You owned the Premium CVT, how is the pick-up with FULL LOAD. I'm asking because I read a complaint about it being "under-powered" by a Premium owner. The other variants owners (including me) didn't noticed it.

Talk about "under-powered" - long, long ago I bought the C200 (brand new - the one with rectangular headlights). Got very good review. 2000cc yet from standstill at the road side, it didn't have the acceleration power to slip into the main traffic! My Saga (multi-value, 1st generation) didn't have such problem! How do I know the C200 was heavy? It makan tayar! How the FC? Want to show-off and then worried about FC? Sold the C200 and stick with the Saga for the next 20 years!

Back then I didn't know about Power to Weight Ratio (PWR). Only recently I learned it from one of Pualtan article.

I think the PWR affect both the FC and the acceleration power. LOL when I read Carsifu review "Toyota Innova, the smooth-er operator - Don’t bother to floor the accelerator, it’s just not going to impress"! Similar to my previous C200?

My style of driving is like the tips you gave - smooth, no jerks, no syok. Most of the time the ECO light is on.

I can see that most of us are concerned with the FC. Not a surprise due to our financial bracket.

According to Carsifu -> At a constant 90kph, the new Persona is 10% (automatic transmission) and 13% (manual transmission) more fuel efficient compared with its predecessor.
Yes you are right - New and old persona are almost the same FC. Nothing to shout about because in the 1st place, old persona FC is bad. So, 10-13% less bad, is still bad!

We've to accept the fact that Persona is a heavy car - nice for highway driving.

This post has been edited by oldgoat: Mar 10 2017, 04:59 PM

Is it not the water pump (like the radiator fan) is controlled by the temp sensor? On high speed, the radiator is cool down by the wind that hit it and therefore the water pump (like the radiator fan) is switched off to prolong its lifespan? Just asking to clear my doubt.

This post has been edited by oldgoat: Mar 10 2017, 09:08 PM

Good feedback.

My long held theory is that the strong wind buffing the radiator in particular and the engine block in general is more efficient in dispersing the heat generated thus causing the temp bar to drop.

Maybe the engine temp tolerance range is within those 2 to 3 bars thus nothing to worry about? Maybe the temp gauge just indicate the radiator temp and not about the internal combustion chamber which should be controlled by spark plugs?

As an owner, I too would like to know more about the temp gauge.

Could you kindly ask the SA about the Temp Bar dropping from 3 to 2 when on high speed. Will it hurt the engine?

Everlasting love if you can report back to us.

The fuel indicator reading is not liner. Once it drop to 3 bars, it means SOON you'll be making the petrol station owner laughing all the way to the bank. 2 bars mean VERY SOON and 1 bar is asking you to get ready your credit card. The fuel icon flashing you? Drive straight to the nearest police station to make a harrasement report. Today Sunday lah!

You have decided to buy Persona but not sure which variant to get?

Old Goat here invited 3 Car Reviewer Specialists namely Me, Myself and I to give their concise, honest and impartial opinions regarding Persona various variants.

And also a car thief (CT) to grade the various variants. Yes, your read it right. Who else is more interested in other people cars? You think he simply go and steal any Cap Ayam cars? And also some GF.....

Premium CVT - Pros: Semua ada
Cons: Semua problems pun ada
GF: What ??? You got Persona??? I thought you said Perdana!!!
CT: 1 thumb-up. Sorry about that, Bezza got the 2 thumps-up.

Executive CVT - Pros: Saved RM60K-RM56K = RM4K
Cons: Least popular
GF: What ??? You paid RM6K (RM56K-RM50K) for 8 stupid Adds-on? RM6K divided by 8 = RM750 each!!! Everyday you carry sugarcanes??? And everyday you need to use the front fog lamps??? And .... And ....
CT: Thumb-down

Standard CVT - Pros: Saved RM60K-RM50K = RM10K. Got moola to change roda (wheel). Clever boy!
Cons: No this, no that
GF: You no money say so lah
CT: Middle finger

Standard 5MT - Pros: Paradise for those who must "main kayu" and "goncang kaki"
Cons: Wife keeps complaining about the reverse placement of the signal/wiper control sticks
GF: Now you no hand to "more-more cha-cha", huh???
CT: Four letters word

Verdict: Change GF and make Old Goat persona nan grata!

Note - OG owned the Prestigious Award Winning Middle-finger one.

Last week there was also a quarry about kruk kruk sound when braking. And now you mentioned it too. Maybe brake problems are now starting to appear.

I didn't hear any funny noise when braking or reversing, whether on slope or on level ground.

If you now feel your car is behaving differently as compare when you first took delivery of your car, I would suggest you send it back to SC for checking. Brake wise, do it ASAP because brake failure is a serious matter.

I know it is a hassle to go to SC but don't go to an unauthorized workshop to avoid getting your car warranty voided.

What brand is that? Too lazy to google.

Oh nevermind, it is Continental.

This post has been edited by oldgoat: Mar 12 2017, 07:50 PM

Yours is MT? Boss also drive MT? Whereas most of us drive CVT.

It ls stated that at constant 90kph, MT use less fuel than CVT.

So, do we have to take this into consideration when comparing FC?

1) The manual also say that you need to take into consideration the number of passengers and the car boot load. I just pump it to 220 all round and hope the stock tyres can go botak sooner so I can tell wife, wife, tyres already botak, can change or not?

2) When on slope, HSA kick-in when the pedal brake is pressed. I read somewhere that hand brake is not counted but I have not tried it. The car won't gostan if you press the gas pedal with 2-3 second after you released the foot brake.

3) Depend on the slope gradient.

4) The 12v socket in front of the CVT should be able to support the phone charger. Brand wise, it all depend on what the shop carried but don't buy cheap, cheap. I intend to go to Lowyat to get one.

5) Can't answer you.

Hi, how every thing? Did they treat your new wife with due respect?
Did they manage to make her stop making noise? You know, malu lah when she moans and groans in front of everyone!

You should name the car "Susanna" - this song is sang by "The Art Company".

When you spend quality time vacationing at SC, you can scream "Why me, why..., Susah-na, Susah-na, I'm crazy loving you"!

SC would understand.

Kindly forward your complaint to Encik Abdul Rashid Musa, the new CEO of Proton Edar Sdn Bhd which is involved in the distribution of Proton cars and providing sales and after sales services to customers.

I read somewhere that they will be concentrating on after sales services to customers ......

500 ringgit for the Power retractable wing mirror or just the Normal retractable wing mirror?