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 Car Tint Advise Needed, RayTech, VKool, Huper Optic, 3M or .....

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jchong
post Aug 14 2012, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(Eldrow @ Aug 13 2012, 03:35 PM)
Just did my new F30 at Vessolar/Llumar Puchong. Very good PR, unfortunately, I'm not too pleased with their response on the quality of workmanship when I told them that the side glass/windshield had dirt trapped in between. Granted it is only less than 2 weeks, but will monitor and see if it is really 'like that wan wor'. I've had my other cars done elsewhere, cheaper, and in a cleaner dust free environment to prevent such issues from even arising in the first place!

I'll take my rm3k+ elsewhere with the next car. Pretty sure there are better and more responsible installers who'd do a much better job smile.gif
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I think the Llumar installer should redo that section with the dirt trapped in it.
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post Aug 19 2012, 08:49 AM

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C40 is not a security tint.

I think the JPJ rule has been mentioned before, so technically how you expect Sech60 and C40 to pass?
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post Aug 25 2012, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(beeru @ Aug 24 2012, 11:39 PM)
I've learnt that Sech60 is a metallic based film, so is it a bit pointless to go for Huper Optik then for its woo haa ceramic greatness?
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The main advantage of Sech60 is higher VLT and yet with good TSER and rejection. If you don't need the higher VLT, then just use C40.

U just need to understand the pros and cons of each item.
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post Aug 25 2012, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(ahhon83 @ Aug 25 2012, 09:57 AM)
Tats y a little bit regret after put sech60 whole car, i would recommend c40 for side and rws, sech60 on FWS only. I think this is the best and not easily see thru, safer from bikers robber....
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Sech60 for whole car still gives very good heat rejection, why regret? Unless you're saying it's not dark enough as compared to C40.

Didn't you do your research before choosing the film?
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post Aug 30 2012, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(plane80 @ Aug 30 2012, 02:09 PM)
Using Sech60 for the FWS...is it harder to dry???becoz my others window using c40 which dry already...
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Yes I've heard that Sech60 takes longer to dry compared to C-series.
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post Sep 10 2012, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Sep 10 2012, 09:41 PM)
Although 3M and V-Kool film is made from metal, the film is electronic device friendly.

Then how come got a lot of user comments that face problem using Smart Tag with 3M Crystalline and V-Kool?
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post Sep 17 2012, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(nkw10977 @ Sep 17 2012, 06:35 AM)
if I compare the LLumar diamond/crystal 6 with 3M crystaline, the price is almost same, which is diamond6 RM2700, 3M crystaline 70/60 RM2400, crystal6 RM2000, which i should choose?
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Those must be the list price. Definitely for 3M Crystalline can get below 2k (for large sedan).
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post Sep 18 2012, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(youngman28 @ Sep 18 2012, 11:47 AM)
Interest for HO for my sedan car, the most important is heat rejection, will used C60 for FWS, and the rest C40, or C40 for whole car,  prefer green /dack film, can PM the best price for this ? any brand near to Klang?
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Strangely the spec for C60 not as good as C70. Since you want better heat rejection might as well go C40 for whole car.
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post Sep 18 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(youngman28 @ Sep 18 2012, 03:19 PM)
Well, if i tint the whole car with C40, do i face polis kacau when road block by polis/JPJ?
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Well technically even C60 doesn't meet JPJ requirements. Even if you put C60 on FWS, if kena stop and check it will not pass also.

Main thing is to find a shop that will cover the C40 whole car installation, i.e. got saman they will kau tim for you. smile.gif
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post Sep 21 2012, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(christinelcy @ Sep 21 2012, 09:55 AM)
what car is that cost 1.4k?
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Probably small or mid size car.
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post Oct 9 2012, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(mrkudin @ Oct 9 2012, 03:43 PM)
Hi Guys,

Based on the spec (TSER and IRR) for 3M and HO below, can we say that 3M is better?
Any real life experience using this 2 film...

                VLT TSER IRR UVR VLR
Crystalline 40 39% 59% 97% 99.90% 7%
Huper Optik C40 42% 55% 80% 99% 9%
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Yes, the spec for 3M is better but be aware might have problem with Smart Tag (as some users have reported). If you don't use Smart Tag then no worries.
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post Oct 9 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(charlieboy61 @ Oct 9 2012, 03:56 PM)
Hi Guys,

Been reading all these pots because I want to tint my camry. Have more or less decided on Huper Optik. From reading all these posts, the optimal/best combination seems to be Sech 60 for the front windscreen and C40 for the side and rear.

I am worried whether this will pass the JPJ regulations. JPJ regulation states that Front Windscreen should permit not less than 70% of light transmission and back and side window  permit not less than 50% light transmission.

The specs for Sech 60 is 59VLT and for C 40 is 42VLT. So if this is installed, can pass the JPJ test. I don't want any summon.

Grateful if someone could PM me the cost.
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As you can see from the JPJ requirement, HO will not pass the VLT. How do you expect HO to pass JPJ test since the regulations already stated in black & white?

Anyway, the workaround solution is that some shops will help to settle the summons (if u kena).
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post Oct 13 2012, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(charlieboy61 @ Oct 10 2012, 09:57 PM)
So if i want to comply with jpj regulations, which specification for ho tint should i use. Pls advise. Come to think of it, heat reduction is more important than darker tint.
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The JPJ regulations already spelled out above, so follow them: 70% for FWS and 50% for the rest. So the obvious choice would be C70 and C50.

In general darker tint will have greater heat rejection. So don't expect C70 to reject as much heat as C50.

This post has been edited by jchong: Oct 13 2012, 05:55 PM
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post Oct 13 2012, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Oct 13 2012, 09:03 PM)
You're wrong ! C70 heat rejection is better than C50. Check the spec and test the film you will know.

Which spec are you referring to? IR Rejection?

I'm looking at TSER.
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post Oct 14 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Oct 14 2012, 02:15 AM)
Have you test both film before? Use the VLT vs IRR to compare =)
TSER apply on architectural purpose


I understand VKOOL likes to use IRR to measure heat rejection.

However, some people feel IRR doesn't give the true heat performance and TSER is a better measure. Have a look at these threads:
http://www.tintdude.com/forum/index.php/to...84-tser-vs-irr/
http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=95090

No I haven't tested C70 vs C50, only vs C40.

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post Oct 15 2012, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Oct 14 2012, 09:38 PM)
Yes you are right, the IRR is mrkt gimmick nowadays. 
Yes according to IWFA, the film performance is measure in wavelength, SHGC vs TSER
Its hard to explain here cause is too technical  sweat.gif

But when you test C50 and C70, you will find that C70 will works better.
Its weird but it is truth.


When you say test you mean using a heat lamp?
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post Oct 26 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Oct 25 2012, 05:43 PM)
Not sure c40 all round will make the tint very dark. My seat is light grey in color though.hmm....
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C40 isn't really very dark.
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post Oct 30 2012, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(maru @ Oct 29 2012, 10:57 PM)
hi sifu

i looking tint for my forte....

prefer solar instead security....

which brand to choose? too many...headache
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What is your budget?
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post Nov 19 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(dreamKrusher @ Nov 19 2012, 12:09 PM)
i'm considering two options. as mentioned.
budget? appr 1-3k, depending on is it worth the value and benefits it provide.
for long term usage, new car, doesnt want to get the hassle of peeling, bubbly, etc condition after few years down the road.
this car will be subjected to heat under the sun due to lack of parking space.

what option do you provide for front, rear n side mirror? safety n non-safety.
we in malaysia are living in warm climate, so the heat rejection will be "benefited" most of the time.
safety is, for once in a blue moon if we get unlucky getting picked by baddies.

that why i am asking for the price and value in it (tint).
i'm a bit nauseated right now, just woke up.
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I think if you spend 1.5k - 2k for the branded tints like 3M, Huper or V-Kool it will meet your needs for a quality heat-rejecting tint.
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post Nov 23 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Nov 23 2012, 03:16 PM)
Go for International Brand =)

Well as for Smart Tag, sometimes only 1 or 2 out of 50 cars can't pass Smart Tag due to film.


So few? Seems like got more than that who complain about 3M Crystalline cannot pass Smart Tag.

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the film is good in infra red rejection =) Too good until the film block the film.


Yeah, customer has to weigh pros and cons. Pro: high IR rejection. Con: risk cannot pass Smart Tag.

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