G20 will be key.
Uptrend, sell. Because more drama ahead.
Downtrend, god bless us. Ride it out.
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Jun 10 2019, 01:33 PM
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G20 will be key.
Uptrend, sell. Because more drama ahead. Downtrend, god bless us. Ride it out. |
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Jun 10 2019, 08:04 PM
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Jun 11 2019, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jun 11 2019, 09:10 AM) 1500k I think is the bottom of KLCI. Given that the money pool is mainly from government investment company PNB EPF KWAP(don't know kaput ad or not) Khazanah. Foreign mostly run ad. so left those aunties uncle and fund company. lol |
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Jun 11 2019, 08:46 PM
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CIMB GC got changes...
Planning to be multi classes and asset in USD... Wonder how this changes will change its GC stand and % of asset... |
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Jun 11 2019, 09:17 PM
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Jun 13 2019, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jun 13 2019, 03:24 AM) Which global fund u all holding ah ? United both quality and durable.United Global seems quite consistent, jus nw randomly click on global funds Nomura high conviction is not bad too. Titans is doing ok. *** BTW, those who seek for new bond fund and rasa was was with Nomura. I found another gems. Ambond and AmbondIslam. Their return are comparable to Nomura in 3M to 2Y duration. Assets allocation are almost the same for Islamic portfolio. |
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Jun 14 2019, 09:38 AM
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Jun 14 2019, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 14 2019, 11:00 AM) made a quick and simple data compilation on some FI funds... Trade war sentiments still around.b'cos of the high YTD rois....looks likely they have almost reached their peak for this year.... some had already surpassed their historical yearly ROIs... not much upside potential already?? for asset preservation ...YES..... Klci cont flat or even downturn Foreign dumping local bond Uptrend yes. 9% 1 yr possible. Infact Nomura already 5+ half year to go. Foresee Sept may drop. But this few months as buffer I personally dont think will affect much as bond are highly as favourite for moderate conservative investors. |
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Jun 14 2019, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 14 2019, 11:52 AM) Yah! Yah! I concur. Market will remain the same pace till 2H2020 IMO. Bond UTF should not be used to seek upside potential but rather as a portfolio stabilizer. Your main engine of growth should be equity fund. When market is volatile like now, bond utf looks like darling in comparison to equities. But when market is on a bull run, equities utf will move like rocket and leave bond utf behind by a far far behind. I remember before Trump came into the picture, when Obama was in power, I had TA Tech utf giving me consistent double digit compounded growth for a few years in a row. Those were good times. Xuzen So yea. Those who don't want see the number possibly rocketing up and down as what we see since last October. I would recond all in bond. A few to be exact Some bond are high risk too. |
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Jun 17 2019, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(Streetrat @ Jun 17 2019, 10:08 AM) I break up my saving and invest it within 6 months period, when i buy it is almost at the peak and before all this drama started. Just a few fund give positive, overall my return still red. Since 1 year ago i stop DCA and only buy when price drop. You mean 2017?Worst performing fund is AH Quantum -19%, AH Japan growth -10%, Kenanga -12%, these 3 fund i'm only holding and stopped DCA. I also have CIMB dynamic and GC. I also tried managed PF which perform even worst then DIY. |
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Jun 17 2019, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(Streetrat @ Jun 17 2019, 10:43 AM) QUOTE(yeowhock @ Jun 17 2019, 10:56 AM) Sad for your money, diversification is good to manage risk, but sometimes world events may affect your holdings, and fund managers invest according to the fund mandate, well alot might says don't time the market, but don't completely ignore what is happening around you, happy investing QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jun 17 2019, 10:58 AM) Because fund managers are tied to mandate lah that start to made me question the wisdom to maintain a set fund diversification regardless of market sentiment. Anyway. It's not too late yet to noticed the danger side of UT hahhaha. |
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Jun 19 2019, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(rapple @ Jun 19 2019, 09:30 AM) As per FSM, it's the banker fault who accidentally miss out my payment and I seriously doubt it. For whatever reason, it's their responsibility to make sure all payments go through on the settlement date. This is dangerous. I got back the funds yesterday after 6pm. We used to rely on the system and we completely forget it of its a small amount . I used to not believe those system but I tried it out it turn to be reliable. Then cases and cases of money gone make me think that it's not the reliable after all. |
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Jun 20 2019, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE(inquiries @ Jun 19 2019, 11:58 PM) By the way, regardless of how poor a fund perform (even when it is below the benchmark), the fund manager would always say "seeing this is a long term investment, we believe our fund is performing well". That's why invest in UT also need some knowledge. Not give money and give FM do all shit. Because some FM really eat shit. Look at the funds out there. Even in FSM, not every fund perform. We must look into it and cherry pick the funds.Has anyone seen a fund manager opening say "oh, we are not performing well"? Haha. Regardless of the negative returns etc, the sales agents are going to quote the same Annual Report and say they are "performing well".. Of course some public will feel cheated. As investors mist clearly know what we are invested in. |
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Jun 20 2019, 09:59 AM
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Jun 20 2019, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(rapple @ Jun 20 2019, 12:57 PM) No its not ok. Since your case is still new. If the money it's not in on that day I check with them, I would have lodge the complaint to SC for their mistakes. There are dealing with people hard earn money and what if it takes longer than expected to recover back the funds. In hindsight is easy for you to say such thing. I think you should file it to SC. I almost done it last time when selling my managed port took longer than 15 business day while in the list the longest redemption time should be T+10 if not mistaken. The fund return in time on the day I wish to make a call to FSM. |
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Jun 20 2019, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 20 2019, 11:53 AM) Someone posted a link to an article that tries to give an opinion on REITs. Selinareits now still holding around d 20% cash. If fully invest, I think can outperforms manureitsIt may be an old article. However, on my personal level, Manureits is currently the best performing component utf in my entire portfolio. Xuzen |
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Jun 26 2019, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 26 2019, 12:23 PM) still holding on to S'pore focused funds? holding 7.5% of Nikko AM of my total port.Singapore seen set to suffer more than other regional nations due to trade war Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...UkOFrsiARalo.99 This post has been edited by [Ancient]-XinG-: Jun 26 2019, 12:53 PM |
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Jun 27 2019, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 27 2019, 10:20 AM) I had this concern too.... Lol. You arrrr. I remembered, in 2015, I too was enticed by the above normal returns of past years performances of RHB bond and Islamic bond funds at that time. bought into it in May 2015 few months later had a chance to meet up with the CFO of Affinhwang at a dinner function....showed him the RHB data... he looked and said..."well, some of the bond issuers & rating listed in the fund fact sheet,....Hwang would never hold it" i sold off losing 1% redemption fees,...and the RHB funds continued to gives above average returns for a few more years..... Really cannot buy UT. Lol. Bond fund also can kena game. This post has been edited by [Ancient]-XinG-: Jun 27 2019, 08:26 PM |
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Jun 28 2019, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Jun 28 2019, 09:45 AM) Thank you so much. At the moment (at least for a week), I will monitor the suggested funds, especially after the G20 Since you haven't enter. Wait for recommend fund promo see see. Lower than your initial 1.0% promo. Few to look for while waiting Ponzi 2 Cimb GC Nikko am Easspring equity income Es small cap Kgf Es Gem Tagtf United global quality Ambond Nomura I income |
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Jun 30 2019, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(BooYa @ Jun 29 2019, 12:50 PM) Ohhh. SA perform wayyyy batter then that lapsap lol QUOTE(Zegoon681111 @ Jun 30 2019, 12:51 PM) Bond fund are often all time high. |
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