Well, don't misunderstood that all common properties in strata development will be taken taken care by JMB/MC, normally only those inside the fencing is looked after by the JMB/MC, common properties that outside the fencing shall finally handed over to local authority.. For example, Swan Lake in EcoMajestic (strata title township) shall be handed over to MPKJ one day, unless it is being "agreed and absorbed" by the Tenderfield precinct when EcoWorld leave Semenyih area one day.

Yes, theoretically, the common amenities inside the fencing of a Fenced and Guarded (individual title) property belongs to local authorities. Nonetheless, in practical, if the Fenced and Guarded property is handled by a good and committed Residents Association, I believe these facilities will be taken care as well. Similarly, for Gated and Guarded (strata title) property, the common properties inside the fencing/precinct belongs to JMB/MC, if there is no proper and committed team to handle them properly, it won't be lasting long and deteriorate fast as well.

The key factor for maintaining the common property from my perception still the residents who make up the JMB/MC/Residents Association, be it strata title GnG or individual title FnG. Just need to remember that developer will leave the project one day when the landbank for development is used up. It is the residents that need to handle/manage the common property inside the fencing.

The main difference is strata title property management is governed by the SMA regulation is structured and legalized appropriately. While for the individual title property management, it is governed by the constitution stated in ROS and local authority guideline only, less structured but more flexibility.

Having say this, by looking at the total landbank held by SP Setia in Semenyih/Beranang area currently, I believe they will be staying in this area at least for the upcoming 20 years though..

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 10 2018, 09:20 PM

DMC just an agreement between purchaser and developer, so that owners have additional to rules to comply. It is hard to apply to public though. In theory, after the the common properties are handed over to local authorities, actually we can't stop people from entering because the owner only owns the house, not the common area. Nonetheless, in real practice, I don't think people can just simply go into the FnG area. There will be hassle for sure. It is just like Setia Ecopark, they are individual title with DMC as well. But, don't think one will insist want to go in and sue the Residents Association / Management Company because barring them from entering. Maybe the owner who refuse to pay the maintenance fee will do so, but it will most likely bring to court case.

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Strata title is quite straight forward, the land is subdivided into parcel and every owner owns the parcel. Common properties shall be handled by JMB/MC and yes basically they can restrict people to go in. In return, all the expenses to maintain the common properties shall be charged to JMB/MC, which ultimately will comes from the parcel owners. This means higher rate of maintenance fee is inevitable.

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 11 2018, 11:11 AM

It is not yet hand over to local authority. Practically it is still handled by SP Setia management company now.

If SP Setia leave semenyih one day, most likely it will be handed over to local authorities as well. Nonetheless, it will still be long long way to go, at least not the upcoming 20 years..

Highrise mostly are strata title only..

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 11 2018, 11:11 AM

DMC already bound the purchaser legally and must pay maintenance fee ler.. As I said before, in theory many can speculate this and that.. In practical it is still rely on the team who handle the JMB/MC/Residents Association that managing the property... If the team is committed and strong, very sure the facilities and security within the fencing area are well kept, be it individual title, individual title with DMC or strata title. If the team is weak, regardless what title also useless.

Wah... pantang to say JH in SEH thread.. Later uncle tikam will come throwing bomb again... As far as I know, JH are individual title with DMC as well..

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 11 2018, 12:45 PM

No crystal ball to predict future.. If local authorities would like to tear down the guard houses, as at the current scenario, I presume more than 80% of guard houses in landed property within KV will be affected as they are individual title.. Maybe the local authorities officer houses as well...

MPKJ approved so many FnG in Semenyih area ler wei.... Mostly after 2013..

Requirement might be slightly different between local councils, but implementation normally quite standard across the local authorities.. KPKT has come out guidelines for the local council to follow.

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 11 2018, 12:54 PM

To avoid complication, normally developer would like the residents association to become the holder for the guard house.

100% consent is being introduced last year in 2017, but many local council on hold to the implementation due to strong objections. Many still practice the old requirement lah...

Yeap, if you worry on theoretical practicability of individual title with DMC, then you might opt to purchase strata title property.

The main disadvantages of the strata tile property would be:

1.) The monthly maintenance fee can be easily double, triple or quadraple than the FnG individual property.

2.) Renovation / daily practise is governed strictly through by-laws and very rigid with minimum flexibility. You might be saman by the local authority even changing the main gate.

Personally I still believe the management team is the most crucial. There are many condo actually comes with strata title, but also can't manage well the common properties, not to talk about execute something stated in the SMA.. How many condo with strata title can collect 100% maintenance fee of all units?

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 11 2018, 04:33 PM

Strata title protect and regulate the execution of common properties management.

Individual title don't have federal law to regulate the management of common properties. It will be depending on the Residents Association to manage it according to constitution stated in ROS and local authority guideline..

Lol... Be prepared to receive saman from the local authority, then they will learn.. Even how many pets can be kept also stated in the by-laws/DMC..

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 11 2018, 04:24 PM

The most prominent I knew is Setia Ecopark and Ambang Botanic Klang. Actually most of the landed projects we have today are individual title, except Desa Park City (although some precinct in DPC are individual title as well). Maybe you can name the landed project you know well and we can check if they are strata title or individual title?

There is clause stated in DMC that it is extended to subsale purchaser. If subsale purchaser refuse to sign the DMC then will be having conflict with the developer/management company. Normally a court case shall follow..

By the way, I dun saman other people ya...

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 11 2018, 04:32 PM

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Lol, cannot compare lah, both also good, depending on individual preference..

Nonetheless, for me the appreciation is depending more crucially on amenities / infra, which is the residents craving for.. strata or individual with DMC, for me not much big difference. Ultimately the maintenance is depending on the credibility of the team (residents) who managing it.

Individual title don't want give maintenance fee? Unless don't stay and don't rent, else residents association sure give you big big hassle...

Strata title got SMA to "protect" the maintenance fee collection? Some will still ignore and refuse to pay as well..

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 11 2018, 05:01 PM

Yeap, Gentlebre in EcoMajestic (bungalow lot land) if not mistaken is individual title. Needs Rabel taikor to confirm...

Thanks both taikor for the enlightenment!

wolftheyorkie, FYI...

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 11 2018, 09:53 PM

Many townhouse is in strata title, if you consider it is a "landed" property..

Strata title landed property is a fairly new concept in the country.. Most of them are just recently VP I presume (not more than 5 years).. Can't think of any strata landed which the developer already handed over the management to residents for more than 10 years.. Even DPC, Perdana Parkcity is still managing some of the precincts..

Nonetheless, if condo can be facing the issue with strata title, I am pretty sure it can be happened to strata landed as well though...

By the way, in future SEH 2 will be launching strata title landed products near highland region ..

This post has been edited by samkps: Feb 11 2018, 11:10 PM

Considered second/third phase after D'Cassia and D'Cerrum..

Can't expect much already under such market condition..

The sold out / mostly sold out one is D'Cassia and D'Cerrum. D'Camellia is a new phase medium cost apartment....