRAS by your employer and your relief claims for last year, if any.

Generally, most taxpayers should receive their Notice of Assessment by September."


anyway, yea I would do a giro auto deduction if possible. paying tax for the whole year can be rather painful...eventho sg tax is much lower if im not mistaken as compare to msia.
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post May 1 2017, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(WallChecker @ May 1 2017, 04:10 PM)
Then u are definitely tax payer this year. Perhaps u should find out more from your friends, or colleagues or HR on this matter. U need to find out is your company under auto-inclusion scheme and are u on no-filling service. If u are on no-filling service, then no action is require until u receive notification of assessment. U will know how much payable tax for last year that time.
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well if that is the case, I will only apply for PR next yr then after paying my tax laugh.gif

feel like the company is paying me 17% less which is alot if I am not a PR!
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post May 1 2017, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(WallChecker @ May 1 2017, 04:19 PM)
That is correct. Assessment Year of 2017 refers to 2016 tax assessment, in MY we called is EA Form 2016.
Read this one u will have your questions answered: https://www.iras.gov.sg/irashome/Individual...-Your-Tax-Bill/
What I mean is that u will start pay tax this year, for 2016 income assessment. NOA will come to u anytime now till Sept.
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thx for the details and info

gonna sign up for GIRO

once that is done, wait for the NOA.

got that, I can apply for PR

thinking that my company is paying me less 17% is causing me some discomfort LOL

or rather, looking forward to that "17% increment" brows.gif
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post May 1 2017, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ May 1 2017, 07:55 PM)
You sure about this??

Correction:

looking forward to that "20% deduction"
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yes also 20% deduction of my gross income. but isn't that for my retirement? is a good thing too plus the CPF can be use to finance HDB.

getting that extra 17% for your CPF is good

it depends on how you look at it.

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post May 1 2017, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(silverwave @ May 1 2017, 09:16 PM)
Hi, what should be the salary range for product development engineer with 8 years experience at SG? SGD5k? My next level in my career path is a manager.

Also, i can't remember if it's PR or citizenship, which one is the one that we need to let go of our properties in Malaysia?

Thanks.
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from what I heard, if you want to get a HDB in singapore, u need to let go of your properties in Malaysia since afterall HDB is government public housing for ppl. Unless if u buy condo in singapore, then no need to let go of your properties
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post May 1 2017, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(WallChecker @ May 1 2017, 09:44 PM)
+1
Haha, in other word, 20% deduction of gross income. In long-run and to retire in SG is okay, but not so long-run may be headache too when it comes to leaving and want to withdraw the money. At least, may not be an issue for IwanAGP  biggrin.gif
U can check salary range via Glassdoor etc. Personally I think range is quite huge when it comes to skillset and expertise u have. If u are "top top" SGD5k is quite low for 8 years of experience. How much do u earn in MYR?

I believe its both, because of eligibility to own HDB.
http://www.hdb.gov.sg/cs/infoweb/residenti...ibility-schemes
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from what I heard, if you are willing to let go off your PR status, then you can withdraw all your CPF amount which applies to Peninsula ppl.

Sabahan Sarawakians have different condition as compare to Peninsula ppl

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post May 1 2017, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 1 2017, 11:18 PM)
You got it the other way round. Sabah Sarawakian allow full withdrawal of CPF. West Malaysian must wait til 50 yo
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Oh is it? even after letting go off my PR? i still have to wait until 50yo?

I do know that Sabah and Sarawakians can withdraw in full but I tot they dun have to let go PR and still able to withdraw lumpsum

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post May 2 2017, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(WallChecker @ May 2 2017, 10:24 PM)
Everyday after work back home and check, before bed mid-night check again the slot. Some said system will release those cancellation during mid-night time (No idea how true is this, mine wasn't mid-night but weekend). When they release new slot will be 6 months forward. Otherwise, get ready docs and wait people cancel and got release and u get u slot by skipping all those queues. What I did is "check every single day" and refresh whenever got time.
Yes, it really depends - Some people need "cash" right now than retire plan, not everyone the same. Some has medical expenses to cover for family, kid's education etc. Not everyone earn decent money after deducting their necessities, like housing loan back in MY for family etc.
What knwong said is true. U got it the other way.
https://www.cpf.gov.sg/Members/Schemes/sche...n-other-grounds
I agree on "most" people plan to stay in SG permanently, but not everyone walk that path to the end. Some people just have families to take care or commitment that they need to leave SG and their plan behind.
There are people that plan to retire elsewhere, due to family and alternative retirement plan as well.
I am not an expert, but an illustration, one uncle retired and got big sum of money in CPF at 60 years old, assuming he can lived up to 80 years old. He need to have at least 20 years of cost of living (with inflation year on year) and medical expenses (SG is rated world's top medical and expensive medical fees of course). The cost of living will be totally different after 60 years forward, hence they have no choice but to work part-time. Govt said "U don't work, u get sick and u got nothing to do, and got no money", so go to work. So, SG have Re-employment act, incentives for employing senior workers etc.
Assuming u can withdraw it in full, with FX to MYR. U can easily use the money to buy a landed house with 20 years of maid service, plus medical fees in suburban area.
Nevertheless, its my long personal view, does not mean that I plan to retire in MY, of course I would prefer retire and settle down in SG  biggrin.gif
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so from the link above

WEST MALAYSIANS only can withdraw in full at age above 50yo to 55yo and no more a PR
as for
EAST MALAYSIANS or any other FOREIGN COUNTRY, they have the liberty of withdrawing in full with no intentions of returning for work and residence, meaning no more PR

kesian west malaysians... console.gif

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post Jul 6 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(samtbt38 @ Jul 5 2017, 01:10 PM)
i dont plan to work in SG for long, maybe two years at most, just want to save up money, not plan to settle there

thank you, i agree SG is abit better, not bc they prefer chinese but they dont mind my broken engrish, bc i'm malay

yes another reason to come there, IT sector is more booming
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i dunno y ppl say sg expenses expensive

i assume that fella never work in KL before

notice my friends who never work in msia, would not see how good working in sg is...

u can save alot of money in SG

i save more money here compare than I did working in KL

the disposal income here is high

welcome to singapore, it is very safe here, u might even extend ur stay here too bcuz of the disposal income plus the quality of life u can get whilst sacrificing bigger housing to hdb which for my case is acceptable
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post Jul 6 2017, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Jul 6 2017, 11:15 AM)
Yes agree....you can save alot of money, and the SG dollar spending power is there against other currenceis(USD/NZD/AUD/HKG/NTW/RMB etc etc),  every SG$1 saved == MYR3.x +/-
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had korean BBQ buffet (the good ones at this street nearby chinatown) and later went for some happy hour beer at clarke quay

cost me SGD40 max only!

if u eat those korean BBQ buffet and go to pub for happy hour beer in kl, u need to prepare at least RM70
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post Jul 6 2017, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Jul 6 2017, 11:39 AM)
Wait till you start a family with a house and car, medical and hospital bills, school fees and misc, every month overdraft. If so good the locals won't complain here and there.
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u work in kl before?

u want ask local singkie? LOL they never work in KL before they dun know

ppl are never satisfied, they always want a better life

it is known that singapore has higher disposable income

i know a senior who once work in KL before but now settle back to singapore. he say KL is expensive

he is able to lead a better quality of life in singapore here

and yes, his kids later grew up in sg and now one in poli and another in secondary school

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post Jul 6 2017, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jul 6 2017, 01:01 PM)
Singapore the best, majulah singapura. May sgd become 4x of myr soon
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hnnnggggghhhhh


QUOTE(reanimation_84 @ Jul 6 2017, 01:07 PM)
I am working in KL and been posted in Sg for the past few months. I couldnt agree more with your statement. The cost of living in KL is much higher than that in Sg. I manage to save more in Sg than compared to KL.
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true, only ppl who work in msia especially KL will see the difference and appreciate it
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post Jul 6 2017, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jul 6 2017, 01:17 PM)
If only i make sgd income in kl wud be perfect. XD

Family and friends are in KL. Sg just a place to work.
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my company have another branch in KL

ayam so tempted... drool.gif

I got one fren in singapore who got himself a new job. the job pays him SGD while he has to relocate to KL brows.gif

ayam jelly
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post Jul 6 2017, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(kayweng @ Jul 6 2017, 01:25 PM)
I had worked in KL before and working in SG now. I still feel SG expenses is expensive but it depends on your lifestyle in SG, you can either enjoy life in SG or save $$ in SG. I do not ever think I'm good because of earn SG and convert to MYR. I should earn a lot $$ in Malaysia rather than earn SGD after currency conversion.
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ok what lifestyle?

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