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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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WhitE LighteR
post Mar 17 2018, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Mar 17 2018, 06:51 PM)
both lo. for example in stock market we choose what to invest based on the company profit and debt and equity etc etc. for unit trust the fund manager suka suka buy fund they think is good. all depend on 1 person
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We can only judge from historical performance. Those with more advance insights can look further ahead in the world trends n buy beforehand expecting certain fund to increase due to its underlying holdings.

As to top up strategy I suggest VCA
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post Mar 17 2018, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Mar 17 2018, 08:54 PM)
what are the indicators to stop or sell a certain fund? as nav go down i think could be due to general market trend and after it over will go back up.

so sell due to that might rugi...
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Sell when u lose confidence in the fund
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post Mar 19 2018, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Mar 19 2018, 06:48 PM)
IDS damn sad... No eye see.....
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Holy.. -16.5%!!

If it's me I cut lost already. It's higher than the 3yr average volatility of 14.59%

Unacceptable
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post Mar 19 2018, 11:55 PM

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I think FBM small cap itself is not doing well. So affected all this funds.
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post Mar 20 2018, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 20 2018, 08:57 AM)
.....and the carnage will to be continued today in Asia? .....
DJ, SnP, Nasdaq, DAQ, FTSE, CAC, Technology sector...all down from 1.2 ~ 1.8% last closing...
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More chance to top up...
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post Mar 20 2018, 10:05 AM

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No one can say for sure it's a falling knife or that worst is yet to come. Just stick to our VCA
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post Mar 21 2018, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(i1899 @ Mar 20 2018, 09:30 PM)
No. No. No.
2018 market IS NOT FI market definitely, esp those Foreign bond funds.
I have moved out all my bond funds with FSM, buying ASNB FP slowly / worse case buy Msia Bond Fund at eUT. I think I will  cry.gif one year later if maintain my FI portion with FSM .

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I do strongly agree to buy in dip, but you should buy into the CORRECT MARKET and RIGHT FUND during dip. CORRECT MARKET is more important to RIGHT FUND.

Fyi, my portfolio had been up >3% YTD (>3 months salary) because i bought during recent dip. My profit is very close to the peak on 24/01.
I switched in around 10% of my UT portfolio from FI to EQ on 06 Feb, 09 Feb, 28 Feb and 02 March.
And, i switched out from EQ on 26/01 and 26/02 with around 7% profit in 1 or 2 months.
** look at the date above ==>  i bought near the bottom/ lowest of month, and sold at the peak of month.  icon_rolleyes.gif

I would like to say that it is REBALANCING.

Many people here forgot about REBALANCE : always hoo ray hoo ray when market is up, then cry dad cry mum during dip.
When market is up, u should take out some portion of EQ and put it to FI.
When market is down, u should take out some portion of FI and put it to EQ.
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The other obvious problem that i observed here is: don't know how to sell. They buy during the dips, they buy with DCA or VCA or advanced tenique, buy, buy and buy, BUT don't bother to sell or lock profit in FI. They only sell when they need money. it will be a problem.

many more...

Investment is an art... not engineering.. so there is NO 1 formula for all people... but there is some common sense we should follow.

Happy investing.
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Unfortunately not everyone have a crystal ball like you to buy low and sell high
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post Mar 22 2018, 12:26 PM

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What u guys think about the future potential for Manulife REIT and AmAsia Pacific REIT?

They look to have taken quite a beating this year, albeit expected to.

Will those that still holding this funds continue to top up or wait for some sign of recovery first?

What is your opinion on this?
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post Mar 22 2018, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 22 2018, 12:32 PM)
KGF had been on the top 5 funds  by sales....
and 2 other forum popular funds too....

someone betting heavy in KGF.....are they averaging down or something brewing unknown to us??
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May I know what is the other 2 forum?
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post Mar 22 2018, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 22 2018, 12:37 PM)
I did ask CIS. they say 2018 better not touch reits.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 22 2018, 12:40 PM)
i reduced my Manu Reits allocation from 15 to 10%
switching My Amreits 3% to Ponzi 2....
still maintaining Reits at 10% for diversification for now....
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No love for REIT even from FSM laugh.gif
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post Mar 22 2018, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Feliex @ Mar 22 2018, 10:12 PM)
To all Sifu here, I have a question.

Should I make initial invest RM1000
or
RSP, deduct each month rm200

which one would you suggest?
Thanks
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Most minimum investment is 1000, after that u can DCA or vca monthly
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post Mar 22 2018, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Feliex @ Mar 22 2018, 10:18 PM)
Because I saw a lot funds can start with rm100 by using RSP (Regular Saving Plan)
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Oh. Sorry. I not familiar with RSP. I thought u say DIY portfolio
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QUOTE(Feliex @ Mar 22 2018, 10:58 PM)
Is okay, by the way what is DIY portfolios?
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DIY portfolio is what most of us do here. We choose the funds ourselves n decides when we want to add more. It's similar to RSP but manually done by ourselves
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post Mar 23 2018, 07:53 AM

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Expect today to be a blood bath...
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post Mar 23 2018, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 23 2018, 01:11 PM)
It’s easy to lose your cool when every one around you is heading for the exit and hitting the panic button.

Even the savviest investors are guilty of letting their emotions get the better of them and allow fear or greed drive their overall investment decision.
If you are feeling particularly angst or nervous about your investments, this could mean some level of mismatch between your investment goals, risk-tolerance and your current portfolio allocation.

This could warrant a reassessment of the level of risk you are taking in your portfolio and if you are comfortable with your asset-allocation target (% equities, % bonds).
For example, if you are seeking a steady income stream and maybe have a weaker appetite to stomach large market gyrations or swings in your portfolio returns, then perhaps an aggressive portfolio that is tilted towards equities may not be suitable for such a risk-averse investor.

On the flipside, an investor seeking aggressive growth and returns should be able to stomach larger fluctuations in their portfolio.

It’s all about setting expectations that has to also be realistic.

Higher potential returns come with higher risk. That’s a given, but investors often forget this important maxim of investing.
Then again, higher risk is not necessarily a bad thing.

What's important is that investors are comfortable with their portfolios and the level of risk they are taking.

http://affinhwangam.com/positioning-in-a-market-correction/
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post Mar 24 2018, 10:11 AM

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This correction is starting to look like 2016...
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QUOTE(yageosamsung @ Mar 24 2018, 01:58 PM)
Have been started UT investment for 7 months but still see "red" today... maybe the time I started was the beginning of 'bad market time".
I am still new and not much experience on this...
Base on your guys experience, in current situation what shall we do actually?
- continue to perform DCA?
- on hold top up or?

Appreciate any advise, thanks...
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It's just bad luck that u came in wrong timing. 2017 was a good year but 2018 correction wipe out at least the last 6-8 months of 2017 earning. At least this is the case for me.

I adjusted my portfolio allocation a little bit in lieu of recent developments. I've adjusted REIT allocation from 20% to 15%. But still continues my monthly VCA...

What is your UT breakdown allocation right now?

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QUOTE(yageosamsung @ Mar 24 2018, 02:38 PM)
Thank you White Lighter....

Affin Hwang Selected Asia Opportunity Fund - 44%
EastSpring Investment Dinasti Equity - 29%
CIMB Dynamic Income Fund - 9%
Kenaga Growth Fund - 6%
EastSpring Investment GEM fund - 6%
CIMB Principal Global Titan - 3%
CIMB Principal Greater China -3%
Target to increase the % in Malaysia local fund
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Did u DCA regularly? If u did, u shouldn't be in red I think except for kenanga. Which fund is bleeding now for u?
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 26 2018, 12:24 PM)
Sikit-sikit, lama-lama jadi bukit  flex.gif
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Terlalu sikit, mana boleh jadi bukit bro. Haha. Maybe ant hill saja..
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post Mar 27 2018, 09:27 AM

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No kidding volatility is high 2018

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