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KingArthurVI
post Feb 6 2021, 11:43 PM

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I'm interested in using FSM to buy UT because normally I do it through my preferred banking relationship manager, but I think FSM is cheaper? Does anyone have experience investing through RM before and then switched to FSM? The only benefit of my RM was he will tell me if any good fund coming up, or if any of my fund now is good time to exit, etc. but I think I want to try managing some of them myself now.
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post Feb 7 2021, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(AnasM @ Feb 7 2021, 09:42 AM)
do u hv time and knowledge when to buy and sell at FSM?
RM give better advise
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I don’t claim to be an expert but after two years with my RM I’m starting to see some pattern.. hoping to learn more by having real experience managing it on my own. I need to do a side by side comparison to figure out what the RM and bank’s commission total is, but before that I wanted to check if anyone in LYN has already done that homework for me 😅

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post Feb 7 2021, 02:39 PM

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Wow, didn't expect to receive so many great responses, thanks to all of you for taking the time to explain the differences between investing via RM vs. investing on our own through FSM. I think I'll start by opening an account and take a look around to see what's out there. There are certain funds (actually it's an ETF lol so I guess I'm looking for a fund based on it) like the Ark Innovation Fund that I'm interested in, but doesn't look like FSM carries it or its feeder funds (someone please point me to it if there is one).

QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 7 2021, 10:10 AM)
hmm.gif just wondering only,....
Is this RM a qualified advisor that will serves the interest of his/her clients more than his/her own interest like meeting KPI targets set by his/her bank?

On this "The only benefit of my RM was he will tell me if any good fund coming up, or if any of my fund now is good time to exit",
does this RM only promotes new UT funds available from his/her bank? (which could be very limited)

how good is his/her timing of exit?
is the decision made based on meeting your desired set goal or based on the feeling that the market/region/sector that the purchased UT fund are focusing on, at are too pricy now?
(if based on set goal,...i think in FSM there is a function that will auto trigger a notification once the NAV reached your set target)

from your experience with that RM,
mind sharing the RM selected funds and its % of allocation to each of them in relation to your port?

if in FSM, just prepare to pay some tuition fees and may includes some sleepless nights and some emotional roller coaster rides along the way....

thus on this "I think I want to try managing some of them myself now."
thumbsup.gif  and happy learning and UT DIY investing......

just hope that this DIY learning period is not in a Rally or Crash period, else the experience gained during this period will be imprinted in your mindset and unconsciously steer the direction of your future investments with FSM
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Truth be told, the RM is an ex-college mate of mine, and sometimes it's really hard to tell if he's doing this just for a commission or for my good also. I like to believe that it's 50/50, the guy's got to feed his family too. But I'd ideally want to drop this ratio further, and I think investing on my own is a natural next step towards that.

QUOTE(matyrze @ Feb 7 2021, 12:19 PM)
Can you describe what pattern you noticed?

Personally I have never engaged with these people purely because to avoid conflict of interests haha.
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The pattern usually is he'll ask if I want in or not if the fund drop quite significantly (around -5%) below the initial offering value. Then usually every few months I check in with him and he'll say which ones are at a good point to sell if I want to sell, but usually he'll then recommend some other portfolio to go in on... I have a feeling it's actually because he wants to gain commission so he's flipping the UTs around. So yes you're right there is a conflict of interest that's inherent in our relationship here.

QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 7 2021, 01:17 PM)
I was typing a similar post but just +1 this easier.

The only thing for the rm is if you really like to listen to him, and you really don't want to do homework. Like once in a few months monitoring, reading up, rebalanced, top up etc.

Eventually, the ultimate cost is loss of returns when you consider the best fund house is limited to what they can do internally vs an open market of funds.
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I'm interested as an individual in learning more about economics and the market, so I feel like this kind of hands-off approach is not so exciting.

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post Feb 7 2021, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(eenong89 @ Feb 7 2021, 10:57 AM)
How about spliting ur investment this year 50:50... 50% with RM and 50% with FSM... Let the return decides which is the better choice..
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I would like to diversify my exposure to funds if possible, so would try and avoid buying similar funds but through different channels. I think the best next thing to do is to try out myself and see if I like the hands-on approach more or not. rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 7 2021, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 7 2021, 03:08 PM)
FSM has one … Affin Hwang World Series - Global Disruptive Innovation Fund - MYR Hedged, a feeder fund of Nikko Am ARK Disruptive Innovation Fund

https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/tools/facts...c=global-search
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Thanks! Any advice between the MYR hedged vs. USD variants?
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post Apr 4 2021, 02:10 PM

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For USD based funds, do you guys normally go for MYR-hedged or USD?

Separate question: How often you guys DCA your funds? brows.gif

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post Apr 5 2021, 02:41 PM

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FPX limit only 30k a day, how to deposit more than that in one day? Can I transfer to cash account then pay from there? Never done more than 30k before
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post Apr 5 2021, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(thecurious @ Apr 5 2021, 03:03 PM)
Use more than 1 bank account...
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Argh, only have one bank account since I closed a few that I didn't use long ago bangwall.gif kinda ridiculous FPX 30k limit daily
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post Apr 5 2021, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 5 2021, 06:01 PM)
contact customer service see what solution they can offer you.
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Thanks for the suggestion. At this point it'll be transacted tomorrow anyway so I'll just wait doh.gif
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post Apr 7 2021, 05:51 PM

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How do I see what’s the current NAV of managed portfolios? Thinking of buying aggressive MP but want to see what’s the current NAV
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post Apr 7 2021, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 7 2021, 05:54 PM)
There is no current NAV.
They are not priced in NAV
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So if I'm planning on at least trying to find a good entry point, I'm out of luck? lol. I guess the only way is to look at their monthly performance statement?
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post Apr 13 2021, 01:30 AM

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What do you guys think about using the aggressive managed portfolio as one’s core portfolio? I’m thinking of going the 80% core and 20% supplementary portfolio split, and using aggressive MP as core, then DIY some select individual funds for my supplementary portfolio. Feedback welcome, thanks!
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post Apr 13 2021, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 13 2021, 06:29 AM)
hmm.gif looking at the funds compositions of the FSM Managed Portfolio, what do you have in mind for the DIY supplementary funds to have for that 20% of your portfolio?
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For the 20% I'll go for more short-term focuses, aka "best bets" like:

- Affin Hwang Disruptive Innovation Fund
- Principal Greater China fund (since aggressive MP has limited exposure to Greater China, it only has China A)
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post Apr 13 2021, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 13 2021, 11:32 AM)
Then, I guess there is no harm to give it a try with the money that you will not touch for a few years..
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Thanks for the feedback. This strategy actually was recommended to me by FSM themselves, and I thought it sounded good but wanted to see what others think. My risk profile from the risk assessment survey on their website indicated I'm aggressive type and I agree, so I wanted to find a means towards capital gain in 3-5 years or even longer. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 14 2021, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(monkey9926 @ Apr 14 2021, 08:32 AM)
I have only 10% in managed portfolios. The 90% is self selection into equities and bond funds, local and overseas.

I feel it depends on how much time u have to read and research other funds.
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Yeah this is very true. I chose MP as my majority portfolio for FSM because I feel I want a more hands-off approach so I can focus on the narrower/more aggressive bets. The aggressive MP is pretty diversified so I'm ok with letting it go on autopilot. Again, like you said, depends on each individual icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 15 2021, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 15 2021, 09:58 AM)
ARKK is invested in coinbase now

So indirectly investor also has a skin in bitcoin game now laugh.gif
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The only way to get exposure to ARKK that's not directly buying the ETF is by buying the Affin Hwang Disruptive Innovation fund, right? It's a feeder fund into Nikko AM ARK Disruptive Innovation Fund which kinda mirrors ARKK's holdings?
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post Apr 15 2021, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 15 2021, 01:46 PM)
i think someone mentioned that it was a "YES, you are correct" before...
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Sorry just wanted to make sure... because I already put in some amount here dry.gif
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post Apr 15 2021, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 15 2021, 02:01 PM)
i think previously Ganesh1696 had mentioned they are quite similar......
in fact, i think you can quite accurately foretell the % of variance in NAV to be published at abt 4pm of affinwhang global disruptive innovation fund by looking at the % of movement of Arkk Share price in the morning at abt 6am.

mind sharing how many % of this fund is in your port?
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Currently 30%, but I'm in the process of balancing my core and supplementary portfolios to be 80:20 ratio. Over the next few months I'll slowly DCA into my core (aggressive MP) to make it 80%, so ultimately I foresee the innovation fund to be 10-15% overall.
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post Apr 15 2021, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 15 2021, 02:23 PM)
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anyway, when did you start to enter into that fund?
at what % did you start to hv it in your port? (directly initial 30% or accumulated it for a few months)
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Haha honestly I only opened FSMOne account 2 weeks ago. So yeah it's initial 30% lump sum.

I work in the tech industry so I'm really interested in the ARKK types of disruptive tech funds. For other investors I wouldn't recommend just going in 30% like I did tongue.gif

Not shown in this screenshot is my MP which is same amount exactly as my AmanahRaya bond fund so you can replace in your mind the AmanahRaya with aggressive MP, that'll give you a picture of all my equity type funds

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post Apr 15 2021, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(monkey9926 @ Apr 15 2021, 04:34 PM)
very lucky you.
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Why? confused.gif kinda late to the party haha

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