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rcantona7
post Mar 9 2018, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(000022 @ Mar 9 2018, 11:29 AM)
Just wanted to see what response will I get based on my situation.

I bought my life and medical pretty early, just as I started working. Been a couple of years. Since then, I've had two surgeries for my nose:

1) Sinusitis surgery ( removal of polyps )
2) 2 years later, a septoplasty for correcting deviated septum and turbinate surgery  for reducing my swollen nasal turbinates

What I'm trying to understand is that, since I've undergone surgery twice for my nose, does that mean, if I ever do attempt to top-up / extension on my existing insurance plan, or move to another ( if it even makes sense at this point ), what would generally be the response from the insurance companies?

Would they come up with a clause about insuring everything except my nose and anything pertaining to it? This isnt exactly a critical illness or a hereditary disease, seems pretty 'common', but what should I be careful about now, that I have a medical surgery record?
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If your old plan is an old plan with annual/lifetime limit capped and you Wish to upgrade your medical card you can request your current agent to write an endorsement request and from there we can know if there will be any exclusion in your New upgraded card or is it allowable. Your agent can do that. ask him is better than asking in here.

If you cant upgrade then you might consider
1.maintain the old card and get a second card from another insurer to cover all illness except for your nose if there is exclusion.

2.. to get another company agent to quote you a New policy and declare your past surgeries and hope there will be no exclusion for your medical card.if there is no exclusion then you can maintain 1 card only.There will be 14 days free look period from the date your policy is issued.Then you can decide to take up the plan with/without exclusion or have 100% refund of your Premium less medical report fees.

This post has been edited by rcantona7: Mar 9 2018, 05:12 PM
rcantona7
post Mar 12 2018, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Mar 12 2018, 11:36 AM)
hasn't been reviewing my own policies for the past couple of years.

to those who have just did recently. what's the best package that you can find in town?

gonna do it soon.
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Prudential Medical Card
-No Annual Limit/ No lifetime Limit
-Non Cancellable
- Will not terminate if your claims exceed med value point as Prudential will still pay 80% and you pay 20% of your total bill
- 11 Maternity complication benefits
- Medical cover up to age 100
- Day Care Procedure - Save time and go home
- Outpatient Cancer and Kidney covers up to 1.5 million : covers take home drug, consultation fees , Examination Test.
-Emergency treatment of outpatient Injury
- Home Nursing Care
-Prosthesis/Wheelchair Allowance / Overseas Companion Allowance ( cover 1 way return flight ticket for 1 immediate family members and required to stay for at least 10 days due to accident)


There are other new plans as well to cover baby even before birth ; mother and baby smile.gif

Yeah its a great idea that you should review your plan annually. Medical checkup and Financial checkup is good to make sure you have a peace of mind all the time.

This post has been edited by rcantona7: Mar 12 2018, 10:50 PM
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post Mar 12 2018, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(pg84 @ Mar 12 2018, 10:07 PM)
Im planning to get medical card for my kids age below 7. As i dun want to strain my finance ,Wats the cheapest plan available ? I just want effective coverage in case of huge hospitalization bills . Wat i know is those yearly burn type , those with investment . How about takaful ?
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For children is class 2. About RM150 can get 1 good medical card. IF you want to plan for his education fund too you can add in savings and will payout cheque when he reach a certain age. Yearly burn as in term medical is not advisable because it is a STEP Premium plan without any cash value(rebate). You can apply for conventional plan and invest in islamic fund to get the best benefits. Never go for the cheapest plan because the reason you get insurance is firstly you need to ask yourself. How much will insurance pay me if one get Cancer ?

Plan 150 - 10k Critical Illness
Plan 200 - 100k Critical Illness

Extra RM50 for another 90k protection. If one apply insurance and diagnosed with critical illness but insurance cant help, then whats the point of getting insurance? other than medical coverage.
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post Mar 14 2018, 05:18 AM

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QUOTE(labtec @ Mar 13 2018, 11:59 PM)
my AIA agent told me that this Investment-Linked Insurance plan is very good and only some people are offered to purchase. This Plan will also be withdraw at 1st April 2018. Is the plan really good?

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if you can commit to the payment terms ( 5,10 or 20 years) of course its good to create a legacy to your loved ones. if u have concern about plan that will be withdrawn, it might be due to plan benefits are too good and therefore the fund cannot sustain the claims or the company is coming out with a new plan to replace the old one. frankly speaking if you have not much savings its good to create a protection for your family and spend your monthly salary with a peace of mind without worrying to have save anything for them if anything happens. nod.gif
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post Mar 16 2018, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(DozeMeWithTea @ Mar 15 2018, 05:23 PM)
What's the difference between LifeLink and PruLife ready? I am paying RM200 each.

Am i paying too much or?
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Dear you,

Insurance premium is not about the money that you pay, its about the benefits that you want to attain for a peace of mind for etc an income replacement. A family living expenses responsibilities and such. You need a good agent to review both your policies and give u on a neutral point of advice. I guess your age around 22-24, RM 200 is not too much unless your salary is below RM2k.
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post Mar 18 2018, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(yahiko @ Mar 16 2018, 03:05 PM)
what the meaning of GIO
Guaranteed Issuance Offer - A special offer to selected existing client to buy/top up LIFE insurance without having to go for medical checkup even if they are senior citizen. The database will be selected from healthy existing customer with no major health history and premium paid on a timely manner.

anyway.. is there another insurance cover for pre existing disease?
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Insurers normally will not cover major health illness but they can still try to apply after more than 5 years and above of recovery. They will not cover pre existing but at least still cover others. For minor pre-existing illness other than 36 critical illness company will imply a loading to your premium if the underwriter feel its risky to insure you. It means you pay alot more up to double times a standard healthy person would pay for the premium

QUOTE(SureshG @ Mar 16 2018, 08:44 PM)
IT's not actually true. An agent won't give you a neutral point of view. For example, an agent from Company X won't give you neutral advise if a product from Company B is actually better.
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Yes you are right. But for your info , some doctors have more than 20 policies which require a really professional agent to review and summarize everything for them without bashing and putting down other company. We do not practice hard selling and bashing others company.

QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 17 2018, 10:46 AM)
May I know if it is necessary to still buy travel insurance when we travel IF we have already bought medical insurance that covers medical treatment overseas on a reimbursement basis which include repatriation costs? Is travel insurance normally cash-free or also on reimbursement basis?
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Yes you can consider getting travel insurance if you want to get the following coverage for :

Physical Therapy benefit
Emergency Dental benefit
Emergency Reunion benefit
Political Evacuation benefit
Natural Disaster benefit
Common Carrier Accidental Death benefit
Accidental Death and Dismemberment benefit
Crisis Response benefit
Trip Interruption benefit
Travel Delay benefit
Lost Checked Luggage benefit
Personal Liability benefit


QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 17 2018, 10:46 AM)
IF we have already bought medical insurance that covers medical treatment overseas on a reimbursement basis which include repatriation costs?

In Prudential we have a Rider called Pru Acci Guard and Pru Acci Income. The benefits are :
- Accidental Death & Disablement Benefit
- Enchanced compassionate allowance benefit
- Double indemnity for travelling in any mechanically propelled public conveyance
-traditional & complimentary treatment

PruAcci Med
- Overseas Companion Allowance
1. Return ticket ( economy class) for 1 of the immediate family to visit life assured hospitalized in overseas for at least 10 days due to Accident
2.One-way ticket (economy class) for life assured to return to Malaysia immediately after hospitalization
-Reimburse up to 50% of the sum Assured per accident





QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 18 2018, 12:21 PM)
I am thinking of getting own medical insurance but with deductible option so that premium is cheaper. This is just a back up for my employer's medical insurance. My question is: normally, in the event I become unemployed later, or retrenched due to falling ill, can I then take out the deductible option of my own medical card and go for full cashless card at that time? Meaning, can I revert back to full cashless card without deductible?

And also, even if I do not revert back to full cashless, isn't it still quite OK if I do not mind paying my own bills up till 10k to 20k but if disaster like leukemia happens, I am still insured against those monstrous medical bill like over 200k to 300k maybe?

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Yes you could get deductible for cheaper premium but as i said many times, cheaper premium have consequences make sure your agent be very honest and tell you everything then from there you may decide if you want to go for that option . But be aware that if there is any claim after you retired from your employment the deductible cost will be on yourself. You should discuss with your agent and come out with the best benefit for yourself.

QUOTE(Genghis Khan @ Mar 18 2018, 03:06 PM)
Hi there, I would like to seek your opinion.

I've been offered an insurance plan which consists of the following:
Life Insurance - RM500k coverage - investment linked
Medical Insurance - RM1 million coverage
Critical Insurance

Total premium is around RM550 per month. Is this abit too much?
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It seems that you do not really understand what are your needs yet. The reason people get life insurance is because insurance is the best leverage u can get. You pay a small amount of premium and you get a HUGE protection instantly. Lets make a simple way of calculation for your understanding.

500,000 divide by 550 = 909 times of payment
909 / 12 = 75 years

Lets say you are age 28 and you would need 75 years which you are 103 years old to achieve that savings of Rm500k for your family.
But if you pay Rm550, you instantly create a protection for your family. So comparing RM550 is too much for RM500k you can be the judge for yourself.

Another good thing is that, when you have created this legacy for your family.. you can spend your epf with a peace of mind because you have done something and need not need to specially saved all your epf/savings for your family.


QUOTE(jfleong @ Mar 18 2018, 07:51 PM)
I have employer covered insurance now, makes no sense for me to buy one myself
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Let me share you one of my client who is having a heart problem.
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The total bill is RM13k not counting follow ups treatment. He have to fork out RM3k from his own pocket but luckily he has his own medical policy to do the reimbursement which he has paid himself. The things that we may concerned is that after his company`s insurance paid the 10k does he still have company medical coverage? Is he still fit to apply for other medical insurance if he doesnt have his own personal medical yet. What if recurrence of the same illness? Its very important to have own medical insurance. You should get a proper and comprehensive insurance if you can afford it. If you still cannot make decision, just think about if " I ask you to take out your spare Tyre from your car " Then the feeling is the same for your personal medical card because the spare tyre ( company insurance) does not belong to you for permanent biggrin.gif and it may lost when there is retrenchment, resignation,retirement or the day you become your own boss. But with having your own personal medical means you would not be afraid of the limits because prudential have no annual/ lifetime limit and it is NON-Cancellable.


This post has been edited by rcantona7: Mar 19 2018, 02:36 AM
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post Jul 20 2018, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Feb 21 2017, 10:41 AM)
Bro, the same policies still exist right now...

Yes, ILP is a great structure, transparent, cost-coverage is amazing.

Maybe pay a bit more attention, put in a bit more necessary effort, get things right, and practice the ethics that you sometimes preach here for no reason?  shakehead.gif
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i agreed on this sentence bro ! Fyi , he did reported me to Prudential about my post in facebook last November. When he lost debate he will take it personally and attack your facebook that is all i know. Maybe he wants to be an upright citizen getting attention by preaching and condemn other agents`s comments.

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