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post Mar 3 2007, 06:43 PM, updated 19y ago

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HEy i just came back from 'the guitar store' in sri hartamas and i saw this Godin guitar tht was just sweet..it had tremelo , S-S-H pickups , LP like body but with strat head...for rm1800 ... is it good?

at first i wanted to get sx but the guy said may need to change the fret thing every 3 years or something like tht...

so i tought ok...epiphone then...but the guy said epiphone now made in china and quality dropped

so now im not sure what to get...

I need to have

-H-S-H pickups or those humbuckers tht look like 2 single coil side by side ... rclxub.gif
-5-way selector switch
-LP like body


is Godin guitars good?


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post Mar 3 2007, 07:45 PM

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usually LP has H-H instead of H-S-H or H-S-S
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post Mar 3 2007, 07:56 PM

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LP guitars don't have 5 way switches.

And do you REALLY need a 5 way switch?

My best 3 guitars are all 3 way toggles.....

hmm........ but I AM tempted to go for Mark Morton's signature Dominator guitar.....individual coil-tapped humbuckers..... YUM!
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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Mar 3 2007, 06:43 PM)
is Godin guitars good?
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Yeah, Godin guitars are pretty good & you shouldn't go wrong with them. So far, haven't heard any complaints from their users... yet. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 3 2007, 09:59 PM

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5 way switch will give u more tone variety...my friend have a godin guitar, and i think the guitar your talking about is the one my friend use...not bad...
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post Mar 3 2007, 10:33 PM

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cheaper godin guitars usually have bodies made from poplar.
ie. same material as the older fender mexican models.
now fender mexican are using traditional alder like US.

so basically you're just paying more for its 'assembled in the US tag'.
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post Mar 3 2007, 10:55 PM

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well im not really sure ...cos the guy say when strumming on humbuckers its very heavy so its not nice ....then he say can switch the humbucker to single coil

humbuckers like this can switch to use single coil.... hmm.gif
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and humbuckers like this cannot rclxub.gif

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i know LP doesnt have H-S-H and S-S-H... just saying i want something tht looks like LP

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post Mar 3 2007, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Mar 3 2007, 10:55 PM)
well im not really sure ...cos the guy say when strumming on humbuckers its very heavy so its not nice ....then he say can switch the humbucker to single coil

humbuckers like this can switch to use single coil.... hmm.gif
(......)
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and humbuckers like this cannot rclxub.gif
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the guy in guitar store said that?
he needs to get smacked.
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:05 PM

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well he dint say it wasnt nice... he just said tht can change to single coil so tht not so heavy and got more variety...


Added on March 3, 2007, 11:06 pmis tht true?

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post Mar 3 2007, 11:11 PM

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Where's this shop?
The LYN gang should just have a gathering there and make the guy cry with all the questions we ask.
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Mar 3 2007, 11:05 PM)
well he dint say it wasnt nice... he just said tht can change to single coil so tht not so heavy and got more variety...


Added on March 3, 2007, 11:06 pmis tht true?
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any humbucker with 4 conductor wires, 2 for each coil, can be changed to single coil.
just cos a humbucker looks like 2 singlecoils side by side, doesnt mean it can be changed to single.

again, he needs to get smacked.
i hate to say this, but hes a stupid noob.
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:17 PM

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okok....

so do you guys know any good guitar

tht looks like LP( dont have to be exact)
H-H or H-S-H pickups
and can coil tap
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:20 PM

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Another Noob......
The guy in Yamaha Curve.....
I told him I wanted an all-tube amp.

He says "Yeah! Come here bro! GOt this damn chun wan!"

Guess what? Solid State.

"No.... I meant all tube.... Both tube in Pre-amp and Power-amp section"

"OH! That one! Got! Got! This one here! Damn hardcore!"

"Um..... that's just tube-enabled. I want an all tube 50watter"

"Oh... eer.... lemme check.... sorry man... don't have wan here. Maybe you give me the model number and then I check"

"Nevermind."





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post Mar 3 2007, 11:21 PM

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well, if that godin can coil-tap, go get it.

another option is the ibanez SZ520, one of the rare few ibanez that i dont mind.
comes with ibanez duncan pickups, coil-tap also.
basically its LP specs but in a strat design.

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post Mar 3 2007, 11:23 PM

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yea...maybe i sould save all the trouble and get the godin....but its S-S-H woould prefer H-S-H
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:24 PM

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seriously, you do not need S-S-H, or H-S-H, or A-B-C.
any 3 pickup combo takes getting used to, cos the middle pickup WILL get in the way of your pick.
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:24 PM

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gonna buy roland cube 20x rm700+ with it and i get 3 month free lessons
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:25 PM

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Good choice man! Now you'll need an awesome guitar!
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:26 PM

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i've tried it out and 3 pickups are ok...dont really have a prob
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Mar 3 2007, 11:24 PM)
gonna buy roland cube 20x rm700+ with it and i get 3 month free lessons
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heh, this reminds me of a certain store that starts with the letter M.
anyone wanna buy vowels? tongue.gif

the boss will come in, act nice nice and all.
convince you to buy a nice nice guitar and say he'll teach you etc etc.
he is good at guitar for sure.
but once you buy it, he wont teach you and someone else will.

so yea, whos gonna be giving you those 3 month free lessons?
their plumber? tongue.gif
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:30 PM

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i dunno ..i dont really need it... cos im self taught and i know piano and i play acoustic
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:31 PM

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so yea, if you really need the 20x go for it.
but, there are better and more sensible buys around too for that price.
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:31 PM

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uh... like ?

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post Mar 3 2007, 11:33 PM

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k to put it simply...
the 20w amp is stuck in no mans land.

its too loud for bedroom, and too soft for anything else.

so you can always look at the ever popular roland microcube, or vox DA-5 if bedroom is all you want.
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post Mar 3 2007, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Mar 3 2007, 10:55 PM)
well im not really sure ...cos the guy say when strumming on humbuckers its very heavy so its not nice ....then he say can switch the humbucker to single coil

humbuckers like this can switch to use single coil.... hmm.gif
(......)
(......)

and humbuckers like this cannot rclxub.gif

I......I
I___ I

i know LP doesnt have H-S-H and S-S-H... just saying i want something tht looks like LP
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I dont quite follow the "diagram" above. blink.gif blush.gif

My washburn is H-H, and "supposedly" can coil tap, ie change to single p/u via the push-pull pot.
What I mean by "supposedly" is that the standard neck humbucker is not a 4 conductor wire (I think), hence cannot. But I plan to get and install a Seymour Duncan '59 humbucker with 4 conductor wire. Then I can get a REAL single pickup sound
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post Mar 4 2007, 12:01 AM

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what that smackard at guitar store meant was...
a humbucker with exposed coils can coil tap, and one with a cover cannot.
that smacktard of cos didnt know about having 4 conductor wires.
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err.... i think thread starter should check this out: http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2007-03D...TUNER_CABLE.htm
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:33 AM

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so everydying, u mean 15 amp or 16 amp pr anything less than 20 amp watts is good enough for room practice? btw, where is that shop thats starts with M? mighty music? the only shop i know start with M and having roland stuff, but then been both shops b4 and there are no roland cubes
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post Mar 4 2007, 02:31 AM

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He means that 20 watts is too loud so 15watts or 16 watts would be ideal for room practice. You might want to check out harmony in uptown, they should still have stock for it. In my opinion the Microcube is better than the Cube 15 since it models amps and not stomp boxes.

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my fender mini twin with its raging 1w of pure power is more than enough for my bedroom tongue.gif
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post Mar 4 2007, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 3 2007, 10:33 PM)
cheaper godin guitars usually have bodies made from poplar.
ie. same material as the older fender mexican models.
now fender mexican are using traditional alder like US.

so basically you're just paying more for its 'assembled in the US tag'.
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i'm just wondering, what are the tonal characteristics of the poplar wood on guitars? hmm.gif
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post Mar 4 2007, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Mar 3 2007, 11:17 PM)
okok....

so do you guys know any good guitar

tht looks like LP( dont have to be exact)
H-H or H-S-H pickups
and can coil tap
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with that spec and pricing, why not that a look at ibanez or cort guitars?

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post Mar 4 2007, 01:04 PM

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sorry dude but i dont really fancy ibanez guitar

okok..forget the coil tap thing

around rm1800 for

H-H or H-S-H
Lp like body
good tone and sustain
good wood
good build
mainly for strumming and solo ( no shredding )
no ibanez unless it looks like lp smile.gif
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For RM1800??

Go for an Epi LP-100..... I'm sure there are alot of korean made Epis left in KL.
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:12 PM

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i tought about epi lp 100 but they say its made in china now...and they use dots on the fret board on epi lp 100 which is fugly

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post Mar 4 2007, 01:31 PM

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LP-100 is a bolt-on, body is much thinner etc.
so you will not get the full LP experience.
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post Mar 4 2007, 02:27 PM

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So, basically you're buying a guitar because of the looks?

I'm damn happy with my LP-100 actually.... mostly due to the fact that it's a much lighter then my ZW LP and also with the EMGs.... it sounds brutal as well. Yes.... It's not the traditional LP tone, but it's quite close.


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no...not only for looks ..dude but i do love a LP look..

anyway i just went to bentlys today , lots of ibanez but dint interest me and ive decided to go for the Godin SD guitar ( 1800 ) ...cos of its versatility and aparently quite good reviews on ultimate-guitar.com

http://www.godinguitars.com/godinperfseriesp.htm

its gonna go with roland cube 20X ..do you think its a good buy
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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Mar 4 2007, 02:52 PM)
no...not only for looks ..dude but i do love a LP look..

anyway i just went to bentlys today , lots of ibanez but dint interest me and ive decided to go for the Godin SD guitar ( 1800 ) ...cos of its versatility and  aparently quite good reviews on ultimate-guitar.com

http://www.godinguitars.com/godinperfseriesp.htm

its gonna go with roland cube 20X ..do you think its a good buy
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Have you tried handling and auditioning the Godin?

How does it feel? comfortable? Size, shape, cutting ?
Hows the weight?
Hows the neck feel? (its a 12" radius fingerboard)
Is it bolt-on, bolt-in, set-neck, etc?
Hows the sustain?
Hows the frets? Easily accessible?
Hows the trem?
Hows the tone?
Hows the looks, finishes,... etc
The SD is a 24.75" scale guitar. Do you prefer it over 25.5"? Maybe feel no different smile.gif

Just few things you can consider knowing

Interested to know your personal opinion smile.gif
Appreciate if you could share.

nb: on neck construction, can read info from http://www.edromanguitars.com/tech/neckconstruction.htm

(nb: the view and opinion on neck constructions are of ed romans personal view. Others may not share the same view)

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 3 2007, 11:27 PM)
heh, this reminds me of a certain store that starts with the letter M.
anyone wanna buy vowels? tongue.gif

the boss will come in, act nice nice and all.
convince you to buy a nice nice guitar and say he'll teach you etc etc.
he is good at guitar for sure.
but once you buy it, he wont teach you and someone else will.

so yea, whos gonna be giving you those 3 month free lessons?
their plumber? tongue.gif
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I think i'm gonna solve
Mahogany?

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post Mar 4 2007, 03:19 PM

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yea i tried it out in the shop...

- its real comefortable for me ( maybe cos i play a big ass acoustic so..)
- pretty light compared to epiphone
- i play an acoustic with a thick neck so the godin neck was fine
- its bolt on ( so can change the neck if it breaks )
- sound quality was good for me...got the sound im looking for
- it looks like a fender tele mixed with abit of Lp ( yum )

only complaints is tht its H-S-S , i wanted a H-S-H

but i think there is another model 'godin sdxt' which has H-S-H


Added on March 4, 2007, 3:24 pmops sorry the neck is bolted in

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post Mar 4 2007, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Mar 4 2007, 03:19 PM)
- its bolt on ( so can change the neck if it breaks )
thats what most ppl think.
but reality is, finding a aftermarket neck is not easy.
and sometimes the original manufacturers will not send you a replacement neck, unless you send them the whole body.
since its a godin, aftermarket necks will be hell to find.
even for strats which are common, aftermarket necks sometimes dont fit perfectly.

also out of so many guitars, how many necks you think break?
and those that break are usually caused by stupidity.

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post Mar 4 2007, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Mar 4 2007, 03:19 PM)
yea i tried it out in the shop...

- its real comefortable for me ( maybe cos i play a big ass acoustic so..)
- pretty light compared to epiphone
- i play an acoustic with a thick neck so the godin neck was fine
- its bolt on ( so can change the neck if it breaks )
- sound quality was good for me...got the sound im looking for
- it looks like a fender tele mixed with abit of Lp ( yum )

only complaints is tht its H-S-S , i wanted a H-S-H

but i think there is another model 'godin sdxt' which has H-S-H


Added on March 4, 2007, 3:24 pmops sorry the neck is bolted in
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Looks like you've done quite a deal of homework researching on your next-on-the-to-buy-list guitar smile.gif. You've pretty much have nailed what you basically looking for

A few more "things" you can consider

Have you tried strapping the goding and playing with it standing? (did you try playing with it standing or sitting? might want to try playing while standing). How does the guitar feel playing standing...

Tried yanking on the wammy bar? How does the Godin stand from abuse on the wammy bar? Still in tune? biggrin.gif

Hows the tone? What pickups is the godin using? For cheap/not-so-expensive guitars, I would say usually the stock pickups sound not great. You might want to research and consider finding what kind of pickup replacement when you are ready to "upgrade" your goding. (active or passive, brand, model...etc)

Maybe other forummers can chip in their thoughts on what else you can consider.

Just my $0.02

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post Mar 4 2007, 04:56 PM

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havent tried it standing yet...gonna do it next time

hell i pulled the shit out of tht whammy ( i think)..still in tune dude but its not lockin tuners...

it uses stock godin pickups which are good ( according to reviews ) , dont know bout the pickups but i did get the sound i wanted smile.gif

called them just now ..apparently the godin sdxt is out of production so ill just go for godin sd


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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 4 2007, 03:24 PM)
thats what most ppl think.
but reality is, finding a aftermarket neck is not easy.
and sometimes the original manufacturers will not send you a replacement neck, unless you send them the whole body.
since its a godin, aftermarket necks will be hell to find.
even for strats which are common, aftermarket necks sometimes dont fit perfectly.

also out of so many guitars, how many necks you think break?
and those that break are usually caused by stupidity.
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exactly dude...not like im gonna throw it on the floor or make out with my gf on it shocking.gif

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post Mar 4 2007, 10:12 PM

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eh wait...
you're looking for a godin SD?
there is one now on jamtank for sale at RM1250...used of cos.

interesting guitar with 24.75" scale length.
but maple body, thats gonna be one bright sounding guitar...and possibly very heavy if its not chambered.

just beware of the rock maple neck.
some users have complained that its too 'rock hard', til the trussrod doesnt do crap on it.

 

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