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1tanmee
post Feb 14 2018, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 12 2018, 10:18 PM)
Yes, one should not pump air to the maximum pressure indicated,  as like 51 psi for some tyres.
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How much would the air pressure increases if driving for long hours during the hot day? It should be about 4-6psi?
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:20 PM

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My rule of thumb is about 4 psi.
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post Feb 15 2018, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 14 2018, 10:20 PM)
My rule of thumb is about 4 psi.
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So if max allowed is 51psi, max air pressure can put is 47psi. Anyways, 40+psi is already on the high side dy. I usually pump 31front/28back.

Will try pump more and see the effect on driving/braking
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post Feb 19 2018, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 15 2018, 08:17 PM)
So if max allowed is 51psi, max air pressure can put is 47psi. Anyways, 40+psi is already on the high side dy. I usually pump 31front/28back.

Will try pump more and see the effect on driving/braking
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Update on my earlier post...

I pumped 34front/32back.

Car feels more agile, but rattles/shakes more. Braking distance increases, and feels less safe (lesser contact to ground?). Fuel economy-wise, hard to guess. Macam no significant difference
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post Feb 20 2018, 07:29 PM

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For sedan, does it make sense to pump same air pressure for both front and rear?
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post Feb 21 2018, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 20 2018, 07:29 PM)
For sedan, does it make sense to pump same air pressure for both front and rear?
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My Avanza specifies 31 front and 35 rear.
I pumped 38 psi, and now 41 psi on all four tyres ...........................
for its maximum tyre loading and maximum tyre road speed which isn't required for the Avanza, but fine for the tyres anyway.

This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 21 2018, 10:52 AM
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post Feb 21 2018, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 21 2018, 10:52 AM)
My Avanza specifies 31 front and 35 rear.
I pumped 38 psi, and now 41 psi on all four tyres ...........................
for its maximum tyre loading and maximum tyre road speed which isn't required for the Avanza, but fine for the tyres anyway.
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Must be epic bouncy flex.gif
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post Feb 21 2018, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 21 2018, 10:52 AM)
My Avanza specifies 31 front and 35 rear.
I pumped 38 psi, and now 41 psi on all four tyres ...........................
for its maximum tyre loading and maximum tyre road speed which isn't required for the Avanza, but fine for the tyres anyway.
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What are you aiming for in pumping more than the recommended air pressure? Is it fuel economy and/or lesser frequency to pump air and/or fuel economy? Curious to know
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post Feb 21 2018, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 21 2018, 09:51 PM)
What are you aiming for in pumping more than the recommended air pressure? Is it fuel economy and/or lesser frequency to pump air and/or fuel economy? Curious to know
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More for agility ... and then for fuel economy, yet stay within specs of tyres in question.
Also note tyre pressure drops by about 3 psi in every 1-1.5 month of use .
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post Feb 21 2018, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Feb 21 2018, 03:52 PM)
Must be epic bouncy  flex.gif
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... not really with good road surface in KL/Subang Jaya areas, other than safety bumps within Taman where I typically move at 15-25 km/hr.
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post Feb 22 2018, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 21 2018, 10:15 PM)
More for agility ... and then for fuel economy, yet stay within specs of tyres in question.
Also note tyre pressure drops by about 3 psi in every 1-1.5 month of use .
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Fair enough. Anyway, no significant longer braking distance?
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post Feb 22 2018, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 22 2018, 12:24 AM)
Fair enough. Anyway, no significant longer braking distance?
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Longer, yes.
Significant, no .
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post Feb 22 2018, 08:46 AM

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u want comfort, u pump air near to oem spec (always more, never less than oem spec)

oem pressure is their tested pressure which gives best comfort without sacrificing performance (or issit the way around, forgot). usually la.

u want best performance, u pump higher pressure, but never exceed max load pressure by tyre manufacturer. u need to find the best sweetspot for ur car. meaning experimenting urself. theres no 'one pressure to rule em all' for this. deswai race car oso need to find their right tyre pressure for every track, sometimes right pressure means 1-2 sec difference in lap time.

higher pressure gip better performance (grip, fuel economy, less rolling resistance (last one im not sure tongue.gif) but ull be sacrificing alot on comfort.

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post Feb 22 2018, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 21 2018, 10:18 PM)
... not really with good road surface in KL/Subang Jaya areas, other than safety bumps within Taman where I typically move at 15-25 km/hr.
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Maybe the additional ride height/suspension travel mask the harshness quite well.

I did something similar to my sedan, quite close to maximum recommended, and the car feels like it was on adjustables set to harder setting. So i dial down 10-15kpa for my preferred setting.
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 22 2018, 08:46 AM)
u want comfort, u pump air near to oem spec (always more, never less than oem spec)

oem pressure is their tested pressure which gives best comfort without sacrificing performance (or issit the way around, forgot). usually la.

u want best performance, u pump higher pressure, but never exceed max load pressure by tyre manufacturer. u need to find the best sweetspot for ur car. meaning experimenting urself. theres no 'one pressure to rule em all' for this. deswai race car oso need to find their right tyre pressure for every track, sometimes right pressure means 1-2 sec difference in lap time.

higher pressure gip better performance (grip, fuel economy, less rolling resistance (last one im not sure tongue.gif) but ull be sacrificing alot on comfort.
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Less rolling resistance and better grip? Wont less rolling resistance means less grip?
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post Mar 4 2018, 06:13 PM

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If manufacturer recommends 32front/30back, make sense to put front/back to 32psi?
Both front/back tyres same size
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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Mar 4 2018, 06:13 PM)
If manufacturer recommends 32front/30back, make sense to put front/back to 32psi?
Both front/back tyres same size
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Yes if you are carrying passenger + luggage.
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post Mar 8 2018, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 20 2018, 07:29 PM)
For sedan, does it make sense to pump same air pressure for both front and rear?
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Mine front and rear ate diff profile but I pump same 35 psi! The car feel lighter. Lol!
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post Mar 8 2018, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 21 2018, 10:52 AM)
My Avanza specifies 31 front and 35 rear.
I pumped 38 psi, and now 41 psi on all four tyres ...........................
for its maximum tyre loading and maximum tyre road speed which isn't required for the Avanza, but fine for the tyres anyway.
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blink.gif ! What's your tyre profile? Most is 15 inch rite ? 38 psi? rclxub.gif
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post Mar 8 2018, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 8 2018, 10:32 PM)
blink.gif ! What's your tyre profile? Most is 15 inch rite ? 38 psi? rclxub.gif
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185/70R14 88H tyres.


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