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TSsiaoand1
post Jan 25 2017, 06:43 PM, updated 9y ago

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hi all,

need to know what type of monitor supports 144hz with my cpu specs?

i7 - 4790
GTX970
16GB RAM

im currently usin dell23U (something) IPS
but i want to get a monitor which supports 144hz to fully utilize my gaming performance
basically, i dont understand whats the difference between TN panel and non TN panel.
read about it in google but still dont get it....
the MS response time also....dont really get it
does that mean getting a 4k HD monitor supports 144hz ?

the main reason: pure gaming monitor, i got the dell for tasking other things

my budget: less than rm2k
size: 23-27inch if possible

any recommendation?

Update:

So it comes down to these two

asus VG248QE = RM1200
BenQ XL2430T = RM1650



This post has been edited by siaoand1: Feb 4 2017, 08:05 PM
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post Jan 25 2017, 06:45 PM

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can your gpu even get close to 144fps in 4k?
TSsiaoand1
post Jan 25 2017, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ludwig. @ Jan 25 2017, 06:45 PM)
can your gpu even get close to 144fps in 4k?
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dont know, havent tried before on a 4k monitor
but i capped my games on 120fps (like cs:go), but i have screen tearing
certain games only supports up to 60hz
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post Jan 25 2017, 06:50 PM

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TN is the cheapest panel, it has narrow viewing angle compared to IPS. Move your head around while eye stare at the screen then see at which degrees you cannot see the image displayed on the screen. IPS goes about almost 175 degress viewing angle I think this is the biggest difference btween TN and IPS.
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post Jan 25 2017, 06:50 PM

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What game you usually play?.

Basically TN is old tech but with the perks of having faster refresh rates (Hz). But the color and viewing angle is bad compare to IPS panel.

I would suggest Viewsonic XG2401 which around RM1299, but that monitor use Freesync. Since you have Nvidia GPU its better to get monitor with G-Sync.
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post Jan 25 2017, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jan 25 2017, 06:50 PM)
What game you usually play?.

Basically TN is old tech but with the perks of having faster refresh rates (Hz). But the color and viewing angle is bad compare to IPS panel.

I would suggest Viewsonic XG2401 which around RM1299, but that monitor use Freesync. Since you have Nvidia GPU its better to get monitor with G-Sync.
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CS:GO, Dota2, dishonored2, borderlands2, dark souls 3 (even got screen tearing at 60hz), left4dead etc...mostly steam games
hmmm what is freesync and g-sync? sweat.gif
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post Jan 25 2017, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(siaoand1 @ Jan 25 2017, 06:54 PM)
CS:GO, Dota2, dishonored2, borderlands2, dark souls 3 (even got screen tearing at 60hz), left4dead etc...mostly steam games
hmmm what is freesync and g-sync? sweat.gif
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What Gsync and Freesync do is simply adjust the refresh rate of your monitor to match the number of frames per second your computer is churning out. The only purpose of this is to eliminate screen tearing without negatively impacting performance.
also helps when games have large fluctuations in frame rates, makes them a lot less noticeable.

with your gpu and the games u play i dont thnk there would be any problem pulling 144hz.

if you want cheap 144hz how about AOC G2460PF. if you want a really good G-Sync monitor Acer Predator XB241H is always get good review for budget G-Sync monitor.
you can go research professional review and owner review of both said product so you get better judgement.

i think both of Monitor is less than RM2k

Acer is $399.99(RM1.7k++) on amazon
AOC is $209.99(RM900++) on amazon

not sure malaysia pricing, can check lowyat garage sales section.
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post Jan 25 2017, 07:39 PM

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also i mean wouldnt have problem getting 144hz on 1080p btw, not 4k.
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post Jan 26 2017, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jan 25 2017, 07:38 PM)
What Gsync and Freesync do is simply adjust the refresh rate of your monitor to match the number of frames per second your computer is churning out. The only purpose of this is to eliminate screen tearing without negatively impacting performance.
also helps when games have large fluctuations in frame rates, makes them a lot less noticeable.

with your gpu and the games u play i dont thnk there would be any problem pulling 144hz.

if you want cheap 144hz how about AOC G2460PF. if you want a really good G-Sync monitor Acer Predator XB241H is always get good review for budget G-Sync monitor.
you can go research professional review and owner review of both said product so you get better judgement.

i think both of Monitor is less than RM2k

Acer is $399.99(RM1.7k++) on amazon
AOC is $209.99(RM900++) on amazon

not sure malaysia pricing, can check lowyat garage sales section.
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so between g-sync and freesync which one be prolonged (as in lifespan)?
or it depends on my CPU system?
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post Jan 26 2017, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(siaoand1 @ Jan 26 2017, 02:15 PM)
so between g-sync and freesync which one be prolonged (as in lifespan)?
or it depends on my CPU system?
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none, both of that features got nothing to do with lifespan.
also Freesync for you its out of question since you using Nvidia.

Freesync = AMD Card only
G-Sync = Nvidia Card only
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post Jan 26 2017, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jan 26 2017, 03:43 PM)
none, both of that features got nothing to do with lifespan.
also Freesync for you its out of question since you using Nvidia.

Freesync = AMD Card only
G-Sync = Nvidia Card only
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oh i see
so no doubt i only can get g-sync that means
in terms of usage and lifetime of a gaming monitor, how long can it last before dead pixel or anything goes wrong with it?
btw what is the difference between 1MS and 5MS?
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post Jan 26 2017, 04:03 PM

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I'm using Benq XL2720Z and having screen tearing when I set it at 60hz. Once I set to 144hz, no more tearing. Benq XL2720Z has no G-Sync but newer model XL2730Z has it but I don't think you need G-Sync. I'm using GTX 970 as well.

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Go for TN if you're into Competitive Player for fast respond rate.

Go for IPS if you plan to use it for Photoshop. IPS has better colours and viewing angle.

But 144hz is a must!

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post Jan 26 2017, 04:42 PM

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I'm using BenQ XL2430T, 144hz reduces screen tearing dramatically.
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post Jan 26 2017, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(youngy @ Jan 26 2017, 04:03 PM)
I'm using Benq XL2720Z and having screen tearing when I set it at 60hz. Once I set to 144hz, no more tearing. Benq XL2720Z has no G-Sync but newer model XL2730Z has it but I don't think you need G-Sync. I'm using GTX 970 as well.

*Edit*
Go for TN if you're into Competitive Player for fast respond rate.

Go for IPS if you plan to use it for Photoshop. IPS has better colours and viewing angle.

But 144hz is a must!
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i have an IPS monitor, using it currently dell23U something
just need one monitor for pure gaming only which why i started this thread
my friend said not to get benq monitors cuz they have ghosting...
i dont understand what ghosting is, he told me is like a ghost in games..... bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 26 2017, 04:42 PM)
I'm using BenQ XL2430T, 144hz reduces screen tearing dramatically.
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i have an IPS monitor, using it currently dell23U something
just need one monitor for pure gaming only which why i started this thread
my friend said not to get benq monitors cuz they have ghosting...
i dont understand what ghosting is, he told me is like a ghost in games..... bangwall.gif
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LOL ask your friend - why BenQ monitor is one of the most commonly used in competitive gaming scene then? See how he answer you.

I'm using Dell U2414H which is an IPS monitor, I'm fine with gaming on that too.

Anyway check out the BenQ models here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2913423
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post Jan 26 2017, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(siaoand1 @ Jan 26 2017, 03:46 PM)
oh i see
so no doubt i only can get g-sync that means
in terms of usage and lifetime of a gaming monitor, how long can it last before dead pixel or anything goes wrong with it?
btw what is the difference between 1MS and 5MS?
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thats something no one can give straight answer, theres people reported dead pixel on some reputable brand like Asus and Dell within 1 years and some works longer than 4-5 years.
its kinda like luck, but overall they can last you more than 3-4 years.

its usually means response time, how fast the monitor can change its pixel's colors from BtW (black to white) or GtG (gray to gray). i personally didnt find much of a difference between both.
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Hmmm... try searching it on the net about ghosting. I don't know how to explain. LOL

Didn't see any ghosting. Go for IPS then. Can't see if it's 1ms or 5ms with naked eyes.
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Ghosting is something so old, it's a matter of response time from grey to grey.

Even my 25ms monitor doesn't show ghosting. I'm surprised people claim they can see ghosting on 4ms monitors. tongue.gif
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post Jan 26 2017, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 26 2017, 05:22 PM)
Ghosting is something so old, it's a matter of response time from grey to grey.

Even my 25ms monitor doesn't show ghosting. I'm surprised people claim they can see ghosting on 4ms monitors. tongue.gif
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http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/wp-conte...08/ghosting.jpg
is this ghosting?
if it is, then i don't see either with my current monitor
but my games sometimes got latency due to fps drops
like dota2, i experience suddenly fps drops when i either use a skill or move my camera angle to view the map

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