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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Apr 26 2017, 05:51 PM

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Hmm. Then maybe we will all receive it in batches. Email server got a limit on how much can go out at once. Maybe you are the lucky few that received first before others.
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post Apr 27 2017, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 27 2017, 07:14 PM)
Being billed for platform fee again! cry.gif
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quarterly ma... no meh?
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post Apr 27 2017, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 27 2017, 07:42 PM)
Anggap donation to FSM lo. whistling.gif They jadi kaya to serve you better/hire more pretty girls.
Yes they charge you every quarter according to the value. Eg you put RM1k, but it increase to RM1.1k in the 2nd month eventhough you didn't add extra, your platform fee increases also. You get charge 0.05% RM1k in the 1st month. Then get charged 0.05% RM1.1k for 2nd month. I didn't know that. I thought we will kena the charge for original amount.
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erm.. i think not so dramatic

more realistic increase in bond fund value is more around 2% for example. That would make 1k become RM1020 on 2nd month and RM1040.4 on 3rd month

at 0.05% that is only 0.5 + 0.51 + 0.52 = 1.52 only

correct me if i am wrong.
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post Apr 27 2017, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 27 2017, 08:06 PM)
Well I kena. That's how I know.  sad.gif  cry.gif
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The sample u use is kindda hyperbole. 1k to 1.1k denote a 10% profit in 3 month.

In any case, even if its 10% increment a month that would meant only 0.50 + 0.55 + 0.60 = RM1.65
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post Apr 29 2017, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 29 2017, 10:42 AM)
stop worrying abt it
best solution?..log out and leave it
come back in a year time
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leaving any kind of investment unattended might not be a good idea.
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post May 3 2017, 03:50 PM

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New Robo advisory is the right way to go

Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...MTraGUFMUo5L.99


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post May 3 2017, 06:29 PM

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laugh.gif just updated with March data, looks like I am very US heavy
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post May 4 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 4 2017, 09:30 AM)
when people are timing the market, I'm sitting here continuing on my dca and focusing on my main income.

control the controlables.
be objective in your day to day tasks.
ignore white noise.
stick to your principles.
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agree on this.
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post May 4 2017, 11:53 PM

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I think better let the fund manager decide to keep or throw it away. Cannot judge a fund coz of one share drop
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post May 5 2017, 11:36 AM

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I have a question.

I am trying to plot Fund Allocation into excel by country for AH Select Bond fund. From the factsheet i only see the currency exposure portion is sorted by country.

Is the "before hedging" % the correct value to use?

Separately what does it mean for the "After hedging"?
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post May 5 2017, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ May 5 2017, 04:22 PM)
I'd go for before hedging because that reflects the original currency the bonds are denominated in which in a way reflect the country allocation. The fund use hedging instruments to reduce the volatility of the fund, that's how they achieve such a low volatility despite being an asian bond fund
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Some of the "before hedging" is in USD currency. But I cant really put it in US country column because obviously the fund only invest in Asia Pac

What is your opinion on this?
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Quite happy with TA performance this past month. Sadly as expected Manulife AP REIT also moved lower
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QUOTE(noname2188 @ May 5 2017, 11:42 PM)
Why you expect Manulife AP REIT will move lower  hmm.gif ?
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usually reit goes up while other stocks goes down, and vice versa.
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QUOTE(ganaesan @ May 6 2017, 02:46 AM)
If possible try not to make a call based on 1 month' profile ..
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tq capt obvious.
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post May 12 2017, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(TaintedSoul @ May 12 2017, 07:12 PM)
regret that i bought Templeton Global Total Return - USD.
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Is it worth it to get foreign currency funds?
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QUOTE(TaintedSoul @ May 12 2017, 07:32 PM)
the foreign exchange rate charge is a big disadvantage
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Because they impose further exchange rate fee during converting?

QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 12 2017, 07:36 PM)
Depends. If funds on FSM MY no. If SG UT, then yes. Some foreign denominated funds outperform the SGD funds (same sector but different fund house)
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Can give any example?
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post May 13 2017, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 13 2017, 09:35 AM)
as they say don't put all your eggs in one basket. I do like unit trust but it's kinda boring just investing into it and letting it flourish.

stocks on the other hand offer that adrenaline rush esp when you tap on the buy button and pray to every deity in heaven that you didn't make a mistake esp keying in how many lots you need. a veteran over in stocks exchange keyed in one digit difference and that one digit can mean a 20k myr

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also there's the dividends. all fun fun. we'll until you screw up.
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your stock return looks to be better then UT
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 13 2017, 12:01 PM)
be advised this is way difficult than UT. this is a product of many homework and research and worrying that what if you chose the wrong counter and stand to lose 60% of your capital and it doesn't appreciate. unlike it all you have is measly returns if you made the wrong call
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yea, so due to this i dont think i am suitable to trade stock. i tried forex once, so im guessing the amount of study involve is similar. i didnt do well in forex, i doubt i will be better at stocks.
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post May 13 2017, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 13 2017, 05:13 PM)
possible....but I think they are basing on this
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...5-May-2017-8314
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how to interprate this table? can please share. thanks
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post May 14 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 13 2017, 07:24 PM)
Not really. If you want to invest for capital appreciation, then yeah maybe more work needed. Because those stocks, no analayst no cover, no one knows about it.

But if you are investing for income (dividend yield), few criteria criteria.
1) financial balance sheet. A company with zero debts or low debts is mich better at survival.
2) company you see everyday which people use and  hard for them to survive without it. But this is just a clue. Not necessarily can work (good eg. PPB group on observation it's a good business - gsc cinema, massimo bread, blue key and cap sauh flour, neptune and sri murni cooking oil but if you dig deeper, not so impressive although it's owned by the famous robert kouk)

Can malaysia survive without it? Most likely can but hard.

But OT. blush.gif
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Thanks for the knowledge shared.

QUOTE(T231H @ May 13 2017, 11:58 PM)
hmm.gif how to interpret the market valuation table?
hope this can helps....

Valuations
The market weighted price-earnings ratio (PE) or ‘market valuations’ as we commonly address it, is a measurement of how ‘expensive’ or ‘cheap’ a market is at a particular point of time. The information on market valuations is easily available on our fundsupermart website.

So how is the price-earnings ratio calculated? The price-earnings ratio is the current price of the market divided by the expected earnings per share for the market.
Expected earnings are calculated on a weighted average basis ( companies with a higher market capitalization will have a higher ‘weight’ in the calculation of expected earnings).

It is relatively straightforward to compare valuations. A market with a high PE is considered ‘expensive’ and a market with a low PE is considered ‘cheap’.
However, bear in mind that this valuation measurement is used on a relative basis. Valuations can be compared across markets, or compared within the same market on a historical basis.

In the case of profit taking, comparing with historical valuations is more relevant, as it is a better gauge as to whether the market is overvalued or not.

In other words, if the PE for market A is 25 times, on an absolute basis you cannot tell whether it is expensive or cheap.
However, if a comparison is made vis-à-vis other regions and we find that valuations of other regions range from 30 times to 40 times, the valuation for this market is relatively attractive.

But for the purpose of deciding whether or not to take profits, we can compare current valuations to the historical range of valuations. If historical valuations range from 10-15 times, we can say that market A is ‘currently trading at a relatively high PE in comparison to the historical range’. In such a situation, investors should consider taking profits.

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...?articleNo=1783

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...l?articleNo=606

Determining equity market’s attractiveness
https://www.themalaysianreserve.com/new/sto...-attractiveness
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Thanks for the knowledge shared.

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