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post Jun 6 2020, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(encikbuta @ Jun 6 2020, 07:30 AM)
hey guys, need your two cents here so i'm not blindly running into the woods.

i think i found a way to get a live update of the rough performance of our mutual funds via our investing apps (i'm using investing.com). i just add the corresponding indices into my watchlist and i get to view the price change live, almost like looking at a share price.

my indices as below:

- Manulife Investment Asia-Pacific REIT: FTSE EPRA/NAREIT Developed Asia Index
- Principal Greater China Equity Fund: FTSE Greater China Index
- TA Global Technology: Dow Jones Global Technology Index
- United ASEAN Discovery: FTSE ASEAN All Share
- United Global Quality Equity: FTSE World

Morningstar did provide the exact index which they use to compare each of the funds to. However, some of them will either update only once a day or update very late (coz they follow LSE or NYSE). These ones i find update during our timezone. i find that FTSE seems to be the better index.

Am i approaching this correctly?

I do understand that the index is not 100% representative of our mutual fund performance, i.e. index could go up 1% but our mutual fund only goes up 0.8% but at least i know whether it's "up a lot" or "up a bit". and it's live  biggrin.gif
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In the fund's prospectus, it tells how the fund operates and the market sectors it invested into. Also the benchmark index for comparing the fund's performance.

If the fund diverts too much from the benchmark index, for example a large cap fund based on KLCI but behaving like a small cap fund... be aware and alert that the fund manager is not following the fund's mandate. Investors (who want to time the market) should ditch them...

I browse the indices in yahoo finance... moving averages can be added into the charts...




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post Jul 6 2020, 02:56 PM

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Topped up in April... pulling some out today.

Making very short term trades to take advantage of the volality in the markets.

Buy the dips!


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post Aug 19 2020, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 19 2020, 07:19 PM)
if in a 10 yrs IRR track,....if an investment for the the last 8 calendar years had been giving only 3% ROI pa, but only 2 yrs giving 12% each in the early year,.... the IRR value would look nice,....
if you just looked at the IRR it show better than 5%, but if you looked at the calendar year ROI, you will noticed 12, 12, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3 ......

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Maths is logical. If you get the logic correct, but the numbers wrong, you will still go astray.

In 10 yrs, (2 x 12% + 8 x 3%) = 48%

The irr or annualized compounded figure is 3.998%.

What it means is that no matter where the good years are, at the beginning, middle or at the end of the 10-year period, the total returns is still 48% and annualized to 4%.

What you're looking for is a rolling 10 years period, say from 2008-2017, 2009-2018 or 2010-2019.

Or shorten the 10years to 5 or 3years for more recent overall annualized performance.

This post has been edited by j.passing.by: Aug 19 2020, 10:35 PM
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post Aug 19 2020, 10:32 PM

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No harm to use all 3 cycles, 3-yr, 5-yr and 10-yr to compare the port against funds or other ports. Looks more pro.



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post Jan 5 2021, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jan 5 2021, 11:44 AM)
This is what Asia’s stock investors are betting on in 2021

(Jan 5): After narrowly beating their US peers for the first time in three years in 2020, Asian stocks could see another strong year, analysts say.

Asia’s outperformance is seen continuing in 2021, with cyclicals expected to catch up to technology stocks as optimism over vaccine rollouts grows. Analysts on average predict that the MSCI Asia Pacific Index will rise about 8% over the next 12 months, versus an estimated 7% gain for the S&P 500 Index, Bloomberg surveys show.'

1. Green is good
2. It is really value’s turn
3. Tech is still your friend
4. Dividend drought should end
5. China deleveraging is back

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/what...re-betting-2021
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Consumer theme funds would be trending upwards the entire year... people will spend, spend, spend after lockdowns. It already started in the far-east region; South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, China, Taiwan.

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post Jan 7 2021, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 7 2021, 01:46 PM)
Wait do we now have to write disclaimer ? When posting here?
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Don't be silly. Anonymous strangers tok kok and posting their 2 cents...

Who do you think we are? Fund managers promoting and selling our own funds?

What I frown on is cut & paste postings on articles or news without additional comments from the poster. The least the poster should do is making some comment why he/she wants to share it with us. Not just cut & paste without any comments as if he/she is promoting the news or article and giving it free eyeballs.

Anyway, this is an UT forum, not stock forum... tough to follow any tips on any funds to goreng overnite. And a fund house won't be launching a new fund very frequently; anyone looking to use this forum as a free promotion on any new fund can only do it once, maybe twice a year.

(And a forum veteran had already got suspicious on a newbie's postings... see 3 pages back.)


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post Jan 13 2021, 08:13 PM

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"... REITs in the region as demonstrated their performances since central banks turned more dovish at the beginning of 2019.”

lol smile.gif

As suspected, the article was pre-covid times...Feb 2020.





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post Jan 30 2021, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jan 30 2021, 12:34 PM)
its unknown actually. sometimes fsm will skip the holiday price n go directly to the following days price. coz remember at that same day, they will usually first update the nav prior to the holiday. let giv u an example.

market open - 26th
market open - 27th
thaipusam is - 28th
market open - 29th

fsm open on 29th n they start updating all those 26th nav to 27th nav
if follow your logic they suppose to be updating 28th nav for some funds right? but not really...

so far from all the fund i tracked only 1 fund actually updated to 28th price, which is united healthcare. others all updated to 27th.

so i suspect the same issue will happened on 2nd feb. fsm will start update all the nav from 27th to 29th instead of 1st (for those fund that opened on that day)
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- if kl is on holiday, then banks and other financial institutions including fund companies are closed too.

- no funds would be priced for 28th jan (thaipusam holiday in KL.) Not necessary even if the fund is foreign equity fund, because no transactions done on that day.

- any transactions placed on non business day (holidays and weekends) will carry forward to next work day.

What is the advantage/disadvantage for us investors? Only if we want to do some transactions but it is a holiday and closed for business.

So, if say HSI and other stock indices drops 10% in the morning, we cannot take advantage of steep drop and top up some funds.

We are like sitting on the sidelines, looking and unable to do anything. Really frustrating if the indices bounce back 10% the next day.

BUT... if the indices continues to drop another 10%, we will be happy for the holiday and non business day.

(Btw updating 26th Jan prices... so late meh? They using paper and pencils, and casio calculators?)


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post Jan 30 2021, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jan 30 2021, 03:08 PM)
U probably not far off from your description

There is actually literally a bunch of accountants daily calculating the nav at the end of business day. laugh.gif
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... for a brief moment, i thought i was back in the early 90's... have to browse newspapers and looking up 3 days old prices.

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post Jan 30 2021, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Fledgeling @ Jan 30 2021, 03:05 PM)
Thank you for those who took the time to share their input and thoughts.

Kudos to FSM, I actually got a reply from their Facebook page:

Please be informed that it is Malaysia Public Holiday on 1 Feb, hence when you buy on Monday, it will capture next business days NAV.
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U got reply from expat, ah?

Malaysia Public Holiday. smile.gif






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