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post Jan 16 2018, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 16 2018, 01:53 PM)
Fsm still have some amount there. Should i withdraw all n dump into asnb. Reason being stock market already due for a correction according to many
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My 2 cents ....

Depends on your FSM funds performance. If returning at:

AA
0-5%, definitely get out

BB
5-12%, analyse and decide (consistency, industry sector, sale/revenue historical and projected, etc etc ).

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above 12%, stay put (even in bad times, some can still do well though not as high as during good time).

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post Jan 25 2018, 09:38 AM

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Check ASNB web site on ASNB apps scam available in Google Store.

My PC has a much better security in place than my mobile and thus I don't use my mobile for financial transactions.
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post Jan 29 2018, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(kasansetiga @ Jan 29 2018, 12:22 PM)
Thanks so much for the reply! Yeah expecting some input from other masters as well
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First, me no master. Only primary student.

2 cents from this student .....

Compare the past 5 yrs average returns of your fund and the new one you plan to get into.

If the difference is

** 0-2%, consider staying put with your current fund
** 2-4%, analyse further and then decide whether to jump ship or stay put
** >4%, abandon ship and move to the new fund!

If your existing fund is the variable fund, when you calculate the return, bear in mind it is not the dividend you get that determines the return but the overall dividend + price gain/loss.

Sorry, school bell has rang, I have to go back to the class.

Good luck!
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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Feb 6 2018, 11:24 AM)
Hello,

I'm reading into the "Pengisytiharan Amanah" process for ASNB, for non-Muslims.
There is a section about the costs for claiming by beneficiaries, starting at 1.5% for the first 25000, then 1.00% for the next 225000 etc.

My questions :
1. Why is it necessary to charge such a fee as part of the claims process, as a percentage of total claimed amount ?
2. Does the same fee structure apply for other areas in the financial sector ? (I don't think there are fees for EPF beneficiaries).

I'm agreeable to pay the registration fees but why should beneficiaries essentially be taxed when they claim ?

Link below:
http://www.asnb.com.my/v3_/asnbv2_3service...sytiharanamanah
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That is one reason why I have not signed up for this.

Instead of this service, I was told by the staff that my family can also get a letter of xx (forgot what it is called now) from the local council on my demise and the money will be transferred within 5 weeks (I think).

Don't like the high fee they charge.


Yes, automatic ASX ac creation for family members etc but that should not be the main driver for going for this service. Also with MyASNB, topping up now is a lot easier than before.

So ......

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QUOTE(veera77 @ Feb 7 2018, 04:14 PM)
without Will/Nominee...the wealth distribution for non-muslim will be divided into three (1/3 parents, 1/3 spouse, 1/3 kids)...and involves tedious documentation....i did for my father-in-law wealth 7 yrs ago, not for ASNB but for Maybank Saving account...
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For my dad, we managed to settle it even without a will rather smoothly. Maybe it is easier in sarawak. Ha.

OK with me with the 1/3 split.

So ...


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post Mar 24 2018, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Mar 24 2018, 03:01 PM)
PNB will announce ASM and ASB2 dividend next week. Any wild guess on the dividend?
My guess is ASM 6%, ASB2 6.5%.
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My bet is 7-7.1% for ASM.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 24 2018, 08:52 PM)
Ahh long time no see u πŸ™

7% is too high target leh..
My bet maximum 6.5% only πŸ˜‘
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post Mar 29 2018, 11:35 AM

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ASM 6.25% only
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post Apr 5 2018, 04:35 PM

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Sifu,

Is it possible to change guardian from my wife to me in kid's ASX ac?

Why?

Then I can access their ac online.

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Got some inside infor from a relative who will be withdrawing AS1M RMxxk tomorrow, most likely in the morning.

So some fishing trips tomorrow for some.
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QUOTE(cklimm @ May 3 2018, 09:51 AM)
it turns out to be asw on sale (15k)  tongue.gif
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I am pretty sure I heard it is AS1M. So keep your fishing bait on for AS1M.
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post May 4 2018, 10:14 AM

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no one got any rmxxk as1m fish this morning?
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QUOTE(55665566 @ May 4 2018, 10:22 AM)
you just withdraw rmxxk?
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a relative did
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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Jun 3 2018, 01:22 PM)
Would like to ask for your opinion.
If your car loan is at 2.5% and you are earning 6% in amanah saham, would you take out more for downpayment? Or just save the money in Asx? Considering that car loan is non reducing
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My 2 cents ...

OPTION 1

Imagine there are 2 of you, YouA and YouB.

YouA takes from AS for car downpayment.

YouB leaves AS as it is.

Calculate the interests and loan payments of your car loan for the 2 cases and compare statements of YouA and YouB at the end of the x years. Which one gives you a better deal?


OPTION 2

A quicker way to answer the question.

Why take out money from AS which is PAYING you 6% for something which is COSTING you 2.5%? Lugi mah.

P/S car loan at 2.5% only? That low now?

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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Jun 3 2018, 07:07 PM)
Yeah averages around 2.55 now. What about personal loan of say RM50k? It states that flat interest rate is 3.7%pa (for govt servant) but effective interest rate is ~6.8% since the interest will always be charged on initial RM50k regardless how much I have paid. But I calculated that my dividend from Asx itself is gonna be higher at the end of 5 years compared to the interest I am gonna serve throughout the 5 years. So does this mean I should compared Asx dividend vs flat interest rate and not their effective interest rate?

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Give me details for the car and personal loan

* flat rate
* reducing rate
* initial loan amounts
* no of yrs

Just realised that I should not compare flat rate with AS rate. My mistake.
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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Jun 3 2018, 09:48 PM)
We will just look at the personal loan of RM50,000 over 5 years.

The repayment would be RM986/month. (Flat interest of 3.67%, effective interest of 6.8%)

After 60 months, I would have paid RM9160 as interest on the loan. If I leave the RM50,000 in Amanah Saham and take up the loan, assuming 6% dividend, I will be earning RM3000/year and RM15000 after 5 years (assuming no compounding for simple calculation.)

So this means that taking up the loan would be more worth it (assuming I have no monthly cash flow issue) and I should compared amanah saham dividend with flat interest rate and not the effective interest rate?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 3 2018, 11:15 PM)
Effective rate already showing you are paying more than what amanah saham is paying.
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My mistake in overlooking the FLAT rate in my original reply. My apology.

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Now my answer is similar to Ramjade.

Based on the loan amount, yr and monthly repayment, your effective rate is 6.827% pa

With ASX returns (averages over the years)

AS1M ASM ASW2020
avg 6.4 6.7 7.2

(note the highest ASW return can be misleading as ASW did very well in the early years 7-10%. Using the same period as AS1M, ASW average is 6.4%. The 3 ASX are now very close brothers and sisters giving about the same %.)

So, should you use ASX money instead of getting the loan?

Same as, should you use ASX money to pay off the loan?

For me, answer is not clear cut due to the close 6.4 & 6.8 figures.

* will ASX do better later?
* will loan rate change later?
* ???

Lastly, ask around and see if you can get a lower % for the loan.

Sorry for my long answer.

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QUOTE(mephyll @ Oct 4 2018, 04:55 PM)
now FP is getting harder to grab available unit.. for non bumi, left only 2 FP products available.
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Thought we have 3 non bumi FP. Which FP have they stopped?

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 15 2018, 08:28 PM)
If I'm not mistaken..
2020 is the year the fund needed to disclosed their "real" NAV...
Meaning could be float at market price πŸ™πŸ™…
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Mind sharing where did you get the news on NAV in 2020?

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 21 2018, 03:53 PM)
for u.. went searching high & low for the relevant information since we got long history sweat.gifΒ  sweat.gif
if others ask me... krik krik... won't even bother searching...

and My mistake.. it's ASB 2 till 2020.. others till year end onlyΒ  console.gifΒ  bruce.gifΒ  bye.gif
(If I'm correct in reading the info)

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Many thanks.

Yes, saw that before and I forgot about it. Good reminder for me to keep an eye on this as I will be cutting the chains once that the switch to VP is confirmed.

Cheerio.

P/S From memory, last time found out that SC gave the extension and they updated the master prospectus before the year end. Will try to get the 2019 prospectus and check there.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 21 2018, 09:49 PM)
I think the Master Prospectus only out Next year.. because it's too late to have new master prospectus now...

and if there were change to VP.. PNB needed to give time & advance notice... and give option too.. simply cannot change overnight..
oh before forget..
while u are it reading the master prospectus..
try see if there any clause saying needed to call EGM for unitholders to make major changes to the funds  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Tried to get 2019 prospectus. No luck so far.

Thought in the year when I was searching for clarification, noted that they had updated the SC's extension in the next year prospectus which was issued before the new year. Maybe now they don't do that anymore.

May call PNB to find out.

On EGM, I don't think they will decide based on shareholders' wish. They do that due to SC or big finger from PJaya. Ha.

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