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joylay83
post Feb 26 2017, 04:15 AM

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so I went explore the wholesale funds since we are 'qualifed' to invest in it.

Just for discussion sake, Wat do you think of AFFIN HWANG ABSOLUTE RETURN FUND II vs AFFIN HWANG WORLD SERIES - GLOBAL EQUITY FUND - MYR as a wholesale global fund? say if you have MYR 100k, which one will you choose?

personally, I i would pick the former because (correct me if i'm wrong)
1) its actively managed
2) they have a performance fee, which means they have incentive to perform,
3) the fund has been around for quite some time and survived a some recessions.
4) presence of redemption fee: it means your fellow investors will think twice before selling. this in turn lowers the volatility for the fund.

the problem is however, the lack of ability to average down (since only 100k is available, which is the min requirement) so if one only have 100k for this fund, he has to brave the storm in a downturn. then again, given the whole world to invest, the downturn shouldn't be that bad anyway for a seasoned fund.

*on a side note, for my real portfolio, im gonna top up ponzi quantum smile.gif
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post Feb 26 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 26 2017, 10:10 AM)
Reading one post below yours, where Vanguard 2015 mentioned about using DCA to enter the market, wouldn't this lump sum investment of 100k into a fund violate this ? What if after the lump sum investment the market starts going into correction ?
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that's where there is a discussion. if one has 500k, then no discussion liao. definitely AR2. because you have 1 initial investment and 8 DCAs. Definitely agree with Vanguard 2015

but if one have only 100k, then that's where it really depends if one has bola besi or not tongue.gif means no DCA already. its as good as a closed ended fund. you can't add or sell for 6 months unless you are willing to pay the redemption fee. in my case, if I really were to get 100k, i'll tarik from my house loan, which is another risk sweat.gif biggrin.gif


QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 26 2017, 11:11 AM)
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What "if" this 100k lump sum is just 10% of the UT investment value?
What "if" after this lump sum the market starts to going into the bull run?

I guess, those that are going to do to must have his/her contingency plan....
anyway...your concerns are valid.  thumbsup.gif
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for the first IF, definitely go for AR2 already I think. flex.gif
for the 2nd IF, if really true then huat arrr rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

This post has been edited by joylay83: Feb 26 2017, 12:14 PM
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post Feb 26 2017, 12:10 PM

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- double post -

This post has been edited by joylay83: Feb 26 2017, 12:11 PM
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post Feb 26 2017, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 26 2017, 12:33 PM)
If you do recall, these products where is deemed wholsesale fund or fund open only to "sophisticated / accreditated" investors comes with certain T&C. Among them, the targeted participant must have MYR 3M in networth and / or household combined earning of MYR400K p.a..

For these qualified participants, it is assume that they have the financial capacity to withstand these flucuation and liquidity risk.

Whenn one sees these products from a retail perspective; that is why you start to think like this and like that such as; about DCA lar, about risk lar etc.

Interested participants should comprehend that these wholesale products are not targeting retail participants.

As such, come friend ... lai lai... let's play together-gether at the kiddie pool. Kiddie pool is nice, is safe and yet one can still enjoy the nice cool water.

Xuzen
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post Feb 27 2017, 03:01 AM

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Affin Hwang bond fund ---> Ponzi 1 Quantum = 2% SC cry.gif
(promo not applicable to intra-switch) bye.gif

puchongite Thanks for the video rclxms.gif
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post Mar 2 2017, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(skynode @ Mar 2 2017, 08:40 PM)
Dear Sifus, I am trying to adopt a value cost averaging approach to my portfolio. How do you think I best do this? Top up every month on the fund in reds?
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VCA basically means you top up when the VALUE is cheap, unlike DCA where you top up on a fixed time period regardless of the value.

so now the question is how do you now the value is cheap? there are several methods to go about it, each have their own preference.

VCA is for the faint hearted, but worth it in the long run.
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post Mar 7 2017, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 6 2017, 10:17 PM)
It's save SGD60 not spend SGD60. Yes. That's what I do to minimize cost + eat in SG. SG food only SGD2/meal. Cheap. Bus ticket also SGD0.7x only.

Nope. Will never park that much. But I do not like paying more than necessary. Again org kasi you free, you nak bayar?

It's a personal principle to NOT PAY for platform fees if possible as overtime, platform fees > service charge = less returns. With platform fees = less money masuk pocket. vmad.gif ranting.gif

RM400 also money.  Cukup utk 5x buffet
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If i am platinum acc with FI:EQ 9:1 then platform fees maybe kinda significant la.... if having the traditional FI: EQ 4:6 then i'd say the platform fees are not significant. btw 0.05 x 4 is 0.2, not 0.4%.

For POEMS, I think if got large amount e.g. around 50-100k RM at least then worth to transfer (at least for me), if not, the TT charges oledi a significant % liao.

This is just my opinion.. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 6 2017, 10:30 PM)
Keep in mind some people said malaysia going to introduce death tax aka inheritance tax after GE. Not sure true or not. Don't know how to overcome this.  One shot like US tax 40% of the total value... 
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That's why some ppl believe to teach your children how to fish (invest for themselves) and leave nothing for them. They will then divide their estate while they are still alive (estate succession). That's how they avoid these taxes. Alternatively, some engage estate managers e.g. Whitman
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post Mar 9 2017, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Mar 8 2017, 05:50 PM)
as for asia pac ex japan, which funds would you consider ? still Cimb Asia Pacific Dynamic ? any suggestion ?

I need an Asia Pac Ex Japan fund in my portfolio. still thinking which to add.
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If you have the holding power and besi heart, ponzi quantum ftw bruce.gif
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post Mar 21 2017, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Mar 21 2017, 01:28 PM)
Can someone advise what is the easiest way transfer Public Mutual fund invested via EPF directly to FSM?
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From Any institution / fund house to FSM, from my previous experience:

1. print out a statement of your holdings (PM in this case) and email fsm, tell them you want to transfer this to FSM.
2. for funds that FSM have and can transfer directly, FSM will take it from there.
3. for funds that FSM have, but cannot transfer directly, they will ask you to sell from there and buy in FSM. you get RM for RM 0% sales charge.
4. for funds that FSM do not have, you will have to sell your funds and buy any funds in FSM. you get RM for RM 0% sales charge.

note: plz don't sell equity and buy bond in fsm, you rugi big time.

I have transferred Pm and eUT to FSm via (3) and (4). no problems. smile.gif smile.gif
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post Apr 2 2017, 11:40 PM

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j.passing.by tqvm for your post rclxms.gif shall wait and see if the extra top up is worth it smile.gif
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post Apr 12 2017, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(weilik @ Apr 11 2017, 06:22 PM)
What about Indonesia such as this fund - MANULIFE INVESTMENT INDONESIA EQUITY FUND? Good for diversification? Besides TA Global Tech, any other potential Global funds? I noticed that the TA Tech fund has been declining right after I purchase it  mega_shok.gif
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I prefer to have exposure to indon via the 2 ponzis. let the ponzis switch between m'sia - china - indon. do not have very good experience with indonesia specific fund last time (eastspring).
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post Apr 15 2017, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Apr 15 2017, 02:16 AM)
According to the speaker, Intra and Inter switches with iFAST is no charge...? Probably good for goreng type investor... I'm pretty sure they priced it into their fee, but I couldn't find it.
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suzen's wrap account? wink.gif
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post Aug 31 2018, 02:48 AM

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Any1 gonna top up ponzi 1? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 1 2021, 03:51 AM

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sorry want to ask a stupid question... anybody kena ask to verify and produce document that u r a sophisticated investor? can we main beli jer? unsure.gif laugh.gif

 

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