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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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lioncarlsberg
post Aug 18 2024, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Jun 13 2024, 11:27 AM)
Finally I got the answer from experience, and would like to share it here. The process to transfer-out from FSM is completely manual as below

1. Print out the transfer-form, fill up together with IC and send it back to the FSM office. Make sure you use a fast postage like NinjaVan or Poslaju. Eta ~2 work days
2. Once FSM received the form, someone will call for verification based on what you had written in the "reason of transfer out". Make sure you have USD $2 / counter filled in the form in your Cash Account (and not the Sweep Account). Eta ~5 work days
3. Once you noticed USD has been deducted from your Cash Account, that's when the start of the position transfer to the DTC. Be prepared for another ~10 work days.
4. Receiving broker will verify the incoming positions. ETA ~5 work days.

Summing up these ETAs, it's no wonder taking 4-6 weeks as listed in their process. 4-6 weeks indeed quite a long process because we could have not wanting to hold on to the positions or missed out the dividend reinvestments offered by the receiving broker.

On the same day, I had also submitted a transfer-out from another broker, the whole process got completed within 2 weeks.

Hopefully this is insightful for those needed the information.
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Since it's such a hassle to transfer, isn't it easier to do an online liquidation? What is the benefit of transfer out to make you prefer to go through the hassle?

lioncarlsberg
post Aug 18 2024, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 18 2024, 08:28 AM)
While waiting for his response,
My wild guess,
Could it be due to the saving?
Will there be transaction cost incurred to liquidate and buy it again?
Will there be forex exchange related cost when having that currency converted during inbound and outbound again?
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There should not be any charges upon liquidation. However, to use the proceeds to then purchase a new batch of funds would incur the sales charges.
lioncarlsberg
post Aug 18 2024, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Aug 18 2024, 08:57 PM)
You're spot on. thumbup.gif
ioncarlsberg
There are charges when liquidating with FSM platform. Not to mention the charges are even higher when I am holding huge positions within FSM. I won't elaborate much on this, please experience the trx on your own.
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Thanks for the heads-up bro. It wouldn't have crossed my mind that there are additional charges when liquidating unit trust funds. It's unheard of! The conventional UT's from the banks like CIMB, Public, etc have no hidden charges upon liquidation. I expect nothing worse from FSM.
lioncarlsberg
post Aug 18 2024, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Apr 25 2024, 07:46 PM)
Not a good idea. I just tested with RM25k for you guys. Once I deposit it convert to USD5202 which is pretty good rate. But the value in RM dropped to around RM24,700. How is this calculated? FSM sell USD back to MYR rate at 4.75. So unless USD increase, I already lost about RM300 on forex alone. That's about 1%. So unless USD rate improve against MYR, I will be making less than putting in Versa.
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Based on your calculation, it shows that the Spread on the currency exchange is about 1% (4.75 Buy and 4.8 Sell). Compare this to Versa or others, what are they charging on the Spread? We should also compare with the actual money changers in Mid Valley. I have checked from one example "Spectrum" it is showing 4.405 Buy and 4.428 Sell, which is much cheaper at about 0.5%

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lioncarlsberg
post May 22 2025, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 22 2025, 12:14 PM)
Abandoned fsm
Go straight to s&p etf tracker.

No fees and higher returns
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(Transfer from Kopitiam topic)

@Avangelice

Can teach the steps? How to buy S&P500 on FSM with no fees?

This post has been edited by lioncarlsberg: May 22 2025, 01:13 PM
lioncarlsberg
post May 22 2025, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 22 2025, 01:29 PM)
Sorry bro. Not on fsm but ikbr but you don't directly buy s&p 500 etf as US tax on div is 30%

So instead you buy an etf tracker for the s&p500 on the London stock exchange that has 15% tax on div

Cspx and Vuaa is two of such etfs. Let's not continue on this thread cuz it's fsm not ikbr
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Is this the IBKR thread? I'll check it out

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4843925/

 

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