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rain_wolf
post Jul 26 2017, 08:45 PM

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Hey all. Newbie here, just created my FSM account. I'm planning to apply for the Regular Saving Plan (RSP). But I'm not sure which one to go with. I want to buy the CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND, but it's not available without putting the minimum initial investment tho. Any advice for me?
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post Jul 27 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(rain_wolf @ Jul 26 2017, 08:45 PM)
Hey all. Newbie here, just created my FSM account. I'm planning to apply for the Regular Saving Plan (RSP). But I'm not sure which one to go with. I want to buy the CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND, but it's not available without putting the minimum initial investment tho. Any advice for me?
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Anyone can guide me with this? Or is it just better to just buy with the minimum initial investment and then top up every month, since it is not that high?
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post Jul 27 2017, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 27 2017, 05:04 PM)
Got budget then buy minimum investment then can top up any time (when there is a down trend)

If no budgets,  then RSP and u can top up any amount after it reflect in ur account. (I alway do this one for several UT, seen the minimum investment amount alway at least 1k. @_@)
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Tbh, I can afford to buy the minimum investment of Ponzi 2.0 which is at RM500 and then topup around 200 every month. Just want to make I'm doing the right choice as this is my first time venturing into UT. I'm also still studying, tho have some extra cash to invest.
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post Jul 27 2017, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 27 2017, 07:10 PM)
if I can only afford RM500, and a monthly RSP of RM 200 every month and if it is my first time venturing into UT.....
at RM 200 available, which can only do monthly RSP on 2 funds (min subsequent investment of RM 100 each)
I would select to do RSP on
Kenanga Growth Fund and Affinhwang Select Bond fund

these 2 would be the funds that I would test the water with......
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Just wondering, why Affin hwang select bond fund? it seems to have lower dividend than ASB at 5.96%. Or did I got this wrong? Please enlighten me.
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post Jul 27 2017, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 27 2017, 08:17 PM)
hmm.gif apart from acting as my UT portfolio stabiliser, it is for this performance and no need to try your luck go hunting for ASNB units every month to top up RM 100 of units
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It's ASB, the one for bumis one. Which has unlimited units to be purchased so I can buy it anytime. Is it still worth it tho buying it as asb has 7% dividend last year? I'm trying to diversify my investment.
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post Jul 28 2017, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jul 28 2017, 12:56 AM)
If you want to invest, the solution is obvious
While I advocate not flaming, sometimes cant help it cause how idiotic some replies can be. So I want to reply to you.

While many here share on how bonds stablises the portfolio, also mean that it lowers your potential return. Lower risk, lower return, a fair trade off. But doesnt mean you really have to invest in bond fund. As long as you understand the risk, you can ignore those who say, oh, divide between equity and bond. Nobody knows which combination is better. But make informed decisions on the risk involved. Nobody knows if it is a right choice. Take with a pinch of salt of the comments here.
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Okay got it. Thank you kind sir. notworthy.gif
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post Dec 5 2021, 10:53 PM

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Anyone have any input regarding Maybank Global Sustainable Technology Fund?

Was planning to invest into TA Global Technology Fund initially, then I found the Maybank's fund now I'm contemplating between the two. Looking through their holdings seems pretty similar to me.

TA Global Technology however been around for quite some times already and the performance is really good. Maybank Global Sustainable Technology however only started recently in Jan.
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post Dec 5 2021, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 5 2021, 10:57 PM)
do you want a broader segments funds like TA's or a focused fund like  maybank's?
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I honestly unsure about that part. Mind explaining more about the segment? The differences between those two.
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post Dec 6 2021, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 5 2021, 11:16 PM)
it is in the name of that fund,....Sustainable Technology Fund

thus it should be focused in sustainable tech only.

hmm.gif but then,...they seems to be highly correlated  doh.gif  :confused:
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Ah I see. Should have seen that lol.

But yeah. I’ve looked through the factsheet and they look really similar.
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post Dec 6 2021, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(yycclin @ Dec 6 2021, 11:43 AM)
I hold these 2 funds and the result as below :

                                                                                            ----------%
TA Global Technology Fund                                                ---2 yrs  ---51
Maybank Global Sustainable Technology Fund-MYR Hedged    --- 6 mths    ---9

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rgds.
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What's your thoughts on these two? Based on the historical performance, TA's fund seems to be doing quite well. And the tech market seems to be growing further in the future. The Maybank's fund also not to shabby over the past 6 months that you've shown. Also, what made you to invest in either of the two funds? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


QUOTE(sgh @ Dec 6 2021, 11:45 AM)
I think I share about this before overlapping of the top 5/10 holdings among different funds. In this case obviously you don't need to buy 2 just 1 is enough. Then which one correct? I share my thoughts.

1. This fund X is say fund house Y. Does Y also offer other funds that look promising? If yes fund X ok as I can do intra-switch easily to other funds in same fund house in case fund X drop too badly

2. This fund X min initial and subsequent invest amt. First time buy we tend to be cautious and don't want put too much in. As in we want to test water. FSM Spore latest promotion give us this chance.

3. Historical performance. For new funds there are no past record to refer to so it is more of a higher risk but it can also mean this newbie is promising also.

4. Some newbie fund are just feeder fund to mother fund which has a long history so this newbie is riding on that mother fund. Not exactly a newbie. Look at their expense ratio for feeder fund it should not be too much since their job is easier just put monies and let mother fund do the hard work of picking stocks.

I hope others share their thoughts too.
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Yea thinking of choosing either of the two funds since they both are quite similar.
1. I think I get this. So basically choose a fund from a fund house that offer other funds that are good, in the case of the fund that I chose turn out to not performing well I can easily change. Is this correct?
2. That's the thing, since both initial and subs amount are the same for the two, and at quite a high initial price, making it hard for me to choose. They do however differ in min redemption and min holding tho.
3. The fact that Maybank's fund is relatively new kinda makes it more enticing to me, as it has more room to grow in term of the NAV? (I could be wrong here tho)

Thank you for your thoughts.

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post Dec 6 2021, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Dec 6 2021, 01:36 PM)
1. Similarity - I don't think they are similar in long term. They may look similar if you take a 6 month snap shot. What fund manager A may do to MSFT during $400, 10% holding may be very different to Manager B may do with MSFT during $400, 1% holding.

2. Initial price - WRONG. All you should care is whether the fund grows or not. It is absolutely nothing to do with the price per unit.
3. New fund can grow more? MAYBE. Your fund total NAV is comprised of 10% MSFT ($350 each), 5% Google ($2500) etc. Tell me how a newer fund just because of time of inception can suddenly grow more than another fund who has the same amount of security?
The only way it grows is NOT by you (subscriber or unit holder) buying more. There is an unlimited number of units created as and when new units are purchased. The NAV of each unit grows when the value of the security it holds grows, compared to when you bought it.

Similarly when you sell, it does not impact the value of the unit (at least not by much).

Edit-sorry I used too harsh word...

Edit 2 - on 2nd thoughts, it is sometimes true that a small fund can grow faster than a big fund. I apologize for not thinking through and blurbing out too soon. Mouth goes before the head. But this usually happens with close ended fund. And looking at the securities both funds are trading - probably Not going to happen.
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Thank you for taking your time to answer my queries.
1. Yeah I realised that now. Would need to study and compare more between these two fund houses before I decide.
2. I see.
3. Noted on that. That really put things into perspective. I am sorta stuck with the mindset that if the NAV price goes up, I can sell the units for more money.

Thank you once again!

 

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