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TSxSean
post Feb 5 2017, 08:50 PM, updated 9y ago

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Car coating or paint protection film not cheap and the price can repaint the whole car. What do u think?
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post Feb 5 2017, 09:01 PM

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Film better than coating ,

Coating seems like con job now, the coating itself also need care and protection

So the protection also need protection , wtf?
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post Feb 5 2017, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(xSean @ Feb 5 2017, 08:50 PM)
Car coating or paint protection film not cheap and the price can repaint the whole car. What do u think?
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Coating is a sacrificial layer..
PPF is to protect the paint job..

Both also need maintenance, like my friend car's PPF has irremovable dirt marks when the car was parked outside of the workshop under the hot sun and he ended up replacing the whole car's PPF..
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post Feb 5 2017, 09:30 PM

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Basically, it's all nonsense. The film is better than the coating but the film will also get scratched and faded and need to be replaced. Since the cost of the film is the same as repainting the car, you may as well wait until the paint is ruined and then repaint it.

There isn't anything you can do to keep your paint brand new unless you inspect it 3 times a day and spend a fortune removing stone chips etc as you go.

Live you life man, it's just paint and it's just a car.
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post Feb 6 2017, 09:01 PM

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Wrapping your car doesn't make sense. It costs more than a good quality respray and the film sure isn't going to last as long. In 2 years it will probably look so ugly that you have to tear it out.

Just accept that a daily use car is going to acquire some scratches, scuffs and dings. The only protection you need to do is to wax it every 2-3 months. Spend your money on other things.
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Good points by Ginny88 and roocarroll...just was planning on putting PPF on Proton X50...
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post Nov 25 2020, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(jason_spyboy @ Nov 25 2020, 10:40 AM)
Good points by Ginny88 and roocarroll...just was planning on putting PPF on Proton X50...
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Respraying presents another set of problems, like workmanship, paint quality, etc. It's better that you don't go down this route at all even though some people make it sound like it's a really great and easy thing, unless your paint is already oxidised and too thin to be brought back to life

Some PPF are advertised with self-healing capabilities and will not turn yellow. So far the price for an entire car is generally really expensive (10k<), and usually people get it done for the bonnet, bumper, and headlights only for this reason, and the rest of the car is protected either with coating or with regular application of wax/sealant

You should get it done minimum for the headlamps as it's just within RM100 to RM300, and it'll stop your headlamps from becoming oxidised and getting stone chips

This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Nov 25 2020, 10:59 AM
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post Nov 25 2020, 11:01 AM

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If car parked in covered place mostly, then coating enough (some cheaper ones just reapply every 6mnths or so), but honestly unless car is high value, both may not be worth doing laugh.gif but to each their own.

If parked outside and paint already faded, repaint & wax the hell out of it. Then rain self wash to remove dirt & rewax...thats the best way...like care for bonsai tree pulak.

Wrapping onto bad paint = peeling of paint when wrap comes off, remember that. Also imperfections on the body/paint will show on the wrap, as it takes the contours of the surface.
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QUOTE(jason_spyboy @ Nov 25 2020, 10:40 AM)
Good points by Ginny88 and roocarroll...just was planning on putting PPF on Proton X50...
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Car original paint are unable to duplicate. Nowadays PPF and coating are getting dirts cheap. I think full body PPF can get around 4/5k. So mostly people go with the combination of ceramic coating and front PPF for cheaper price. Probably around 3k +/-. Worth it in my opinion.

Applicable to new car only. If your car repainted cheap paint then no need lor. Protection also expansive than cheap paint
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What are the different of ppf in details? I got some shop offered rm1k for full front area for ppf, while some shop quoted almost rm6k.

Both said against yellowish problem and covered under warranty
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post Nov 26 2020, 09:42 AM

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Hi guys, I guess a lot people here didn't even use coating or PPF and just speculate and listen to rumors from friends that also do not even use them or from online source. So I will share some of my real experience with you all.

3 years ago, when all these coating things just pop-up, I did a 6 layers coating at c**** p*** for my CRV. I did not specifically take care of the coating, did not go back and do any "maintenance", didn't wash my car during MCO (not recommended because some stubborn dirt will stuck on coating), after 3 years, it was still "wet" and reflect light much better than a same color car that does not coat.

The car was also involved in minor accident also and have some car to car scratches, also easily polish away and yes, there was mark leftover but only can be seen in certain angle with sunlight.

I also parked my car in outdoor carpark of my condo during those time. And there were cats jumping onto the car bonnet and few scratches on the car body. However, due to coating, you can easily notice that compare to other cars, the scratch is not obvious at all and can be very easily polish away (not sacrificing your original clear coat but the coating layer itself.)

By the way, original clear coat can only last for 6 polishes (thickness = 1 paper). So coating is like a sacrificing layer for your polish work. 3 layers of proper coating equals to 1/3 thickness of a paper, so 10 layers of coating = 1 paper = another layer of clear coat depends on car made.

Now I bought a new BMW and sold the CRV higher than market value because the car still look extremely new compare to another same car & same color.

For the BMW, because from my own experience and know this coating work, I did a 10 layers coating plus front bumper PPF to prevent stone chip.

So let's talk about PPF. PPF is not godlike, there are 2 types of PPF, one is the expensive TPU (15k+ for full wrap), and another one is a cheaper variant (not TPU, can't remember the name).

TPU PPF only 40% sticky on your car body, so it can be removed and does not hurt your original paint. Yes, you have to remove PPF and rewrap every 5 years or just sell the car away. For TPU PPF, you cannot use high pressure jet to wash the car in close distance because as I mentioned, TPU PPF is only 40% sticky on your car and it can be torn off with high pressure.

For the cheaper variant (not TPU), once applied cannot be removed because of the glue properties on the cheaper PPF.

Does coating work for a shiny wet car like you wax it everyday? Yes from my experience.

Does it protect against scratches? No, it just make it less obvious and easier to fix.

Does PPF protect against scratches? Yes. (But not full force with sharp items la...)

Is PPF worry free? No, PPF is harder to take care than coating.

Should I wrap full car PPF? Yes if you have 10k+ to spend, it is the best protection you can get nowadays. No if you always send your car to bangla to wash and have to remind them everytime do not shoot the jet near the PPF, else prepare for rewrap. No if you just want to partially wrap the car and not wash it frequently because the color will age differently between PPF and non PPF area.

Hope it helps. Thanks.
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post Dec 2 2020, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(hOnGhOnG @ Nov 26 2020, 09:42 AM)
Hi guys, I guess a lot people here didn't even use coating or PPF and just speculate and listen to rumors from friends that also do not even use them or from online source. So I will share some of my real experience with you all.

3 years ago, when all these coating things just pop-up, I did a 6 layers coating at c**** p*** for my CRV. I did not specifically take care of the coating, did not go back and do any "maintenance", didn't wash my car during MCO (not recommended because some stubborn dirt will stuck on coating), after 3 years, it was still "wet" and reflect light much better than a same color car that does not coat.

The car was also involved in minor accident also and have some car to car scratches, also easily polish away and yes, there was mark leftover but only can be seen in certain angle with sunlight.

I also parked my car in outdoor carpark of my condo during those time. And there were cats jumping onto the car bonnet and few scratches on the car body. However, due to coating, you can easily notice that compare to other cars, the scratch is not obvious at all and can be very easily polish away (not sacrificing your original clear coat but the coating layer itself.)

By the way, original clear coat can only last for 6 polishes (thickness = 1 paper). So coating is like a sacrificing layer for your polish work. 3 layers of proper coating equals to 1/3 thickness of a paper, so 10 layers of coating = 1 paper = another layer of clear coat depends on car made.

Now I bought a new BMW and sold the CRV higher than market value because the car still look extremely new compare to another same car & same color.

For the BMW, because from my own experience and know this coating work, I did a 10 layers coating plus front bumper PPF to prevent stone chip.

So let's talk about PPF. PPF is not godlike, there are 2 types of PPF, one is the expensive TPU (15k+ for full wrap), and another one is a cheaper variant (not TPU, can't remember the name).

TPU PPF only 40% sticky on your car body, so it can be removed and does not hurt your original paint. Yes, you have to remove PPF and rewrap every 5 years or just sell the car away. For TPU PPF, you cannot use high pressure jet to wash the car in close distance because as I mentioned, TPU PPF is only 40% sticky on your car and it can be torn off with high pressure.

For the cheaper variant (not TPU), once applied cannot be removed because of the glue properties on the cheaper PPF.

Does coating work for a shiny wet car like you wax it everyday? Yes from my experience.

Does it protect against scratches? No, it just make it less obvious and easier to fix.

Does PPF protect against scratches? Yes. (But not full force with sharp items la...)

Is PPF worry free? No, PPF is harder to take care than coating.

Should I wrap full car PPF? Yes if you have 10k+ to spend, it is the best protection you can get nowadays. No if you always send your car to bangla to wash and have to remind them everytime do not shoot the jet near the PPF, else prepare for rewrap. No if you just want to partially wrap the car and not wash it frequently because the color will age differently between PPF and non PPF area.

Hope it helps. Thanks.
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Will coating make a white colour car easier to maintain?

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QUOTE(sushi77 @ Dec 2 2020, 03:19 PM)
Will coating make a white colour car easier to maintain?
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I just coated my white car. if easier to maintain what you mean is easier to wash = yes.

but white car you have to wash every week to properly maintain it due to easily visible water mark and yellowing issue in long run.
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QUOTE(sushi77 @ Dec 2 2020, 03:19 PM)
Will coating make a white colour car easier to maintain?
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Yes, because a good quality coat makes the car paint hydrophobic, making it harder for dirt to stick onto the paint while making it easier to wash the dirt off. Just take note that beading of water on the paint, if left untended will cause watermark when dried under the sun.
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Coating doesnt last long

Ceramic PRO only last me a few months
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QUOTE(hOnGhOnG @ Nov 26 2020, 09:42 AM)
Hi guys, I guess a lot people here didn't even use coating or PPF and just speculate and listen to rumors from friends that also do not even use them or from online source. So I will share some of my real experience with you all.

3 years ago, when all these coating things just pop-up, I did a 6 layers coating at c**** p*** for my CRV. I did not specifically take care of the coating, did not go back and do any "maintenance", didn't wash my car during MCO (not recommended because some stubborn dirt will stuck on coating), after 3 years, it was still "wet" and reflect light much better than a same color car that does not coat.

The car was also involved in minor accident also and have some car to car scratches, also easily polish away and yes, there was mark leftover but only can be seen in certain angle with sunlight.

I also parked my car in outdoor carpark of my condo during those time. And there were cats jumping onto the car bonnet and few scratches on the car body. However, due to coating, you can easily notice that compare to other cars, the scratch is not obvious at all and can be very easily polish away (not sacrificing your original clear coat but the coating layer itself.)

By the way, original clear coat can only last for 6 polishes (thickness = 1 paper). So coating is like a sacrificing layer for your polish work. 3 layers of proper coating equals to 1/3 thickness of a paper, so 10 layers of coating = 1 paper = another layer of clear coat depends on car made.

Now I bought a new BMW and sold the CRV higher than market value because the car still look extremely new compare to another same car & same color.

For the BMW, because from my own experience and know this coating work, I did a 10 layers coating plus front bumper PPF to prevent stone chip.

So let's talk about PPF. PPF is not godlike, there are 2 types of PPF, one is the expensive TPU (15k+ for full wrap), and another one is a cheaper variant (not TPU, can't remember the name).

TPU PPF only 40% sticky on your car body, so it can be removed and does not hurt your original paint. Yes, you have to remove PPF and rewrap every 5 years or just sell the car away. For TPU PPF, you cannot use high pressure jet to wash the car in close distance because as I mentioned, TPU PPF is only 40% sticky on your car and it can be torn off with high pressure.

For the cheaper variant (not TPU), once applied cannot be removed because of the glue properties on the cheaper PPF.

Does coating work for a shiny wet car like you wax it everyday? Yes from my experience.

Does it protect against scratches? No, it just make it less obvious and easier to fix.

Does PPF protect against scratches? Yes. (But not full force with sharp items la...)

Is PPF worry free? No, PPF is harder to take care than coating.

Should I wrap full car PPF? Yes if you have 10k+ to spend, it is the best protection you can get nowadays. No if you always send your car to bangla to wash and have to remind them everytime do not shoot the jet near the PPF, else prepare for rewrap. No if you just want to partially wrap the car and not wash it frequently because the color will age differently between PPF and non PPF area.

Hope it helps. Thanks.
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I read through your comments and thanks for educating. It was very useful. My concern is stone chip and particularly im worried about the front bumper and hood. what would you suggest? coating or ppf. And also budget is my concern icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(blaze91 @ Jan 22 2021, 02:51 PM)
I read through your comments and thanks for educating. It was very useful. My concern is stone chip and particularly im worried about the front bumper and hood. what would you suggest? coating or ppf. And also budget is my concern  icon_question.gif
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Definitely ppf for stone ship. If u take the most expensive coating around rm5k also can't prevent stone chip.

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guys how much usually for full front PPF including front bumper, front fenders, full hood (bonnet), front headlamps, side mirror, door handle?
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Don't need those. Just give it some hard wax every 6 months. My can of wax was just rm 40, I use it every 4 months can last me 2 years.
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QUOTE(roocarroll @ Feb 5 2017, 09:30 PM)
Basically, it's all nonsense. The film is better than the coating but the film will also get scratched and faded and need to be replaced. Since the cost of the film is the same as repainting the car, you may as well wait until the paint is ruined and then repaint it.

There isn't anything you can do to keep your paint brand new unless you inspect it 3 times a day and spend a fortune removing stone chips etc as you go.

Live you life man, it's just paint and it's just a car.
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Agree x100

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