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our_team89
post Apr 2 2021, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(hOnGhOnG @ Nov 26 2020, 09:42 AM)
Hi guys, I guess a lot people here didn't even use coating or PPF and just speculate and listen to rumors from friends that also do not even use them or from online source. So I will share some of my real experience with you all.

3 years ago, when all these coating things just pop-up, I did a 6 layers coating at c**** p*** for my CRV. I did not specifically take care of the coating, did not go back and do any "maintenance", didn't wash my car during MCO (not recommended because some stubborn dirt will stuck on coating), after 3 years, it was still "wet" and reflect light much better than a same color car that does not coat.

The car was also involved in minor accident also and have some car to car scratches, also easily polish away and yes, there was mark leftover but only can be seen in certain angle with sunlight.

I also parked my car in outdoor carpark of my condo during those time. And there were cats jumping onto the car bonnet and few scratches on the car body. However, due to coating, you can easily notice that compare to other cars, the scratch is not obvious at all and can be very easily polish away (not sacrificing your original clear coat but the coating layer itself.)

By the way, original clear coat can only last for 6 polishes (thickness = 1 paper). So coating is like a sacrificing layer for your polish work. 3 layers of proper coating equals to 1/3 thickness of a paper, so 10 layers of coating = 1 paper = another layer of clear coat depends on car made.

Now I bought a new BMW and sold the CRV higher than market value because the car still look extremely new compare to another same car & same color.

For the BMW, because from my own experience and know this coating work, I did a 10 layers coating plus front bumper PPF to prevent stone chip.

So let's talk about PPF. PPF is not godlike, there are 2 types of PPF, one is the expensive TPU (15k+ for full wrap), and another one is a cheaper variant (not TPU, can't remember the name).

TPU PPF only 40% sticky on your car body, so it can be removed and does not hurt your original paint. Yes, you have to remove PPF and rewrap every 5 years or just sell the car away. For TPU PPF, you cannot use high pressure jet to wash the car in close distance because as I mentioned, TPU PPF is only 40% sticky on your car and it can be torn off with high pressure.

For the cheaper variant (not TPU), once applied cannot be removed because of the glue properties on the cheaper PPF.

Does coating work for a shiny wet car like you wax it everyday? Yes from my experience.

Does it protect against scratches? No, it just make it less obvious and easier to fix.

Does PPF protect against scratches? Yes. (But not full force with sharp items la...)

Is PPF worry free? No, PPF is harder to take care than coating.

Should I wrap full car PPF? Yes if you have 10k+ to spend, it is the best protection you can get nowadays. No if you always send your car to bangla to wash and have to remind them everytime do not shoot the jet near the PPF, else prepare for rewrap. No if you just want to partially wrap the car and not wash it frequently because the color will age differently between PPF and non PPF area.

Hope it helps. Thanks.
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Cna u tell more on PPF harder to take care than coating? Why is that
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post Apr 2 2021, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Apr 2 2021, 07:56 AM)
Cna u tell more on PPF harder to take care than coating? Why is that
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I think why harder if u park ur car under day light like 8-5 daily. After 2-5 years, depending on what PPF u take, it will become yellowish. Hence need to replace back.

Pro, ur car paint is similar like day 1. Cons, pricey

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post Apr 2 2021, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 2 2021, 08:02 AM)
I think why harder if u park ur car under day light like 8-5 daily. After 2-5 years, depending on what PPF u take, it will become yellowish. Hence need to replace back.

Pro, ur car paint is similar like day 1. Cons, pricey
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Thanks for clarification

Haih, no ppf then get stone chip, with ppf then it become high maintenance lol
I thought after spend few thousands then can have a peace mind for at least 5 years
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post Jul 1 2023, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(hOnGhOnG @ Dec 2 2020, 03:36 PM)
I just coated my white car. if easier to maintain what you mean is easier to wash = yes.

but white car you have to wash every week to properly maintain it due to easily visible water mark and yellowing issue in long run.
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QUOTE(ryanlow134 @ Dec 2 2020, 11:01 PM)
Yes, because a good quality coat makes the car paint hydrophobic, making it harder for dirt to stick onto the paint while making it easier to wash the dirt off. Just take note that beading of water on the paint, if left untended will cause watermark when dried under the sun.
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Would like to check. For the sole purpose of maintaining white coloured paint to prevent it from turning yellowish in time, which is the best and cheapest way to do it.

1. Wash and wax regularly say once a week
2. Ceramic coating
3. Ppf
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post Jul 2 2023, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 1 2023, 11:52 PM)
Would like to check. For the sole purpose of maintaining white coloured paint to prevent it from turning yellowish in time, which is the best and cheapest way to do it.

1. Wash and wax regularly say once a week
2. Ceramic coating
3. Ppf
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I’m just your normal “cuci + water wax” guy, so cannot comment on ceramic coating. But from everything I’ve read on the highly informative Care Care & Detailing thread on this forum, all PPFs, no matter what price or marketing promises, will yellow over time. If that’s true, then PPF is probably the worst choice for a white car.
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post Jul 2 2023, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 2 2023, 12:27 AM)
I’m just your normal “cuci + water wax” guy, so cannot comment on ceramic coating. But from everything I’ve read on the highly informative Care Care & Detailing thread on this forum, all PPFs, no matter what price or marketing promises, will yellow over time. If that’s true, then PPF is probably the worst choice for a white car.
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Thanks for the information. Looks like wash and wax regularly would be the way to go.
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post Jul 2 2023, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 2 2023, 07:28 AM)
Thanks for the information. Looks like wash and wax regularly would be the way to go.
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And repaint on year 4/5 instead of coating/ppf cost.
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post Jul 20 2023, 10:20 PM

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Can never win here. I went for diamond coating because price similar to good detailing and you get free yearly maintenance for 3 years.

Did it 6mo's ago. Few days ago some motorcyclist scratched my car while it was parked and took off coating and paint. Can't win here.
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post Jul 21 2023, 08:10 AM

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I found one using TPU PPF - less than 4K for whole car. Do you think there be any problems when its time to peel it off for cheap PPF?
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post Jul 22 2023, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Jul 21 2023, 08:10 AM)
I found one using TPU PPF - less than 4K for whole car. Do you think there be any problems when its time to peel it off for cheap PPF?
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For 4K either is very thin type like 4 mil or lower and poor quality ones. My 8 mil PPF may peel off but didn’t damage my paint as it happen someone open the door way too wide and scuff my front fender.
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post Jul 22 2023, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jul 22 2023, 08:56 AM)
For 4K either is very thin type like 4 mil or lower and poor quality ones. My 8 mil PPF may peel off but didn’t damage my paint as it happen someone open the door way too wide and scuff my front fender.
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8.5mil TPU for 3888. 7.5mil for 2888
Got self healing

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post Jul 22 2023, 05:21 PM

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I had my cars in Sydney PPF'ed first and then ceramic coated. Ceramic Coating to help maintain the PPF and helps reduce the sun-fade that occurs. Both cars are parked in my garage, so they are unlikely to see much sun, but on the occasions that they do, at least I won't have to worry about paint being UV'ed away by Australia's deathly UV index.

Ceramic coating is also the best defence against bird shit splatter. It's literally wipe away baby bottom smooth.
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post Jul 23 2023, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Jul 22 2023, 01:48 PM)
8.5mil TPU for 3888. 7.5mil for 2888
Got self healing
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Full coverage? I got mine fully covered for 8K for mid size SUV. One thing great about PPF it retains the glossy mirror effect.
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jul 23 2023, 11:54 AM)
Full coverage? I got mine fully covered for 8K for mid size SUV. One thing great about PPF it retains the glossy mirror effect.
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Yes full car
Can go to roadside car wash after ppf? Or must go expensive car wash?

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post Jul 23 2023, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Jul 23 2023, 12:11 PM)
Yes full car
Can go to roadside car wash after ppf? Or must go expensive car wash?
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Any car wash you like. I prefer to wash it myself without using high pressure wash as I afraid of peeling off the PPF adhesive on the edge.
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post Jul 31 2023, 01:33 AM

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where and when did you get this done? can give review?
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post Jul 31 2023, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Jul 22 2023, 01:48 PM)
8.5mil TPU for 3888. 7.5mil for 2888
Got self healing
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where and when did you get this done? can give review?

This post has been edited by darkbizarro: Jul 31 2023, 01:35 AM
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post Jul 31 2023, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jul 23 2023, 10:44 PM)
Any car wash you like. I prefer to wash it myself without using high pressure wash as I afraid of peeling off the PPF adhesive on the edge.
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car with PPF, I still using pressure wash, can alter the hose end to make water expand.
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post Jul 31 2023, 05:49 PM

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Anybody knows where to so interior ppf (gear console, door switches)? A few shops are asking rm800~900
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 31 2023, 10:51 AM)
car with PPF, I still using pressure wash, can alter the hose end to make water expand.
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hihi, can you share your review of your ppf'ed car? is it full or partial. i'm thinking about doing it too but not too sure even after researching online.

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