I graduated from overseas university and I don't know which uni is better. I don't plan to go overseas for PhD because of scholarship problem. So I think just continue local. Let say I already found good supervisors to do PhD in both universities with research i am interested in. One uni requires me to write thesis in Malay which is a red flag but I love the potential supervisor. While UM is so extraordinaire but i heard lots of students take more than 5 years to complete their PhD. So k can give their opinions. Really appreciate

MY Area of Research: Biological Science/ Cell Biology

This post has been edited by pixie1989: Mar 1 2017, 11:10 AM

uitm better. owai

UM is bestest

Already met some potential supervisors there but I wasn't interested with their research

UMS lor for biological sciences. State of the art equipment too.

Otherwise, UPM got some collab with UMS and Japan...

Wats yr research area?

UM now requires at least two ISI publications (especially in the science area) as an additional requirement for graduation. This is a setback for many although they have completed their thesis unless u're doing the PhD by publications.

UKM, i dont think they require any publications as a requirement yet.

But still UM is the better one.

Nope ......Here it is......

Singapore industry much prefer graduate from UKM than UM

definitely UM, you doing thesis on what?

Not true. UKM also requires 2 publications as discussed with my potential sv last week

Biological science/ cell biology specifically

Thanks for the heads up.

If that's the case, might as well go to UM

And why is that?

UM or UKM? rethink again pls.

uitm is not research university. better enroll in research university. owaiiiiiii. btw, if got good supervisor, ts can go ahead. good supervisor much much better than good university. if ur phd research is very good then it is > whatever university. ur research will be compare with the same field regardless university and very good phd research indeed will bring fame to institution. that is why majority university die2 will ikat candidate if they found the candidate is bright..

to ts..um vs ukm. my vote goes to Um. oldest and prestigious institution in malaysia. Ukm need to wrote in bm some more. Really headache. Not easy to write and explain in bahasa term. btw I believe both uni need to publish in high impact q1 journal.

I think for PhD in Biosciences and if you intended to stay in academy, only publication is important. So whichever lab that work on research that you are interested in and has good publication track record should be good to go (I am not saying just looking at publications, but that's how the academy field work right now). Besides, how's the funding of the potential lab? If the supervisor is not tenured, you might potentially be left hanging once the supervisor contract is not continued.

On a side note, as far as I know, most PhD programmes are funded either by fellowship or the grant from the PIs (at least in Biosciences). Assuming your undergraduate was done in a good standing oversea university (with good grade and lab experiences), I think it should not be a problem to get a PhD position oversea).

Regarding duration, most PhD programmes require ~5 years to be completed (and largely depend on how fast and how lucky you are. Yes, you will need a lot of luck, because even if you are hardworking, your project is shitty or turns out to be not as biological relevant as you hypothesised, there gone your time!). So far I only know Aus/UK/EU phd can be completed within 4 years (For EU, you will need a master for phd,ipso facto, it will be ~ 5 years too).



This post has been edited by Ivangile: Mar 1 2017, 11:24 AM

If I ever do phd, I just try this

My cousin did something similarly sounding at ukm. She has a v good job now.
Which oversees uni u went btw?

If I'm not mistaken several UKM faculty has MOU with Singapore industry player and Government agenvies

Thesis.... Write in Malay.
Think for your self, if a work of your life. The accessibility only for applicable for Malaysia Uni.
If you want your work to be famous. Please use English k?

UM ...... maybe you can be next to discover another Nipah virus.

UM more hngggnh amoi.
UKM more awek mantap.

back to the topic, writing thesis in bm is really a headache. you need to translate somemore when you want to publish your thesis. and professor in ukm could sometime be quite delusional, thinking bm is the international language.
so Um > UKM.

Both OK. UM has a slight edge. Their biological science is famous, I've a few friends there.

P/S I'm an academician in UPM.

Two ISI papers is kacang putih la. Honestly if one can't squeeze this out from a PhD, the quality of work is most likely substandard.

But it's not easy in the social science and management area.

Usually the ISI publication requirements are in the science area. In social science, usually SCOPUS will do.

Not really. Publications in UKM are all in International Journal with high impact factor.

Yes publication is worldwide, but the person interest in your work, but only available in native language would you want to even go and read?

biological science..iianm singapore have better use of this field than malaysia

Dah la some more biological science. All terminology in English some more