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SUSyklooi
post Dec 25 2017, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(willwen @ Dec 25 2017, 06:32 PM)
yalah, step 2 is where the agent usually scare me about 20% annual inflation and why I need 1 million annual limit....

Ignoring budget, I think I only need to upgrade when my cover is not sufficient for present needs.

I see no point to over coverage (in anticipation of $1 million hospital bill in 2047) even if my budget permits, unless you guarantee that I can lock in a lower premium now. But as far as I understand, the insurance charges will always go up with age anyway, no matter when you start, so I don't see the point of buying into high limits so early. That's my perception... open to debate...
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If you did not take the highest possible coverage now (since you hv no problem with budget) and if there is any claim till 2047 (the year you wanted to upgrade).....they may exclude that coverage or increase the premium to cover that....
earlier post you mentioned abt doing your own investment.....how much can you make from investnent that can outdo the cost of a cancer treatment?
Jusr a thought that i hv....

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post Oct 20 2018, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Oct 20 2018, 04:17 PM)
Any opinions?
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you prefer the "As Charged"?
if you like it more than those that stated the value,....then,....my opinion is just go to those that you liked more...
Btw, have you compare other things too?



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post Oct 20 2018, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Oct 20 2018, 04:42 PM)
The rest if it I think the plan is better than Prudential's. It's just the outpatient benefits that bother me a bit.
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if you needed that much for outpatient treatment....the you or the doctors "may" suggests that you stays hospitalized......
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post Oct 21 2018, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Oct 21 2018, 11:42 AM)
for person who has depression, which insurance company will still accept?
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googled and got this....
Insurers have been accused of depriving access to life insurance and other kinds of cover to people with depression and anxiety, even for physical conditions unrelated to their mental health.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/ja...insurance-cover

more in
https://www.google.com/search?ei=kvbLW7u0EY.....0.rcgP0ts-UGA


is depression under mental disorder?

if yes,...then this is an example...

This policy excludes any one of the following which is caused by or due to:
m) Psychotic, mental or nervous disorders, (including any neuroses and their physiological or psychosomatic manifestations);

https://www.aig.my/content/dam/aig/apac/mal...calcare-pds.pdf


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post Oct 21 2018, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Oct 21 2018, 12:09 PM)
exclude  meaning that the insurance co will still accept, I am talking about upfront reject, not even taking any ppl with mental illness!
Our consumer movement is strong as in advance country, insurance co can impose a lot of thing which benefit them and still we have to accept.
In this case, insurance co should be making a lot of money because they are always protected by our weak consumer right
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i think
exclusion mean...any things that are claimed if related to it will be rejected.
if it the claim is not caused in any way due to depression...then it is claimable.

thus for me, it will not be an upfront rejection.....
but again, who am i to claim it to be so.....especially in forums.
may i suggest you write to insurance company to get confirmed and latest info.

The Link Between Depression and Other Mental Illnesses
https://www.webmd.com/depression/guide/link...tal-illnesses#1

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post Oct 22 2018, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Oct 22 2018, 10:27 PM)
Can you all comment on my policy, Pru med value:
wife (38 years):
rm220/month
1mil Annual limit, after that copay Pru 80% owner 20%
rm100 R&B
10k life

husband (45 years):
rm290/month
1mil Annual limit, after that copay Pru 80% owner 20%
rm100 R&B
10k life
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sorry, cannot commend but can ask.....
the RM100 R&B will it be too little?
also the premium amount...will it continue to rise according to age ranges?
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post Oct 23 2018, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Oct 23 2018, 08:39 AM)
r&b i plan to topup if want to stay in better room, my plan is to make is as low as possible the total premium while putting emphasize on medical,
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QUOTE(gedebe @ Oct 23 2018, 08:40 AM)
this premium is ILP and if use min projection on return of investment, it will last until 78 years without topup.
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thanks for the input & response....

hmm.gif if with 20% co payment....if claim RM1 mil...RM200k will have to be borne sweat.gif

not sure if this is applicable to your plan....
saw this on a fine print of a plan in the web....

"We shall only reimburse Reasonable and Customary Charges on eligible expenses which are deemed Medically Necessary".
thus maybe >200k?

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post Oct 23 2018, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Oct 23 2018, 08:51 AM)
If claim exceed 1 million, then we pay 80% u pay 20%
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thus have to have 200k in hand too.... sweat.gif

plus not sure if this is applicable to your plan....
saw this on a fine print of a plan in the web....

"We shall only reimburse Reasonable and Customary Charges on eligible expenses which are deemed Medically Necessary".
thus maybe >200k?

".....then we pay 80% u pay 20%".....
sorry, the we means insurance comapny, thus the we means you represent that company?



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post Oct 23 2018, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Oct 23 2018, 09:08 AM)
for the clause, I assume this is normal as they won't pay for vitamin etc
the we is insurance co.
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seems like you are well prepared for this plan thumbsup.gif
just a reminder of this 20%++ thing...remember to have some money prepared for those in your household financial planning worksheet then.

no other things to ask....will keep lurking to see if others got "comments" or "questions" for you.

on a side note:
hmm.gif when the doctors said something that is good to have....have to ask them if each and everyone of those "are deemed Medically Necessary"...if does not want the insurance company refuse reimbursement doh.gif doh.gif

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