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JIUHWEI
post Jul 5 2018, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 5 2018, 08:57 AM)
Oh sorry, I can go overboard at times when I am explaining things. The question that you asked can only be answered by him; but I covered the pros/cons of shorter/longer life insurances anyway. Illustrations and fundamentals are always important for the client. Have a great day ahead.
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Thank you for understanding the question now, and who it was for. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 5 2018, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 5 2018, 09:12 AM)
Fixed it for your future reference. Have a great day rclxms.gif
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What a good little helper you are thumbsup.gif
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post Jul 31 2018, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(rcantona7 @ Jul 20 2018, 01:44 PM)
i agreed on this sentence bro ! Fyi , he did reported me to Prudential about my post in facebook last November. When he lost debate he will take it personally and attack your facebook that is all i know. Maybe he wants to be an upright citizen getting attention by preaching and condemn other agents`s comments.
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What was this about?
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post Aug 27 2018, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Aug 26 2018, 11:54 AM)
A lot of ILP fund is down
For example
https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/ALZEQYF:MK

YTD down for 5%

The money inside ur ILP is down for 5% thus it will affect future cash value to will be use to cover the increase of COI
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It basically means that the fund performance this year so far is down 5%.

While yes, the units deducted to cover this year's COI is deducted at the current value,
our premiums to buy those units also result in us buying more units at the current value. console.gif

But then again, though the name "investment-linked life insurance", it is not and should not be considered as your investment vehicle.
Take a good look at the Life sum insured, the riders, and ask yourself "what do they mean to me? How are these helping me do what I want to do?"

This post has been edited by JIUHWEI: Aug 27 2018, 06:37 PM
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post Oct 30 2018, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(mark_hew @ Oct 24 2018, 05:26 PM)
Dear all,

Can I ask your opinion and suggestion on this insurance policy?

My dad is thinking about switching his insurance to Great Eastern.

He is 66 years old non smoker.

His policy is as follows:
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Can I ask your opinion on the following:

1. Is the insurance coverage sufficient?
2. Is the premium for a 66 years old reasonable at 541.70?
3. What is Great Saver Rider?

The agent said this is some kind of deposit. Only need to pay 20 years. And the paid amount will be refunded upon death.
I am really not familiar with insurance so would really appreciate your advise and comments.

Thanks in advance!
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I believe at 66, nobody will dare to ask your dad to switch insurers, especially medical insurance.
Because we don't know:
1. his medical history
2. his claim history

What we're afraid of:
1. incontestability period
2. Waiting period
3. non-declaration

There really is no such thing as good or no good.
Reason being the medical service providers are all the same, and each and every company pays in MYR.

There is also no such thing as being "overcharged" in such a heavily regulated industry.
It is a fear created and propagated by the bad apples within the industry in an effort to paint others black.

So let's look at what is real and what is true:
1. Your dad already has medical insurance.
2. Your dad is best to stick with a provider that ALREADY covers him.
3. Your dad needs that medical insurance.

Why not stay the course and let the current company do what it says it will do?

I acknowledge that the premium figure may be cause for concern.
I am not looking down on that figure at all.
But if you ask me, knowing what I know, I will just pay it.

Every agent here wants your business.
But I think everybody in their right minds and right conscience will tell you the same thing I am telling you.

Whats more valuable that covered amount is that the company says "we are accepting your proposal".
Take it.
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post Oct 31 2018, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Oct 30 2018, 06:31 PM)
You're back...
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Yeah brah.

Kind of recovered from my mom's passing. sad.gif
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post Nov 2 2018, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Nov 1 2018, 05:04 PM)
Which one makes morr sense? Either take ILP and medical fron separate insurers (1 ILP with Insurer X, and 1 medical standalone from Insurer Y) or both from same insurer?
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What do you think?

ILP has some funds to feed the cost of insurance for trivial events like an expired credit card;
while a standalone medical lapses within 30 days grace period.

If you ask me, I would just go with ILP.
But that's just my personal opinion.
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post Nov 2 2018, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Oct 31 2018, 01:35 PM)
My condolences.

Nothing can replace a mother's hug and love.
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I think of her every day..

It's really very tough emotionally.

I thought I was already numb to it with the number of funerals I attended all these years (dad's clients)...
But I was a complete mess for a long time.

Just very thankful to all the friends and family as well as the service providers keeping me and my dad and siblings together.

Nobody asked but I do have my regrets.
I regret not hugging my mom more,
I regret I didn't buy her flowers more often,
I regret not being able to locate the theresa tang cassette album she likes,
I really really miss going to the wet market with her, and the dinners we had together.
I wish we took more pictures together too.

I can't look at my childhood pictures the same anymore...
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post Nov 3 2018, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Nov 3 2018, 12:58 AM)
Thanks for the reply, but I am not comparing standalone vs ILP, but asking to get both from the same insurer better or get from two separate insurers between?
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It doesn't make a difference, really.

If you have a preference, you can go with your personal preference.

[Personal Opinion]
I believe many here share my personal opinion on the matter..
That is, it really doesn't matter which company(s) you go with.
Your experience with any and all companies will only be as good as the servicing agent's services.

So if you have a particularly good friend/family member that is currently servicing your insurance needs, go with him/her!


[A bit more]
My experience dealing with my clients who asked the same question, is that the question really sounds like this:

"Do insurers communicate medical histories with each other?"

The answer is NO. It is your private data, so no sharing unless otherwise permitted by you.

However, while insurers keep your data to themselves, your medical history at any and all licensed and registered medical facilities in Malaysia is safe with the Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia, as well as all local medical facilities for a minimum of 7 years.

If medical history is a concern, I suggest you have this discussion with your current agent (or an agent you trust) to look for the most feasible solution, considering the realities of the day. thumbsup.gif

May not be ideal but it is definitely better than nothing.
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post Nov 8 2018, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Nov 6 2018, 07:20 PM)
Thanks very much, kind Sir! I understood the explanations, more so on the need to find good servicing agents, and on the point that insurers do not communicate medical histories with each other.

My concerns in going with the same insurers are as follows:
1- My current servicing agent is good - but he may leave the business (who can predict the future, eh?) and I may be left with a lousy agent

2- On the exclusion part - diff insurer would have different interpretation on what is 'reasonable and customary' - So if I opt for separate insurers, what may not be imbursed by 1 insurer may be imbursable by another insurer

3- premium payment - Not too sure if this is valid - but some insurers increased their premium should the insured claimed? But some don't. So with diff insurers, I may be have the advantage of determining to which company I should charge the claim for.
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1. Maybe your continuous support for him is what will keep him in the business forever? thumbsup.gif

2. I think that is what's reasonable and customary I believe is with accordance with KKM.

3. The cost of insurance rises with age (after age 15), that's fact. But insurers increasing premium with excessive claims only applies to group insurance (ie: company buy medical insurance to cover their staff). Otherwise, the bigger name insurers either stick with their respective standalone medical insurance premium schedules (and will announce if they will hike the rate beyond the schedule), or if you're on an investment-linked policy, the premiums should remain unchanged under normal circumstances.
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post Nov 12 2018, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(22 @ Nov 11 2018, 01:24 PM)
Just recently, I've been told that AIA's med plus medical card rider is conditional renewal on each policy year? In the sense that the insurer has the right to not continue insuring? As opposed to PRU's guaranteed renewal and non cancelable.

However, upon going through my sub contract policy for med plus under the renewal portion, it does state that it is conditional renewable subject to terms and conditions of termination of Supplementary Contract Provisions, on each policy anniversary of the basic policy,  by  payment of cost of insurance by the insured at a rate fixed by us (the insurer) at the time of renewal.

this I interpret as, if I continue payment, then I am surely given a renewal, although the cost of insurance is not guaranteed and this might be modified by the insurer.

Isnt this the same for all policies? that as long as your premium is continually financed, then you will be given a renewal until maturity of policy? Is there something I am missing here?
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As long as your premium is paid, the company will renew till maturity of policy. You are right.
There was indeed an update on the wording, which was also sent out to all policy holders in the form of a letter a couple years back.

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