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 Working in Singapore V20, All About Living in The Little Red Dot

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Fiona Chin
post Mar 11 2019, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Mar 11 2019, 11:17 AM)
most ppl change their mind after coming to singapore. its safe, its advanced, things are efficient, its rich, things work well, education is "good" too. if u want a life of the good things, its not bad. travel to nice countries like jap or aussie is easy peasy, and affordable for singkies. in some cases, its even cheaper to eat jap food in japan than in singapore!

99% of my friends are staying, and i am happy for them. they have a reasonable career, bought a condo, maybe might get a car...  so, actually, its not bad. i totally understand if u choose the efficiency and safety of SG, to the chaos of KL/PJ.
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I went back leh. Can't make it in SG. With me jobless, single income can't support a family of 6 in SG. Living on savings and parents' subsidies. The kids getting too comfortable in SG but need 2 income to maintain that lifestyle, so fed up need to keep working. Came back to MY, single income can support the whole family leh rclxm9.gif .
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post May 28 2019, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Nicholas Kang @ May 28 2019, 09:06 AM)
Also, I forgot to mention about the MM2H programme.

That will serve as my last choice, when both my partner and I have to give up our citizenship and move back to Malaysia under the MM2H programme.

Not sure if anyone have planned or has successfully applied for this programme.

I am only concerned with the need to renew the application every 10 years. My take is they should lengthen the valid period from 10 to 20 years.

Any thoughts on this programme?
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Too much info with google nowadays and people do more than what they used to do and raise the bar. End up a highly competitive and stressful life. At 20 i was only thinking of studying, what to cook for dinner and what to wear for the date wub.gif . End up in finance corporate ladder, then now full time mum. Only do planning on what to cook for the day for the kids and the man. Simple life is good. Let fate do their work.
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post Jun 23 2019, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Financier @ Jun 21 2019, 12:11 PM)
You've done it before? How was the day-to-day like selling bank products? Do you cold cold clients and meet  them? Im scared as I got no network in Singapore, nor have I have any experience selling. Is best if client come to me, not I go and chase them haha if youre pretty can still sell due to sex appeal.  If face problem like me confirm gg

I'll be posted to any of the branch nationwide in Singapore.
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Walao u think warren buffett meh client come to u. If money walk in themselves to bank need sales for what. SOP stand at MRT stations wearing tight pants lo for guys.
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post Sep 17 2019, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(KilJim @ Sep 17 2019, 02:20 AM)
When ppl say insurance they usually refer to health or life insurance...
But investment linked also I'm sure you can purchase without being employed locally. If you stop paying you just lose your policy or be forced to redeem early with a heavy penalty. They're even happier

House loan is entirely different. As the name suggests, it's a loan...not an investment/insurance policy
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Need income proof to prevent money laundering la. Insurance payout is clean money. What go into need to show its clean also. Those people buy few million policy, cancel half way, clean money come out.
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post Sep 17 2019, 04:52 PM

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Me also me also. Want to raise my kids in Malaysia. Want let them go through hardship, too comfortable in SG. Dumb kids can't compete with all the FT's elite gene. Happy childhood without book stress more important.
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post Sep 25 2019, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(danieltan @ Sep 25 2019, 10:15 AM)
Anyone know what happen if quit to be PR and does anyone able collect all money from CPF. I heard from my fren of fren he failed to get certain amount.
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EM can withdraw as soon as give up PR, no question asked rclxm9.gif . After withdraw go MBS free entrance big small few rounds can retire at young age laugh.gif .
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post Sep 30 2019, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 30 2019, 08:02 AM)
Wife chose 的 obgyn based in Thomson, so Thomson it was 😂 csec instead of natural cos of some reasons. 5.5k medisave, rest credit card. Single Premier (non suite) room cos shared room husband need to gtfo at 8pm.

Of course if you normal delivery no complications at kkh then it's much cheaper, if I'm not mistaken around 4-5k.
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1st one sure gan chiong pick the best wife like. Man just few minutes then woman 10 months leh plus forever take care the kids. Well worth one the money. Your salary one day can earn back liao la 20k.
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post Oct 7 2019, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Frank3 @ Oct 6 2019, 09:56 PM)
May i know why some of our fellow Malaysian convert to SG Citizen?
Is it because of cheaper HDB, child education, medical fees, extra leaves etc...?
Currently i am SPR, although all these benefits is quite significant but my gut feeling told me do not convert into SG Citizen.

If any of you in this forum never ever intent to become SG citizen especially those have children/family here, may i know the reason as well?
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Want to give my kids the option to choose themselves especially the sons need to serve NS if they are SG citizen. So far they prefer MY cause more cousins to play with and the grandparents pampered them at home.

Besides those benefit that are mentioned, which are mostly related how much money saved, its hard to get approval to buy landed properties if not citizen, no way to own a GCB, normal landed still possible but a lot of ding dong to go through, and the house can't be rented out if non-citizen. Once a while they will send letters to remind you to sell the house as you are not in SG anymore, please don't hoard our land bye.gif .
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post Oct 7 2019, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Oct 7 2019, 10:53 AM)
sons of PR being PR already need to serve NS
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PR's sons can don't apply PR under parents, apply as 1st generation after they grow up to be FT, but make sure don't leach SG's benefit when he growing up. That's what my parents do la, brother never come SG study, only apply his own PR after got his pampers degree. Sis apply PR under parents study JC here laugh.gif . Me as PR study degree here cheap cheap but no need serve NS brows.gif . Son kick far away from SG, later they send invitation letter to ask son apply PR before 18.
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post Nov 12 2019, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(FollowMeRogerThat @ Nov 12 2019, 02:34 PM)
Thanks.

May I just check if you did the application in person or through online?

Not sure what happened but I did mine online recently and got rejected within hours.

I then went to branch on one of my recent off day to submit again and still got rejected within a few days, even though I meet the minimum pay required (after conversion)  rclxub.gif
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Consider as high risk run road category coz you not working in Malaysia, want send debt collector find you also hard, so bank will have higher chance to reject. Not so much on your salary. Take a housing loan that come together with a credit card.
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post Nov 28 2019, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(KenjiXsin @ Nov 28 2019, 02:19 PM)
Ya, he still working at that time. Yes, I know renew rep, but failed to renew it because he rejected PR.
And then I hear that he received letter say his PR get revoked and need to apply EP for working purposes...
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Maybe your friend did something behind that make him in the outgoing list. I got the letter before, no reply, still PR.
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post Dec 18 2019, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(ninachuu @ Dec 17 2019, 08:42 PM)
Hi there, a new fellow Malaysian working in SG soon.

Just wondering for those coming from Sabah and Sarawak that are currently in SG, what kind of race would you be categories as once in SG? Mine was changed into Malay for some odd reasons despite that I'm dusun.
And would there be discrimination for holding a work permit compared to the Spass and Epass in terms of room hunting and opening a bank account?
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I put mine under others and write Kadazan. My siblings and mum too. Malay from Malaysia equal Muslim, next time you cannot eat pork and arak already. If puasa period you eat and got question then IC show Malay you kena la. You fill yourself or the officer fill for you? Go tell them filled wrongly. If they fill it in tell the customer feedback department their officer got discrimination.
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post Dec 18 2019, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(ninachuu @ Dec 18 2019, 02:40 PM)
Ohh okaay. But I'm Dusun and Muslim. Yeah my employer was the one who filled it in for me. Is it possible they wrote Malay because I'm muslim?
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Ask your boss or the hr go read more books and don't generalize, maybe he still think you live on trees too.
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post Dec 23 2019, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 18 2019, 04:41 PM)
Oh but I thought kadazan dusun murut bajau all memang still live in trees and all day long just aramaiti and play sompoton only?
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This only is life ma. Day day work and pay bills where got life.
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post Jan 2 2020, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 1 2020, 12:24 PM)
Match? Cannot match la. about 60-65% of my SGD pay when converted to MYR.
I've been in Singapore for 7 years (my wife 8 yers).

But that's solely looking at salary la.

The principle is simple :  Use the savings to 'close' the 30-40% gap.

Say annual salary is SGD60k (combined SGD120k), and we save about 40k per annum (combined).
After 7 years, we have about SGD280k.

If buy a condo in Singapore, for a family, at least SGD1m,, of which SGD350k (MYR1,050k) down, of which 300k is for dp/loan etc, 50k for reno and stuff.
If we buy a landed dst, for a family, MYR1m, of which MYR300k down (100k dp, 200k reno/furniture).

So, the cost difference is SGD250k, or MYR750k. (+/-)

Say if I get a salary of 1:2, so my MYR salary will be MYR120k (combined MYR240k).
Then, the MYR750k x 6% = MYR45k.

Combined = MYR285k versus SGD120k (MYR360k), which is about 78-80% of SGD salary. If we can get above 70% of SGD pay (but converted) will be very comfortable d, and won't be that far off vs singaporeans.  We also plan to leave the SGD we saved in Singapore REITs so we have SGD denominated recurring income to support our lifestyle in Malaysia smile.gif
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So nice can find so high paying job at home. I come back no job be housewife eat savings from SG. When the kids bigger a bit then not enough already. So expensive feeding them and giving them education. Where is wawasan 2020 as promised cry.gif .
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post Jan 14 2020, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(ComputerIdiot @ Jan 14 2020, 03:44 PM)
Hi all sifus
Chinese new year is coming. I wanna transfer big amount of SGD back to my Malaysia bank account.

I found Singx is convenient but the rate is not good and need to charge about 4X dollar for 10k SGD.
My friend recommending me boon lay (Dollar Exchange pte Ltd) they charge 10SGD per transfer (Same like singx but they charge only 10SGD regardless the amount I think) and the rate is the best among other currency exchange .

Would like to know how you guys transfer SGD back to Malaysia bank account ? Please share ya.

I wanna find the best way (high rate and convenient way)

Thanks all please share.
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Hand carry cheapest. How much jek?
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(ComputerIdiot @ Jan 14 2020, 04:43 PM)
What you talking ? Hand carry ? Where to exchange the sgd for MYR ?

I am asking where to change... better it ll help transfer back to Malaysia bank account. The one I mention give best rate and charge 10 sgd only per transaction and funds ll be transferred into my msia.bank acc in 3 working days
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Stay too long in SG think Malaysia still live on trees dy? No money exchange meh your hometown. I live here on trees still have money exchange around. Sorry lo I only can afford bring back few hundreds dollar give parents for cny last time so never use all these high tech transfer, not like high ses can bring back big sum. How big jek so gan chiong? 3 working days the 2nd working day they go bankrupt then you die lo. Money in own pocket best.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 30 2020, 09:38 AM)
Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. But lately many friends who are sending their children overseas have been telling me otherwise n my spouse is worried. Anyway UTM a university ranked 85 in QS ranking(Engineering) should not be too bad.

QS ranking by ENGINEEERING & TECHNOLOGY:

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Just asked my other half doing engineering. He say he prefer UTM over Monash. UTM has a good reputation in civil engineering in his mind but not Monash, other engineering not sure. Overall he prefer government uni than private uni cause private uni got financial barrier which not mainly based on student's merit but parents' bank merit. But that is him la, not all company think the same way. Some HR will filter out lesser known uni then your friend jialat.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 30 2020, 10:39 AM)
Thanks for taking the trouble to ask your partner. Hope I am making the right decision cos for foreign study I can only afford either undergrad or postgrad but not both.
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Provide education until undergrad enough already la. Postgrad ask them pay themselves. SG a lot of people taking part time post grad at local uni, myself included. Don't make higher education like parents' responsibility and taken for granted by the kids. This kind go uni waste your money one. I thought my parents poor fag, so study hard get scholarship then free education since secondary laugh.gif .

QUOTE(sawyeratjx @ Jan 30 2020, 01:20 PM)
UTAR grad of chemical engineering working in automation field.

No point thinking about sunrise or sunset. I joined ChemE when the oil industry was booming and in a few years it all went to shit. EEE is a very diverse field, no worries.

If you have the money, then send him overseas lo. But if they are not higher ranking compared to NUS/NTU basically no point.
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NUS and NTU near world top 10 already. Those uni better than them need money many many on top of good results. Actually from my secondary school, many of the good students can't afford go overseas choose to go SG. Last time ah gong time is good, they have many scholarships and bursaries for FT, he got say before financial burden should not be a hinder to education, until the locals make noise then slowly become the state now.
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post Feb 17 2020, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(peramdupe @ Feb 16 2020, 05:00 PM)
Mind sharing why do you prefer the 15k? I felt this way before, but now I got a feeling that I'm stagnating. Talk to few senior friends and they said its normal to be stagnant in our 30s. Some start side business, freelance and all that. Call it mid-career crisis but I'm not sure what to do career-wise for the next 5 years.
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Depends on when you start to realise that salary will always not high enough even though you reach have 50k, 100k, there will be higher one out there to get, and stagnation will come out eventually. After getting condo, then landed, then good class bungalow etc etc, always wasting life to achieve something related to money. Our combined household income in SG around top 10%, now back in MY with me as stay home mum, become M40 and can apply for free mysalam insurance, hidup gahmen. But both of us have more time to do things we like and no regret coming back. People here off work at 5 on the dot, 530 I see him at home play with the kids already. So much better than the 10pm 12am only reach home at SG. If you work at SG and stay at JB, say goodbye to your kid's growing up time lo. Later you reach home at 12am your kid ask your wife who is the uncle always come and stay at our home then leave early in the morning laugh.gif .

With you supporting the family alone and high expenditure at SG, stressful and risky... Imagine you get retrenched at 40s, cause drawing high salary, and other office politic issue... and before that you take up 30 years loan buy house buy car, wah lao, got time die no time sick. High risk high return though laugh.gif .

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