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myway1985
post Dec 22 2023, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(EpicStory1 @ Dec 22 2023, 12:01 PM)
I see. So buy both RAM and SSD for now?
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All price going up . Next year tax from 6->8> 10%

If budget allow buy now ..

Ddr5 only beneficial if u use the top of the top line.. currently only i9 can see real 2 digit FPS increment from ddr4

I5 NO difference for D4 n d5
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post Dec 22 2023, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(EpicStory1 @ Dec 22 2023, 02:16 AM)
Thanks for input so far.

If I may - would like to also seek for an alternative build suggestion for AMD GPU. And the CPU can be either Intel or AMD. I'm contemplating because I read RTX 40 series is just not really worth the money now and would be better to spend money on getting an AMD GPU card like RX7800XT or RX7900 if I were to go for 4070Ti. Or wait for RTX 50 series but realistically waiting forever is not viable either as there's always something better.

Budget can remain at 8.5K and purpose is to game mainly (ignoring design work).
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If you keep to this same budget (rm9k) and topup just measly rm50, you can change out that 4070ti for a rx7900XT
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/sapphire...2420964334.html?
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post Dec 22 2023, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Dec 22 2023, 02:17 PM)
All price going up . Next year tax from 6->8> 10%

If budget allow buy now ..

Ddr5 only beneficial if u use the top of the top line.. currently only i9 can see real 2 digit FPS increment from ddr4

I5 NO difference for D4 n d5
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Tenkiu PMX! No wait it should be tenkiu rakyats for choosing PMX! doh.gif

Oso DDR5 performance gap can only be seen at 1080P. At 4K its basically the same.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2777-ddr5-vs-ddr4-gaming/

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Dec 22 2023, 11:59 PM
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post Dec 23 2023, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 22 2023, 11:56 PM)
Tenkiu PMX! No wait it should be tenkiu rakyats for choosing PMX!  doh.gif

Oso DDR5 performance gap can only be seen at 1080P. At 4K its basically the same.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2777-ddr5-vs-ddr4-gaming/
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Its not totally our issue. Its DRAM and SSD price going up. Plus crappy ringgit.
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post Dec 23 2023, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 23 2023, 12:15 AM)
Its not totally our issue. Its DRAM and SSD price going up. Plus crappy ringgit.
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Crappy ringgit (plus tax hike) is TOTALLY our issue. sad.gif
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post Dec 23 2023, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 23 2023, 01:01 AM)
Crappy ringgit (plus tax hike) is TOTALLY our issue.  sad.gif
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Haha... U think if PN government it will become better? World economy it's mess . Plus war
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post Dec 23 2023, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Dec 23 2023, 08:06 AM)
Haha... U think if PN government it will become better? World economy it's mess . Plus war
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I didnt say things would have been better under PN. Plus PN isnt the only other choice cool2.gif

World is a mess but some countries are doing much better at weathering it (look south, look north). Anyhow I have filled my DRAM needs (4x sticks) and stocked my SSD+storage needs for the foreseeable future. Will only left one M2 slot open for the next big change.

Yes I would add the chorus to all to buy RAM & SSD as DRAM & NAND chip prices have started trending higher with the stock cuts started since last month.
https://www.techspot.com/news/100491-dram-n...-upward-q4.html

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post Dec 24 2023, 10:58 AM

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only ram and ssd prices going up next year?

i am planning to build a rig as well
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post Dec 24 2023, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 10:58 AM)
only ram and ssd prices going up next year?

i am planning to build a rig as well
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All go up la

Tax go up from 6%

Wat u wan to build? Expect price up bout 10%
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post Dec 24 2023, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Dec 24 2023, 11:23 AM)
All go up la

Tax go up from 6%

Wat u wan to build? Expect price up bout 10%
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Budget max 8k wat can i build? The other day my acer nitro 5 added another 16gb ram but fps still below 30 when playing the isle. Lol i ask another guy his fps is 100 averagely and he us using gtx 4060
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post Dec 24 2023, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 10:58 AM)
only ram and ssd prices going up next year?

i am planning to build a rig as well
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In general looking at this year, whatever price reduction happening elsewhere have been countered with our falling RM so you dont see any price decrease which is bad becoz these 2 parts prices are rising again so the effect on local price hikes will be more drastic than just 6 -> 8% tax hike.

If going to build next year, I see a narrow sweetspot in whole of March 2024, when new 14th Core nonK has ady launched (mid Jan) and RTX Supers too (end-Jan to mid-Feb), these would replace the current gen so there are going to be good deals for previous gen parts plus just prior to tax hike rise. But since this window is so small, in general just try to get one right after these launches will do.

As for ur lappy i suspect something else is throttling ur system, most likely heat, and generally lappy parts are one tier below desktop spec so dont expect it to perform same as others
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post Dec 24 2023, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 01:33 PM)
Budget max 8k wat can i build? The other day my acer nitro 5 added another 16gb ram but fps still below 30 when playing the isle. Lol i ask another guy his fps is 100 averagely and he us using gtx 4060
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This from Myway is ur best option today (dont have to be all white as it was for another person)
i5-14600KF RM1,399.00
MSI z790 P wifi D4 RM1099
32GB 3600mhz kingston fury white rgb RM499.00
1TB KC3000 RM400.00
SApphire RX7800XT Pure (white) RM2999
1st player steampunk 850 gold RM399.00
thermalright frozen vision 360 white RM699.00
CM h500P White RM399
RM7893

But if for next year build;
14600K swap with 14700 nonK (8Pcores is now reco spec for AAA games) *no need bother with Ksku OCing stuff*
Z790 swap with B760M-A Wifi (same series but lower B760 chipset)
3600 DDR4 swap with 3200 (lower speed cuz nonK IMC cannot hit 3600 on XMP)
frozen vision 360 swap with PA/PS 120/SE (nonK no need AIO and no worries on pump failure)
Whatever budget saved push all to GPU RX7800XT(min)/4070Ti or RX7900XT/4080(if budget can still fit)
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post Dec 24 2023, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 24 2023, 02:30 PM)
This from Myway is ur best option today (dont have to be all white as it was for another person)
i5-14600KF RM1,399.00
MSI z790 P wifi D4 RM1099
32GB 3600mhz kingston fury white rgb RM499.00
1TB KC3000 RM400.00
SApphire RX7800XT Pure (white) RM2999
1st player steampunk 850 gold RM399.00
thermalright frozen vision 360 white RM699.00
CM h500P White RM399
RM7893

But if for next year build;
14600K swap with 14700 nonK (8Pcores is now reco spec for AAA games) *no need bother with Ksku OCing stuff*
Z790 swap with B760M-A Wifi (same series but lower B760 chipset)
3600 DDR4 swap with 3200 (lower speed cuz nonK IMC cannot hit 3600 on XMP)
frozen vision 360 swap with PA/PS 120/SE (nonK no need AIO and no worries on pump failure)
Whatever budget saved push all to GPU RX7800XT(min)/4070Ti or RX7900XT/4080(if budget can still fit)
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I saw the build u recommeded earlier what is the difference between intel processors K and KF? In layman term
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 02:56 PM)
I saw the build u recommeded earlier what is the difference between intel processors K and KF? In layman term
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K got igpu
KF is w/o igpu so u need a GPU card.
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post Dec 24 2023, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 24 2023, 02:59 PM)
K got igpu
KF is w/o igpu so u need a GPU card.
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means K got integrated GPU but it's kind of useless as im getting a GPU right?

so a KF will do

btw if my processor is intel but GPU is AMD is it ok?
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 01:33 PM)
Budget max 8k wat can i build? The other day my acer nitro 5 added another 16gb ram but fps still below 30 when playing the isle. Lol i ask another guy his fps is 100 averagely and he us using gtx 4060
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How about these?

Core i5-14600K - 1379
EK AIO 360 Basic + LGA 1700 kit - 378 + 19
MSI Z790-P DDR4 - 1039
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 344 (not sure if price went up or not)
Sapphire RX 7800 XT Pulse - 2699
Kingston KC3000 2TB - 599
Corsair RM850e - 669
Lian Li Lancool III case - 539

RM7665 total (Viewnet / Shopee prices)

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post Dec 24 2023, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 24 2023, 04:38 PM)
How about these?

Core i5-14600K - 1379
EK AIO 360 Basic +  LGA 1700 kit - 378 + 19
MSI Z790-P DDR4 - 1039
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 344 (not sure if price went up or not)
Sapphire RX 7800 XT Pulse - 2699
Kingston KC3000 2TB - 599
Corsair RM850e - 669
Lian Li Lancool III case - 539

RM7665 total (Viewnet / Shopee prices)
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Bro why the gpu got sapphire rx 7800, gigabytbe radeon rx 7800 sapphire pulse rx 7800 what are the differences?
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 05:24 PM)
Bro why the gpu got sapphire rx 7800, gigabytbe radeon rx 7800 sapphire pulse rx 7800 what are the differences?
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Difference is the brand. Still both low tier card.
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 24 2023, 03:31 PM)
means K got integrated GPU but it's kind of useless as im getting a GPU right?

so a KF will do

btw if my processor is intel but GPU is AMD is it ok?
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Why not? GPU is GPU, CPU is CPU.

BTW if ur not OCing, going Ksku is kinda pointless.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 24 2023, 05:37 PM)
Difference is the brand. Still both low tier card.
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https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gpus,4380.html

After RTX 4090, 4080, RX7900 XTX, RX 7900XT, RTX 4070 is RX7800 XT still considered low tier?

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 24 2023, 08:18 PM)
Why not? GPU is GPU, CPU is CPU.

BTW if ur not OCing, going Ksku is kinda pointless.
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bro can comment in layman's term?

im kinda new sorry

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