QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Feb 2 2017, 11:41 AM)
Deadlift: Yeah slightly rounded on the negative, brace ur core and squeeze ur shoulder blade through out
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Feb 2 2017, 11:41 AM) Deadlift: Yeah slightly rounded on the negative, brace ur core and squeeze ur shoulder blade through out |
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Feb 2 2017, 01:17 PM
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Feb 2 2017, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(Npad @ Feb 2 2017, 01:10 PM) What? How do you squeeze your shoulder blades during deadlift? You're supposed to flex your lats to maintain upper back tightness. Imagine trying to bend the bar around your legs and rotate your arms as if to touch your triceps to your lats. For lower back, you brace with your core by breathing into your obliques rather than into your chest. Chris Duffin made a good video about this on youtube. Ideally, the entire back, upper and lower, is solid and moves as a single non-flexible unit. Erm i dont know man, that's the only way i could keep my chest up previously, i think it's actually feels like what u described anyway. Now it's more of natural to me.Bro, do u have the link of video u mentioned? Gonna look it up when im home. Thanks in advance |
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Feb 2 2017, 02:02 PM
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So I just did some research on flat heel vs heel up in bench press and it seems like it is not much of a concern if I'm not planning to compete in the future because some competition allowed heel up during bench press and others would demand your feet to be flat on ground. It's also easier to incorporate proper legs drive with the heel up so I guess I will stick to my form. Of course if I'm wrong please let me know, perhaps my research is not sufficient
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Feb 2 2017, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 2 2017, 01:00 PM) 1 February 2017 Hey bro.Following the advise if you guys who replied here, I added 5kg in this workout yesterday. I started each exercises with 2 warm up set using the previous starting weights. It was OK, still fairly easy to complete each exercises except for the row where I have to rest for a full 3 minutes between sets. I arrived late to the gym and it was closing by the time I'm doing my row so I didn't get enough rest for the later sets which result in my bad form. Also, I ordered 1.25kg plates, should be able to start training with progressive overload next week onwards Workout A Squat » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « *Squat was ok I guess. I tried to brace my core in each rep* Bench Press » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « *With the added weight, it's harder to get the bar path correctly, but I'm trying my best* Bend over row » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « *I struggle with my form in this exercise because I didn't get enough rest in between sets. The gym was closing and I was the last person there so I tried to finish it ASAP* My 2 cents. Squats - what I see is, you are bending knees first during your descend. Try to learn the "hinge" at the hip side. Unhinge (ass / butt goes to the back) your hips, and then knees down after that. On squats, it's not the knees first that make you go downwards, it's your hips, lower back, and then knees. Like how you take a shit on the toilet bowl. Don't know how to explain, haha. Bench Press - the bar path is never straight. Don't worry about it. They say it's almost like a J. Bend over row - this looks like you are working out only the upper back / shoulders. Try to bend up a bit more and then do your rows. Cheers. |
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Feb 2 2017, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(zipitup @ Feb 2 2017, 02:06 PM) Hey bro. Is this article what you mean? Sitting back vs sitting down?My 2 cents. Squats - what I see is, you are bending knees first during your descend. Try to learn the "hinge" at the hip side. Unhinge (ass / butt goes to the back) your hips, and then knees down after that. On squats, it's not the knees first that make you go downwards, it's your hips, lower back, and then knees. Like how you take a shit on the toilet bowl. Don't know how to explain, haha. Bench Press - the bar path is never straight. Don't worry about it. They say it's almost like a J. Bend over row - this looks like you are working out only the upper back / shoulders. Try to bend up a bit more and then do your rows. Cheers. Trying to research more on how to sit back properly during squat This post has been edited by RyoKenzaki: Feb 2 2017, 05:18 PM |
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Feb 2 2017, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 2 2017, 05:17 PM) Is this article what you mean? Sitting back vs sitting down? Remember "Ass back first" then go down.Trying to research more on how to sit back properly during squat A few references: https://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/strength-t...squat-properly/ http://thechalkboardmag.com/the-perfect-sq...in-2-steps#sl=4 |
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Feb 2 2017, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(zipitup @ Feb 2 2017, 05:28 PM) Remember "Ass back first" then go down. Thank you for the link, will read up after work tonight A few references: https://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/strength-t...squat-properly/ http://thechalkboardmag.com/the-perfect-sq...in-2-steps#sl=4 Really appreciate it |
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Feb 3 2017, 08:28 AM
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I am super glad that you started. Keep it up. Keep that hunger and learn the form. I am still learning and the hunger you have now will bring you a long way in every aspect. I know it did that for me.
Some of my personal q's that worked for me which might not be for you. Squat - Put the bar latch a hole lower. So that you do not need to tip toe when you unrack. Go under the bar, tighten your shoulder blade, stabalise the bar before unracking. Don't rush into unrack as unstable bar on your back can be dangerous and energy wasting trying to stabalise it off your back. Always reset ie exhale out at the top and inhale brace core at the top before going down again. I wouldn't worry too much about foot positioning. I just squat as if I am squatting without anybar. Squat should feel natural. Start with the feeling of sitting down. When you have this feeling your ass will drive you down. Keep natural spine whenever you drive up. OHP - Currently looks fine to me. Mark Riptoe even asked his trainee to shrug up their traps. Don't hyper extend your back when the weight gets heavier. I know I did that. BP - I still suck at it. I am still learning what leg drive is. But I arch my back slightly, tighten my lats and let the bar briefly touch my chest. The reason is that ur upper body is like your heels when the body force load on the heels. The bar now is your body's weight. Rows - I for some reason can't do pendelay row like you did. I only can go as low as I can while I row. Just remember to pull back not with ur hands but your back. Feel the back and not your hands. Else you will work on bicep only. To help you feel I would do some light face pull targetting the back before I row to get more mind muscle connection. DL - The pulling up seems alright but I think you still feel weird during negative. When you go down it is not necessary to go down slow. However it shall not be free fall. If you find your knees is in the way, work on your hamstring flexibility. During negative you unconciously moved the knees forward. If your knees are at the position when you started which do not block your bar path when you pull up, it should not block you on negative. Always reset your brace and grip every rep. And oh. To me the plate stack looks too high. The next time when you go to 20kg plates a side you will have to adjust the feel again. Set up one bar with 20kg plates. Then another one with your weight. Align the 2 bars centre to center so that bothe bars only are at approximately the same height. |
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Feb 3 2017, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 2 2017, 06:03 PM) No problem, after I looked at your video again, if you noticed, your knees are also too far front (but some people just can't help it due to their bone structure) - if you do "ass back first" it won't be so front.Learn to balance your weight on your back heel. Similarly drive up with the weights on the back of your foot. |
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Feb 4 2017, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Feb 3 2017, 08:28 AM) I am super glad that you started. Keep it up. Keep that hunger and learn the form. I am still learning and the hunger you have now will bring you a long way in every aspect. I know it did that for me. Thank you for all the advice, will take note in my next session. Some of my personal q's that worked for me which might not be for you. Squat - Put the bar latch a hole lower. So that you do not need to tip toe when you unrack. Go under the bar, tighten your shoulder blade, stabalise the bar before unracking. Don't rush into unrack as unstable bar on your back can be dangerous and energy wasting trying to stabalise it off your back. Always reset ie exhale out at the top and inhale brace core at the top before going down again. I wouldn't worry too much about foot positioning. I just squat as if I am squatting without anybar. Squat should feel natural. Start with the feeling of sitting down. When you have this feeling your ass will drive you down. Keep natural spine whenever you drive up. OHP - Currently looks fine to me. Mark Riptoe even asked his trainee to shrug up their traps. Don't hyper extend your back when the weight gets heavier. I know I did that. BP - I still suck at it. I am still learning what leg drive is. But I arch my back slightly, tighten my lats and let the bar briefly touch my chest. The reason is that ur upper body is like your heels when the body force load on the heels. The bar now is your body's weight. Rows - I for some reason can't do pendelay row like you did. I only can go as low as I can while I row. Just remember to pull back not with ur hands but your back. Feel the back and not your hands. Else you will work on bicep only. To help you feel I would do some light face pull targetting the back before I row to get more mind muscle connection. DL - The pulling up seems alright but I think you still feel weird during negative. When you go down it is not necessary to go down slow. However it shall not be free fall. If you find your knees is in the way, work on your hamstring flexibility. During negative you unconciously moved the knees forward. If your knees are at the position when you started which do not block your bar path when you pull up, it should not block you on negative. Always reset your brace and grip every rep. And oh. To me the plate stack looks too high. The next time when you go to 20kg plates a side you will have to adjust the feel again. Set up one bar with 20kg plates. Then another one with your weight. Align the 2 bars centre to center so that bothe bars only are at approximately the same height. QUOTE(zipitup @ Feb 3 2017, 10:25 AM) No problem, after I looked at your video again, if you noticed, your knees are also too far front (but some people just can't help it due to their bone structure) - if you do "ass back first" it won't be so front. I find it difficult to keep my knee behind my feet.Learn to balance your weight on your back heel. Similarly drive up with the weights on the back of your foot. I did tried to focus on that and try not to get it over my feet but I still overdid it I will practice bodyweight weight squat during my free time to make sure I get it right the next time. |
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Feb 4 2017, 01:08 AM
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Workout B Warm-up sets Squat 1x5x20kg Overhead Press 1x5x20kg Deadlift 1x5x40kg Workout sets Squat 5x5x25kg Overhead Press 5x5x25kg Deadlift 1x5x45kg Squat 25KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Overhead Press 25KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Deadlift 45KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Started all workout with 1 set of warm-up using the recommended starting weight. Overall it feels better as I started to feel the added weight and challenge in weight lifting. Looking forward to my 1.25kg plates next workout! This post has been edited by RyoKenzaki: Feb 11 2017, 10:33 PM |
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Feb 4 2017, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 4 2017, 01:08 AM) 3 February 2017 Squats - better. Your legs are quite long, so you may need some time to get used to sit back. I'm quite tall as well, so took me a while too once my legs are strengthened. But yea, practise it at home against a wall for example, or a chair.Workout B Squat 25KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « *I tried to "sit back" but I'm not sure if I am doing it right? Also paid more attention to embracing my cores in every rep* Overhead Press 25KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « *Definitely feeling the weight after the increment, I tried to make sure I have the correct bar path, I think I did well, what's your thought?* Deadlift 45KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « *Upon checking the video I realized my shoulder are behind the barbell bar, which is the wrong starting position according to various guide. Any idea what went wrong? Back are still rounded during the negative although its not as bad as previous session, will continue to try to correct that next time* Started all workout with 1 set of warm-up using the recommended starting weight. Overall it feels better as I started to feel the added weight and challenge in weight lifting. Looking forward to my 1.25kg plates next workout! OHP - looking good. Deadlift - I think the steps should be lift up with your body first, using your hips to drive the weight to your foot heel, (ass back again so that your knees are not in the way of the bar going up), and then only your legs straighten. Getting better |
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Feb 4 2017, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(zipitup @ Feb 4 2017, 01:21 AM) Squats - better. Your legs are quite long, so you may need some time to get used to sit back. I'm quite tall as well, so took me a while too once my legs are strengthened. But yea, practise it at home against a wall for example, or a chair. Thank you for the ass advise on my deadlift, definitely will try it next session! OHP - looking good. Deadlift - I think the steps should be lift up with your body first, using your hips to drive the weight to your foot heel, (ass back again so that your knees are not in the way of the bar going up), and then only your legs straighten. Getting better |
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Feb 5 2017, 09:06 PM
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Some progress
![]() ![]() *Pictures of the before are taken at a lower angle, in reality the differences really isn't as noticable as it seems in pictures* |
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Feb 5 2017, 09:55 PM
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Haha nice.
Eat more :-) fibre, protein, complex carbs. |
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Feb 6 2017, 07:45 AM
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Squat - stick yr butt out first like this shape '>' before descent.
Deadlifts- i still think yr using yr hands to lift the weights. Try going heavier as light weight does not really show yr true form. U shud be able to do at least 60kg judging by ur video |
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Feb 6 2017, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(bafukie @ Feb 6 2017, 07:45 AM) Squat - stick yr butt out first like this shape '>' before descent. Indeed I didn't do it well for my previous deadlift, will take note on my next deadlift session Deadlifts- i still think yr using yr hands to lift the weights. Try going heavier as light weight does not really show yr true form. U shud be able to do at least 60kg judging by ur video I don't think I should jump straight to my bodyweight deadlift as my program focus on linear progression, I think I should follow the recommendation weight increment or I will stall too early in my program |
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So today I finally got my 1.25kg plates. Decided to bump my Squat to 35kg from my previous 25kg to match my bench press and row exercises in my program spreadsheet. It does started to feel challenging but overall still able to complete it without problem. Workout A Warm-up sets: Squat 2x5x20kg Workout sets: Squat 5x5x35kg Bench Press 5x5x27.5kg Bent over Row 5x5x37.5kg Squat 35KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bench Press 27.5KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bent over row 37.5KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by RyoKenzaki: Feb 11 2017, 10:36 PM |
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Workout B Warm-up sets: Squat 2x5x20KG Workout sets: Squat 5x5x40KG Overhead Press 5x5x27.5KG Deadlift 1x5x50KG Squat 40KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Overhead Press 27.5KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Deadlift 50KG » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by RyoKenzaki: Feb 16 2017, 10:31 AM |
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