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 Car Tint Advise Needed, RayTech, VKool, Huper Optic, 3M or .....

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lonely143
post Jul 15 2013, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ntdote @ Jul 14 2013, 01:16 AM)
Hi guys,

Couldnt get an answer elsewhere, so i try here.

The darkest V-kool tint on car, which is very dark. Can the car go past the singapore custom?
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The darkest series is V-Kool 40 which about 42% VLT
I not sure you can pass SG custom or not but I thought Singapore do not have
rules on the tint ? hmm.gif
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post Jul 15 2013, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(zerox @ Jul 15 2013, 03:52 PM)
after some survey, i left with 2 choices,

1. VKool Elite (FWS) + Windshield 50 (4mm) (RWS + sides)
2. HO Sech60 (FWS) +C50-4mil(Sides)+C50(RWS)

i wonder which is better... or are there better options?
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Have you visit showroom to view or test the film?
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post Jul 16 2013, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(fremont88 @ Jul 15 2013, 10:35 PM)
Is vkool 40 recommended for cars? I don't mind if jpj non compliant. Just want good heat resistance. Tks.
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Yes, the best among V-Kool film. actually 42% not really dark.
On the road should be ok but not PUSPAKOM
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post Jul 17 2013, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Dan2373 @ Jul 17 2013, 12:51 AM)
Hi there, I have tinted Vkool Elite (FWS & RWS) + Vkool 8mil (side) for one week, so far so good and 100% guaranteed it is smart tag & GPS user friendly...
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You did at my shop ! How is the performance ya?
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post Jul 21 2013, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jul 18 2013, 05:36 PM)
My car currently is tinted with Ecotint + security flim. The tint itself and another 4mm security flim on top of each other. Double layer. It was tinted 4 years or so back so at that time, hybrid tint doesn't exist yet.

Now, I am tinting a new car soon again. Which is better? I have the option of doing the same or choose hybrid. My question is, which is stronger? Double layer or single layer. Thanks
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No matter how thick you put in either 1 or 2 layer, your glass window still break.
The safety film purpose is shattered resistant.

QUOTE(monocle @ Jul 20 2013, 08:28 PM)
Sahara Tint is local brand?
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www.saharax.com
Its HOME BRAND, the film is from USA
I couldn't find any international website about this product


QUOTE(moskau12 @ Jul 20 2013, 09:28 PM)
can i tint security tinted for my side windows eventhough i already tint with vkool?

ive plan to install security tinted for my front passenger and rear left passenger side. How much it will cost?
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You can but the product warranty will be void. You can install clear 4Mil or 8Mil safety film and
that will cost you around RM100 - 300 per pcs
No matter how thick you put in either 1 or 2 layer, your glass window still break.
The safety film purpose is shattered resistant.

QUOTE(silrave @ Jul 21 2013, 01:54 PM)
hi wanna ask is it car tint very expensive?
any difference we straight go to shop n buy coupon from on9 ?
my old car 20 years old honda civic wanna put tint on it XD
can i know which brand and shop recommended at klang valley area?
and price with not so expensive ^^
if buy tint by myself and stick with it is it cheaper?
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Depends on your budget =)
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post Jul 21 2013, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Jul 21 2013, 06:57 PM)
haha if i not a rich user
lol how much does it cost a tinting?
cause my car is old
air cond not so powerfull and ...u know the weather haha
so i plan to get a tinting
how much does it cost? budget is it possible around 150?
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Try to search at groupon, you can find the price between rm200 - rm400
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post Jul 22 2013, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(4JA1 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:16 PM)
Hi All.. newbie here.. i've been reading last 20 page of this thread and not much reviews for solar gard brand.
i've been quoted rm800 for solar gard tint to be installed on my wife myvi. is it a good price? the salesperson told me  this Solar Gard is US brand. furthermore, the shop located at JB and they only sell V-Kool and solar gard brands only. they also claimed that for most of sultan johor family cars, they did the tinting job using v-kool.

is it reasonable  solar gard full car tint price for myvi rm800 + free peel off old tint?

i've also been quoted from another shop, 3m crystalline 60 for rm600 only fws.. is it ok?

since my budget is limited.. maybe i'll go for solar gard full car tint.. please advise ..

thanks
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The price you get is quite reasonable =) what is the product name?
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post Jul 26 2013, 09:39 AM

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This is good to share around about the infra red rejection

http://advancedfilmfl.net/files/72745-6383..._Rev0709_lo.pdf
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post Aug 4 2013, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(fit @ Aug 4 2013, 11:19 AM)
Thanks. WHat is the heat rejection rate for VKool Elite ? SECH 60 is TSER 54%
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VKool elite TSer is 55%, it still better than sech 60%.
Simple reason,

VKool Elite VLT 70% , TSER 55%
Sech 60 VLT60% ++, TSER 54%

If the film darker the TSER should be better
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post Aug 6 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Aug 6 2013, 12:19 PM)
need some explanation here..

i understand that main spec for tint is TSER, how about shading coefficient? the value for shading coefficient higher better or lower better?

how about TSER VS SHADING COEFFICIENT?

i am looking forward a premium tint for white color car.. slightly VLR will look nice? or just slightly dark?
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Another smart consumer =D SC is very important.
The lower is better -)

TSER + SC = 100%
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post Aug 6 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Aug 6 2013, 05:53 PM)
thanks for compliment~

its actually takes quite a lot of home work, from know nothing about tinting to now.. all those IRR VLT TSER SC was kinda total stranger before.

i am looking forward for decent to pro heat rejection tint, with VLT 35% plus minus for sides, 50% for front.. i understand about jpj limit, everyone has different needs and likes.. well, just say i like to dig nose while driving.. dun wanna someday found my photo on FB digging nose doing 90km/h..

anyone can suggest to me tint i need? what is the current TSER highest value in market? what is the current lowest SC value in market? must be compatible with GPS and smart tag, coz i got a built-in GPS, and i aint gonna removed it.

for TSER and SC value, is there any official equipment to test? i know there is a lot forumer selling claim this claim that but who knows the value? i aware that 3M got official test for IRR value..
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When you select windows film, you have select the VLT% then only look into SC and TSER.
Normally, windows film company recognize by IWFA http://www.iwfa.com/ always show SC vs TSER in their specifications. The windows film made from Japan, Korea or China did not have SC reading.

Measuring TSER & SC is very difficult as we need all the basic info about the glass and its surrounding such as temperature, thickness of glass and more. This normally apply to commercial or residential building.

To understand more, read here
http://advancedfilmfl.net/files/72745-6383..._Rev0709_lo.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shading_coefficient
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post Aug 7 2013, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Aug 7 2013, 01:42 AM)
bro, your second link to pdf file broken or what. bcause it shows error..
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Sorry this should be ok
http://advancedfilmfl.net/files/72745-6383..._Rev0709_lo.pdf
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post Aug 11 2013, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Lord Gitsy @ Aug 11 2013, 04:18 PM)
I am Window Film consultant for Raytech International Window Film. I will post more accurate information to all consumer from time to time. Please visit my link, or like us in Raytech Window Film facebook for more information.

Raytech International Website : www.raytechfilms.com

Topic Link : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2918371/+0#entry62379331

Facebook Link : https://www.facebook.com/pages/Raytech-Tint...112324005459022
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Since the Raytech film from USA and well recognize by IWFA. Why the product specification do not have Shading Coefficient or Solar Heat Gain Coefficient reading? It is very important to have this data to determine the film TSER performance.
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post Aug 12 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Lord Gitsy @ Aug 12 2013, 10:07 AM)
The Link to Raytech Solar Film product list:

http://raytech.com.my/solar-control-window-film/
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Thx, I just miss out =)

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post Aug 12 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Aug 12 2013, 05:34 PM)
i do some readings, quite a lot actually..

found out VLR actually is most contribute to TSER under "Visible Light", is it true?

and the lower value of VLT, it helps for TSER also. and IRR actually is the rest of UV and Visible Light, means even 90%+ IRR, it only means that 90% of the Infra Red Light, which its not visible by human eyes and its only about half of solar energy.

kinda confuse to tinted specs, might be some sort of marketing. so if we are looking for very good heat rejection, gonna go for highest VLR, Lower VLT, Higher IRR? i am feeling like wanna ignore IRR as IRR ratings on different wave show different result, and we cannot confirm in what range of wave for the brand to post out their IRR value.

i am hearing many feedback that pro rating of IRR tint still not very good on heat rejection, while some tint with 85%+- did better than 90%++, 93%, or even 95%. all brand should have a guide line or standards for all those rating, and how the value being carry out.
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To select the best heat rejection film, you have to determine the VLT that you want because it will affect the rest of the performance. For instant example,

We have
1. Spectrally selective window film means the film always have high VLT, Low VLR and High Rejection
For example, the spec will be 70% VLT, 8% VLR, 99% UV,0.5 SC and 55% TSER. This film is more suitable for automotive to meet up our JPJ rules.

2. Non spectrally selective window film means the film can have better performance by lower their VLT and increase
their VLR. For example, the spec will be 20% VLT, 50% VLR, 99% UV, 0.2 SC and 80% TSER. This will against the JPJ rules, thus it more suitable for architectural application.

Lets talk about IRR, this bit technical. We measure IRR in nanometer. In nanometer we measure

1. UV (0-380 nanometer)
2. VLT (380-780 nanometer)
3. IRR (780-up to 2400 nanometer)

For the 1st and 2nd reading, the measurement of nanometer is short, therefore the percentage is always 100% accurate, that's why most the windows film claim have 99% of UV rejection.

When come to IRR measurement, some of the windows film claim they have 95% IRR rejection but when tested with equipment such as 500 watt heat lamp, it burn faster than the one who claim have 90% IRR. This because the windows film that come IRR 95% take their IRR reading at 780-1000 nanometer or even lower. That where the films performs the best meanwhile the windows film that have 90% IRR have their reading at 780-2000 nanometer or even more. Read here for more

http://advancedfilmfl.net/files/72745-6383..._Rev0709_lo.pdf

Some of the HOME BRAND do not have the accurate specification. They normally buy the windows film in bulk and rebrand or remodified the windows film with great specification to boost the sales. That's why important go for International Brand because we always send our product to lab testing and get verification.

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post Aug 14 2013, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Aug 14 2013, 02:37 AM)
Thus it is going back again to my point of choosing a reputable film like V-kool, Ecotint, 3M or HO. You might be paying a slightly premium price but you know it can be trusted. What I meant in my comment earlier is those cheap-not-so-reputable tints which offers high % of TSER but in fact they are using pariah standards of testing.

It doesn't matter where the film comes from. If 3M is to shift to China, it will be still a better product compare to a lot of other brands that is coming from more superior countries.
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Yes, branding is very important. Do you expect Proton have same quality with Honda? We put more effort, research, consumers feedback, consumers needs and etc in the product. As windows film seller, product knowledge is necessary skill for us to explain to the consumers. If you have encounter salesperson that could not answer any your basic question, I guess you can just walk away from that shop.

I'm just sharing this rating by NFRC, http://search.nfrc.org/search/apd_film/fil...ch_default.aspx
My company product

Southwall Technology - Huper Optik and V-Kool
Saint Gobain - Solar Gard

This one of the best website to prove the ratings in US. http://www.nfrc.org/WindowRatings/

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post Aug 19 2013, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Alzaowner @ Aug 19 2013, 06:18 PM)
Getting new Honda Jazz and salesman is giving 3M voucher. Is it worth it? Tint my Alza with raytech few years ago. Am satisfy with quality, so far so good. heat cooling really good n i dont feel hot driving.

thinking to go back with raytech but salesman keep saying 3M voucher good. Can I just tell him i want to tint the car myself?
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Of course you can -) just ignore what SA tell you and go search yourself
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post Aug 20 2013, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(whitewhite @ Aug 19 2013, 08:16 PM)
Anyone here heard before V-armour tint?? as my salesman is giving me free RM1200 voucher for the tinted with security tint, any comment on this brand of Tint? thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(accumulator @ Aug 19 2013, 08:24 PM)
Anyone hear about WINSHIELD? SA recommended WINSHIELD with 30% discount for all WINSHIELD products. I'm actually interest in WINSHIELD Demigod 85 (5 mil) or WINSHIELD(6mil) with the specs and pricing. Is it good? Can someone advise?
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Both also HOME BRAND, nothing no mention except the thickness is good.
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post Aug 21 2013, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(furiousangel @ Aug 21 2013, 05:29 PM)
using Raytech for my 2 current ride, has to be the best tint that I have tinted compare to my previous cars' tint. Bad experience with tints on my previous cars Camry and Serena. Tinted Llumar diamond6 and vkool elite 70. Went back Llumar 3 times in one month for warranty n the bubbles problems are not solved yet, in the end they tell me it's memang like that and i've to accept it!! Not to mention the heat shield is ridiculously low even my friend's car "cap ayam" tinted feels cooler than it. I dun know why.

vkool is much cooler but my smart tag is undetectable, which is a trouble i nid 2 bear with as i was told. Yellow dots "rust" appeared after 1 yr plus, went to PJ HQ for warranty claim but they told me it's normal and cannot claim because the films are made by metal.

IMHO, raytech is a good choice. Heat shield is as good like vkool if you ask me but i will prefer raytech for their problem free films and reasonable pricin. Just my 2cents icon_rolleyes.gif
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Are you serious that you cant claim the warranty due to rusty? Give me call at 016 9269 780 I help you to claim if still within the warranty. Make sure you have warranty card with you.
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QUOTE(johnny82 @ Aug 24 2013, 07:30 AM)
Dear sifus, I'm bout to get my new altis soon... I asked the sales man he said the car is tinted already with what solar tint? ..and got 7 years warranty .. Currently I'm doubting how good it is.. Should I tear it down do new one? Or double tint it?
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Its either their own brand or Ecotint. But normally those free tint the quality is low. You can remove and put new layer as double layer is not recommended because it will void product warranty.



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