The spine of the first 11 is too weak at the moment. Need one "defensive duties" DM like Matic and preferably one central mid who can dictate tempo. At the moment, Coutinho is the only player who can control the tempo of our play. Slow down a bit, dribble and turn or speed up the pace.

When Coutinho goes off, we play with no concept of tempo at all. Just at one speed setting - HIGH.

It's like playing with a hot coal ball, and it easily goes out of control and picked up by the opponents even teams like Bournemouth who actually can play passing football. The problem becomes worse on days when Coutinho is off form. When he's on fire, like vs Everton, we look impressive.

If the management can solve this problem, the team can do much better in the league and stay in contention for more competitions.

I like klavan thou. Left footed, composed with the ball. Like Matip, he is very calm but unfortunately, we can't have two of this type of cb on the field. That's why Lovren who is more aggressive is ahead of him in picking order.

Totally agree on Milner. Reminds me of Kuyt. Average but very reliable. Always give their best in every match but rarely injured. Even at the ends of their career, they still push to their limits.

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Riise was the one having the giggle. All good.

No way when compared to Gomez. Don't forget he is very much unproven in the league even more so coming off such a lengthy layoff. There's no telling if he will even come good eventually. Hype and expectation doesn't always match reality.

After Sakho few good performance for CP, LFC now raise Sakho asking price to 30M

Julian Brandt father denied report that Julian Brandt had agree agreement with Bayern.

Klavan is okay, he's not terrible by any means, but he's just too slow. In terms of speed he's no better than Lucas playing at CB. I would very much prefer someone big and strong who's also good with the ball, like Van Dijk, although bringing Sakho back won't be too bad either.
Honestly I wouldn't want Milner near our starting 11, but he's a decent backup to have.

His debut season playing at left back was pretty decent and I believe he has the potential. He's still very very young and if there's someone then can turn him into a monster CB, it's Klopp.

Decent by the standards set by Moreno. His performances really wasn't all that amazing, just acceptable for a natural right footed centre back slotted at left back. Let's not forget after the horror show of Moreno's first season, all we asked for was someone to not fuck up at the back and Gomez was that.

We do have games where we could judge him and those are cup games of this season. Frankly speaking, not great as you can tell from our not so amazing cup runs. Whether or not those subpar performances were impacted by his lengthy injury does not matter. He needs time to get up to pace, maybe he will go back to being the wonderkid he was or maybe he will never be the same again, only time will tell which is why for the foreseeable future he will not be in anyway better than Klavan. If he does turn good eventually it will be at least 2-3 years down the line by which time it is time to let Klavan go anyway.

And not sure what confidence you have in Klopp's ability to make him better. Sure Klopp is a very good coach with a very good reputation of developing young players but most of those involve players in midfield or attacking positions or attacking aspects of the game. Klopp is not known for his ability to coach a defense, ask any Dortmund fan and they can tell you that much.

If we do sign another CB this summer, Klavan will be pushed down the pecking order as our 4th choice CB. For a player of his ability as a 4th choice really isn't that bad, pretty good in fact. Just look at some of our top 6 rivals, some of them can't even sort out their 1st and 2nd choices.

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no mane, no hendo, no lala, no emre... joy... zzz.
looks like robinhood returns tmr night.

Klopp pre-match press conference vs Bournemouth:

Sadio Mane knee not ‘positive’ - but Reds still waiting for swelling to go down before scan.
Klopp admits Mane could be out for the rest of the season.
Daniel Sturridge could return to the squad tomorrow.


Lallana and Henderson still missing.

Klopp says Liverpool have learned from their mistakes and will spend money to strengthen in the summer.


Klopp happy with Origi option


Klopp response on Koeman blast

time for Origi to shine like end last season.
always prefer Origi over hot n cold Firmino. He is more consistent given with match time he gets. Dunno why Klopp choose Firmino

origi also same.
prior to weekend game, he hadn't scored in something like 12 games totalling over 700 mins of playtime.

There was a period when he was on hot goal scoring form but overall performance wise wasn't too good imo. That was during our not so good run around January I think.

http://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesli...oach-432745.jsp

http://www.dw.com/en/julian-nagelsmann-mak...yern/a-38298885

sorry for jumping out of topic.

But this young manager is really something.

Julian Nagelsmann.

Another young exciting German coach. And he is only 29 years old!! The youngest ever Bundesliga manager!

He just won the Bundesliga manager of the year as well.

Too bad his arguably two most important players Sule and Rudy will be joining Bayern next season.

Erm, both of them is different in term of playing style. Origi mainly for scoring goals. Firmino on the other hand is versatile, he offer much more to the team. I like how he always create the space for Mane and Coutinho, I like how he always trap the opponent for them to mis-pass, I like how he is hardworking in defending.

Now with Mane out injured, we can see either Origi or Sturridge upfront, let's see what can they offer.

Gomez just came back from injury and only had a few games in the league cup until we were knocked out. Never feature again since then.
Klopp was having defensive troubles during his first season in Dortmund but second season he made some tweaks in his formation and developed players like Subotic, Hummels who went on to become really good defenders. I wouldn't mind having Gomez as a backup honestly, if we sign a top CB, having Lovren and Gomez as backup would be pretty decent.
Don't mind having Klavan as 4th choice, just don't think the player would want that, he's not getting any younger haha.

Without Mane we'll honestly fxcked, he's very direct and his speed is crucial for us to open up defends. If Firmino would be to shifted to RW it would honestly slow us a lot down, would prefer Coutinho on RW and perhaps Origi on LW, Firmino up front. (Coutinho played RW for Brazil last week if I'm not mistaken).
Good news is we'll probably have Sturridge on the bench so he's a great option to have, can swap with either front 3 later on in the game if needed.

With Origi he doesn't have the footballing intelligence like Firmino. Origi is good, but he can be really frustrating to watch at times, I remember few games ago he started up front and I remembered him losing every single aerial duel in that game. He's not smart enough to use his body wisely, or make decisions faster to unlock defence (like making quick passes). He's still young though and has a lot more to learn.

Yes and in those few matches he didn't do well at all is what I'm saying. If he struggles even against lower league teams what more against top flight opponents. He simply isn't ready yet.

That's a myth. You could argue that he developed Subotic but it was at Mainz from which he followed Klopp into Dortmund. But is he a really good defender? There's a reason why he no longer was a first choice after a couple of seasons. He was no longer good enough as Dortmund's level got higher which suggests that he really is just an above average player in an overachieving team before he eventually got replaced. As for Hummels, he was already playing in Dortmund's first team when Klopp arrived and he was highly rated too. It wouldn't be fair to suggest that Klopp was the key influence in "developing" him when he was already there in the first team from day one.

that was stupid backpass from gigi...robin hood mode on?