QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 23 2023, 01:47 AM)
8-10 years... No one is future proof on socket. AMD will have better second hand CPUs. Maybe Intel could make another Sandy Bridge and leave AMD in the dust again.
I don't use wifi, no idea.
Windows? Shopee is only a few bucks.
USB 4.0 will cost a bomb for now....
Thanks.
My idea to get a good motherboard is to "future proof" for 8-10 years as I have a bad experience with my current setup. My current mobo doesn't even have a M2 slot and it only has 2 ram slots lol. So I want to get a good mobo so that it is quite upgradeable in future. My current setup is an 11 year old PC.... Intel i5-3450 and a Giga B75M D3V mobo, Samsung 840 Pro 120GB SATA SSD. GPU, PSU and RAM I have upgraded over the years..
The ASUS TUF x670E costs RM1.7k and let's say getting a cheaper B650 board will save me a couple of hundreds which isn't even worth it.
My thinking is get the best mobo and CPU I can afford as it is not easily upgradeable plus I'm just a casual user haha.
QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 23 2023, 10:31 AM)
For the same price as the CPU it might be better to go for the non-X model, probably cheaper and easier too cool (and if you need more performance there's always the PBO option)
Don't bother with PCIe Gen 5 for now as there are no hardware (or workloads) that even properly utilize PCIe Gen 4, let alone Gen 5, and Gen 5 drives are very expensive for now, along with the fact that even the 4090 only takes a small amount of performance loss with PCIe 2.0 x16 at 4K

If that's the case then AM5 might be a good choice due to its socket longevity, but AMD is not obliged to give current 600 series boards the full array of AM5 CPUs (they can always restrict certain CPUs for newer AM5 chipsets, like what nearly happened with Zen 3 on AM4)

Considering that most CPUs are practically maxed out from the factory there's very little reason to overclock them anyway unless you like the idea of pumping unreasonable amounts of power onto it

A B650E might not be a bad idea either, but I think the vanilla B650 is an even better choice considering that PCIe 5.0 (or even 4.0) is still at its infancy right now

Thanks.
So a 7700 with PBO will equal a 7700X in terms of performance?
Does AMD like change socket every 5 years or so? Which means if I want to get a newer CPU 6 years later, it would not be compatible with my AM5 board..
What are your thoughts on the i7-13700K vs 7700 vs 7700K performance 8-10 years down the road? the Intel chip's TDP at max load is like 2x the AMD but I don't benchmark at all, I'm not sure if gaming or RAW picture editing stresses it 100%?
QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jan 24 2023, 01:00 AM)
RM 5.6k and not even include a GPU? Thats a lot of money for a very poor build. A nonX R7 will perform nearly the same even at OCing, and that Asus mobo is just crazy prices. Get a B650 instead with PCIE 5.0 at SSD interface if you think you will need that speed.
I picked an Asus mobo as it has USB4.0 compatibility which I may appreciate in the future haha.
The X670E board @RM1.7k is only like RM700 more expensive than a B650 board which IMHO is totally worth it as I am planning to use it 8-10 years down the road..
QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jan 24 2023, 07:30 PM)
1. not a really good option to go amd now as they hv many software with their 1st gen "new" architecture.
2. kingston fury 5200mhz ddr5 i presume the price u get.. with not really beneficial for u as amd heavy demand the ram to achieve high processor clockspeed..
3. home use need window meh??
intel quild u can get like this
3. If not windows, then get linux??
This post has been edited by -kytz-: Jan 26 2023, 12:37 AM