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 Malaysian Estimated Weekly RON95/RON97 Price, RON95 ◆, RON97 ◆ on 7/3 (Estimation)

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post Oct 10 2017, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Oct 10 2017, 04:06 PM)
It was actually out on Monday afternoon smile.gif 2 sen probably. Let’s wait til tomorrow until the usual people come out with inside info to be sure
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For price drop, the dealers would prefer you leak at very late...so got more unplanned ppl to refuel first...reduce the loss... lol
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post Nov 6 2017, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Nov 6 2017, 08:58 AM)
stimix AIP figures out. 60.3sen AUD per litre of MOGAS95. fuel up before thursday guys.
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how much up vs last week?
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post Nov 21 2017, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(BuncitPesonawan @ Nov 21 2017, 05:49 PM)
will wait for chengshan and jasnhanjk  notworthy.gif
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Should be tomorrow only get the update
Too early leak later stations rugi 99
N u can’t blame fake price flying around too
It tempts ppl to go fuel up until moment when official price announced
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post Nov 21 2017, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Nov 21 2017, 08:41 PM)
23 Nov - 29 Nov 2017

Petrol 95 👇🏽 8 cents
Petrol 97 👇🏽 8 cents
Diesel 👇🏽 2 cents
Euro 5 👇🏽2 cents
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QUOTE(chengshan @ Nov 21 2017, 08:41 PM)
Yeap i have no news so far. Could be later tonight or tommorow morning
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Same as here
https://malaysiafreebies.com/petrol-price-malaysia/
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post Feb 21 2018, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 21 2018, 03:26 PM)
That's a joke everywhere now. However the real fact is the refined peyrol price as per australian AIP -MOPS out on Monday showed one of the steepest fall within a week.
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Wonder if there is an app for mops
Can see quite a lot app for crude but not that
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post Mar 30 2018, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Mar 29 2018, 08:47 AM)
As of now I can only calculate as usual, as I don't know how the government will dole out their subsidy for the fuel - or even until when will the subsidy continue, so I shall give the following scenarios on page 1 moving forward. The following prices are using Wednesday fuel price for reference.

If no sudden subsidy
RON95 ▲ 8 sen to RM2.28
Diesel ▲ 9 sen to RM2.27

If maintain current subsidy
RON95 ▼ 2 sen to RM2.18
Diesel ◆ at RM2.18

Or peg at current prices
RON95 ◆ at RM2.20
Diesel ◆ at RM2.18

Anything goes for now!
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So means supposingly March 29 should be 2.20 -> 2.30
end up unchanged at 2.20 (aka subsidy 0.10)
current forecast is if no subsidy = 2.28 (-0.02), or 2.18 (if subsidy same), or 2.20 (subsidy can reduce 0.02)
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post Apr 4 2018, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Apr 4 2018, 06:06 PM)
laugh.gif you all don’t need to visit this thread again until maybe 2 weeks after election I guess smile.gif

I’ll still be updating it, so do check the 1st post if you want to know, the “what if” price smile.gif
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yea man...which makes it even more disgusting about this gov...

previously when price rocket higher for ron95 hit close to 2.40 everyone screaming n the minister say...no...we can't...its follow market...blablabla

suddenly now market rocket, and our price submarine, don need follow market ad la....election first, market later....super sarcastic
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post Apr 5 2018, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Apr 4 2018, 07:24 PM)
many minister gonna be axed after this GE14

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because they are incompetent or Sky Changed Color
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they gonna be around if still same gov...
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post Apr 25 2018, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Apr 25 2018, 10:33 AM)
The estimated "daily price" of RON95 at closing time yesterday was RM2.41. Thank god for the subsidy mang

https://goo.gl/cpYiBN further details on page 1
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should say...without "manipulating" the price, ppl sentiment in this few weeks will be very heated...with rocket price...
n the BN sure get a lot hate votes....
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post May 6 2018, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Apr 30 2018, 01:57 PM)
The region fuel price is indeed increasing, and I'm sure it's hitting the government coffers badly... Thank god for the subsidy!

What I personally estimate, judging from the data on page 1 (for 3 May - 9 May) http://goo.gl/cpYiBN
If no sudden subsidy
RON95 ▲ 19 sen to RM2.39
Diesel ▲ 24 sen to RM2.42

If maintain current subsidy
RON95 ▲ 2 sen to RM2.22 (suspected 17 sen subsidy)
Diesel ▲ 4 sen to RM2.22 (suspected 20 sen subsidy)

Or peg at current prices
RON95 ◆ at RM2.20 (with a 19 sen subsidy)
Diesel ◆ at RM2.18 (with a 24 sen subsidy)

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AIP Petrol Weekly Report: https://aip.com.au/sites/default/files/down...pril%202018.pdf
AIP Diesel Weekly Report: https://aip.com.au/sites/default/files/down...pril%202018.pdf
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indeed...this will be highest since weekly price...last highest for ron95 is 11/2017 when hit 2.38
the trend looks continuing to go higher...
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post May 13 2018, 04:48 PM

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Mekanisme penetapan harga petrol akan dikekalkan sementara kajian mekanisme baharu dilakukan - PM Dr Mahathir

Just saw from Bernama FB 1hr ago...
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post May 14 2018, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 14 2018, 06:42 PM)
many will start to regret when they start implementing this...
educated younger gen easily falls in M40 category, and they contributed majority of car usage... onsite engineer, sales etc..

so if i'm falls in B40 category also, i would need to sell my gen2 @RM7k and purchase a Saga/Myvi 1.3 @30k above to entitle for subsidy? Many B40 category still driving Wira 1.5 i foresee...
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suppose you got your gen2 cheap also right...why sell since thats already a saving...
use until when need change...then can consider swap...

unless they move away from CC as tax and measure...
maybe u can start seeing some B-C seg, conti or not...showing up with 1.0-1.3L range...
e.g. HRV maybe will show up as 1.0T?
Civic 1.8 maybe get replace with 1.0T version? lol

else maybe if they finally swap to like how others doing, use emission scale, or use HP scale...

nothing is perfect and no 100% right...so its up to gov which to focus first....
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post May 14 2018, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ May 14 2018, 08:01 PM)
Ok... I think you really need to read the manifesto itself. It may just be all vehicle owners riding motorcycles 125cc and below, as well as cars 1300cc and below will receive the subsidy, and not just B40 and lower M40. I really dunno and can only speculate until they actually implement this.

If they only use the engine capacity as the indicator, then will the VW Beetle 1.2L (RM148k) owners also benefit?

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http://kempen.s3.amazonaws.com/manifesto/M...festo_PH_EN.pdf
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Aside from Perodua, and Proton 1.3 Iriz etc, i can only find these below 1300
Ford Fiesta 1.0 Sports
Peugeot 208 1.2 PureTech
Renault Captur TCe 120
Renault Clio GT 1.2T
VW Vento
Kia Picanto

Not small number also....
anyway...they also excluded Electric car in that sense...
but anyway all these above and e-Car is definitely not B40 range...M40 may try for it...until whole pic clear...no point debating...
aside from looking at affordability, should we also start looking at fuel it burns....

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QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ May 15 2018, 08:45 AM)
Upon further reflection & thought on the valid point you have raised.

That assistance should go to people who are worse off or marginalized communities which are negatively effected by the price of petrol.

I agree with your argument that subsidies should be based on an income principle.

I'm happy to see this discussion going on in a objective and open manner.

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IC can be one to be used...but u can't pay fuel with it i assume...
anyhow one of the best reference in the industry is the fleet card
e.g. Petrol company (like Shell) has been given their employee a type of credit-card like card (Shell card?)
When employee refuel with that card, rebate is credit on top at bill cycle n settle by employee...

In this case gov actually can create some kind of B40 card, maybe in the form of prepaid.
holder of the card can use that to pay on refuel
and i pretty sure of coz to avoid abuse, a certain cap/max ceiling usage can be control from there (aside from commercial 1, personal usage shouldn't go too far off)

What I can envision is to have
RON95 is float in a bucket range (gov maintain it within a certain range based on their capability to contain it to help the ppl ease through)
B40 will get the card which can allow them to pay for it at a discounted price vs the above general public (with a cap like probably 200L/mth?)
RON97+ (mainly premium car use) unsubsidised or a lower subsidy %
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post May 15 2018, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 15 2018, 02:08 PM)
this is by far the best idea for subsidy implementation thumbup.gif
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Unfortunately i m not part of Council of Elders lol
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post May 16 2018, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ May 16 2018, 04:51 PM)
Yes. But I am also unsure what is the best mechanism..

Subsidizing based on MyKad, will slow down the transaction, and may cause abuse. Taking my son's MyKad to purchase among others.

Subsidizing based on fuel type seems more balance, an introduction of Ron 91, pricing it at RM1.50 while Ron 95 and ron 97 to be daily float (which would mean around 2.40 to 2.60). Since, most higher tech cars require Ron95.

Unless, they provide BRIM in the form of petrol vouchers, then it fixes the issue. Anyone who wants to get cheap fuel, apply and submit salary slips.

Thinking out loud here.
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By fuel type won’t work
Bcoz other than high performance car
Those standard c-seg above $100k n some luxury can deal with lower ron
It really depends what is the focus of gov in term of fuel
Environmental benefit? Emission standard
For the poorer? BR1M type of petrol card
For the performance level? HP output
Not easy, tats y not so until today lol

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post May 18 2018, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ May 18 2018, 02:55 PM)
more reason for LHDN to enforce income tax filing.
the fleet card is similar to what gov use for their vehicle fuel purchase, they have 2 cards...payment card and vehicle card. but such method bound to misuse without proper sop when used publicly.
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Can do...
just impose a reasonable limit in the card...
say your target subsidy is 20%
then max fuel per month is 300
contoh: so if u used up to 300, your 300 will be rebate to 240
exceeded amount will not be applied with 20% reduction
(like Maybank Amex now say 5x TP only for petrol below 500, similar algorithm would do, don think can't)

the other way round... prepaid...you can load the card with whatever pre-loaded amount.
and you are cap to use 300 max at a subsidised rate. exceeded and your subsequent refuel is normal rate...

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post May 19 2018, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ May 19 2018, 02:13 PM)
i mean users can share their subsidy, that's where it'll leak.
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Can
U can’t stop if they want to
That’s why the card should have a “reasonable” cap, which is make sense for the holder, not “more than” what needed lol

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ May 19 2018, 06:09 PM)
the best way is to use ic as identification with fingerprint and pin to confirm transaction. i'm not sure jpn will be willing to share their info. it'll endanger our personal info to outside unwarranted access.
previously bn moved the subsidy to brim, reduce tax and other direct subsidy method.
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Something like Apple's Secure Enclave technology?
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This thread can tutup kedai? lol
i think people should still being aware about the actual market is like...

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