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 Insurance Talk V4!, Anything and everything about Insurance

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chiahau
post Jun 12 2017, 01:44 PM

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Hi guys, just a little curious bout insurance.

IF I want a life insurance policy that payouts a minimum of MYR 1 mil upon death / accident / similar, what is the expected rate of premium per annum?

And would it be possible to pair the life insurance with another insurance ( Medical or similar ) for critical illness or similar sort of conditions?

If age matters, below 30, healthy as a fiddle according latest medical checkup. I'm a paper pusher in office, so no risk of being involved in workplace accident if that matters.

Apologies if my question seems very broad. I have yet to do my studies on insurance except for mortgages tongue.gif

This post has been edited by chiahau: Jun 12 2017, 01:45 PM
chiahau
post Jun 12 2017, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 12 2017, 01:48 PM)
Lol you've finally came to ask about insurance rather than dealing with just mortgage.

The rates depends on your age, gender, occupation and also whether you smoke or not.

And yes you can pair it with medical card or critical illness benefit depending on the amount you want to cover it will dictate your premium. You'll have to decide on how much you want to cover for your critical illness amount and what room and Board and the annual limit you're looking for in the Medical Card.
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Age : Below 30
Gender : Obvious
Occupation : Kuli / Consultant
Smoke : Never

Am roughly looking for the following :-

Life - MYR 1,000,000.00 coverage minimum.

Medical - CI MYR 1,000,000.00 ( Is that normal? ). Annual Limit I am not sure as my parents are gomen servant. Status Quo for now since I can get medical care in hospitals for very low rate. Perhaps you can give a general recommendation on that.
chiahau
post Jun 13 2017, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jun 12 2017, 11:53 PM)
For critical illness, my pov la, since i have been through 2 relatives who kena but they both didn't buy.

At this point in time, i feel 1 million is alot la. Hospitalisation aside, the cost comes from the long term nursing care instead. Also example, if say cancer chemo, actually all these would be covered under medical card. If someone kena stroke, cost of hosp is not as high compared to soneone doing chemo, but long term care is more demanding, etc. Just stating a few of my personal experience. (Lung cancer and stroke)

To answer your question, 1mil for critical illness is not normal, probably cause it's too expensive and ppl may not afford it. Early critical illness cover while more expensive actually covers diseases you can claim. The normal critical illness cover, is like the person already one feet in the casket, then only can claim. I am not qualified to provide recommendation on amount but try to maybe get quotes from agents, compare the cost if you lower down the ci amount. Unsure of your budget and affordability, i think you won't really buy the policy once you know how mch 1mil ci cover costs.  rclxub.gif

Also, instead of thinking buying 1mil sum assured, try to reverse and calculate, example, how much will hospital treatment cost? Helpers? Nursing? Physio? 5k a month, is it enough for rehab?
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Actually, my intentions were never for the CI insurance payout to be used for the treatments and rehabilitations per say.

I plan to claim it to discharge all, if not most of whatever's left of my properties under encumbrance and what's left of the money for me to enjoy what little time I have left on this planet.

I believe I need to kick the bucket literally ( touch wood ) to claim the life insurance right? I can claim the CI 1st while enjoying what's left of my time?

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 13 2017, 02:28 AM)
Hi chiahau,

my reply as per above. wink.gif by the way the CI you meant is referring to medical coverage needed to treat CI? or a lump sum payout to replace your income?
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Replace income / Settle debts / Enjoy life before kaput.
chiahau
post Jun 13 2017, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jun 13 2017, 08:52 AM)
Haha. interesting point of view. if that's the case, then it makes sense. Just FYI. there are 2 types of CI cover that MAY be available, subject to the company, but things aren't always as flexible as you want them to be.

You can opt for accelerating CI cover. Example: Death/TPD: 2mil, CI 500k. In this case, if kena CI, get 500. Then die, then get the balance which is 2mil - 500k. 1.5mil.

Or you pay a bit more you will get the additional amount. Ie, CI get 500k, Death/TPD get 2mil. Note, obviously the one above is cheaper la. depends on what you want.

Add-on: I played around, assuming 30 y/o non-smoker, RM400-500 per month do-able for investment-linked policy (1mil death, 1mil CI and considering my company is charges are not cheap) but 20-30 years down the road, the policy may not have enough money to cover the cost. but by then, i think your debts would be lower, and well, things will change then, mana tahu.
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Honestly, can't do much once you kena CI one. I can waste the money delaying the inevitable, or I can do something with it.

Better to have 3 good months with family than 3 long depressing years.

My duties at the very least would be to clear my debt so that my future kids won't have to inherit my problems / bad investments and etc.

400-500+ sounds very reasonable in my point of view.

Let me do more research on this matter.

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 13 2017, 09:58 AM)
biggrin.gif interesting point of view that no one I've met came up with this yet on discharging all the properties under encumbrance.

Well you can almost safe to say that if you can claim for Critical Illness, there is almost a high chance you'll kick the bucket soon after you made the claim.
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If I don't discharge it, end up also someone would have to pay for it.

My style of investment maybe not ngam for my spouse / kids. That's why I rather clear all the debts on my side and let them deal with the assets the way they see fit. If want sell, then go ahead. Dead already can't be bothered tongue.gif



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