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savvyaunty
post Dec 5 2017, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Trulyasia@ @ Dec 5 2017, 04:23 PM)
Oh thank u very much.
Do u put everything into this fund?
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No but I personally split my deposit into 2 type:

1. Cash savings - put in about 75% in ASx and remaining in FD (planning to move FD to ASx when they mature)
My savings are only ikan bilis so stuck with just 3% interest for FD and to think of it, if ASx/PNB collapse, the whole Malaysian economy probably also mati d. I doubt those PIDM protection will be able to return me my money from the bank

2. Savings for investment - ASx is sort of like my parking place for the money meant for investment
Parking in ASx for temporary dividend while increasing my warchest. not worth wasting on all the fees to buy stocks with small amount of capital
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post Dec 5 2017, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(veera77 @ Dec 5 2017, 06:31 PM)
cool plan savvyaunty cool2.gif

PIDM i heard hv maximum limit they will insurance...i think around 250k..not sure

buying stock...nowadays need a lot of time to do homework before buying...sometimes whole weekend gone on this ...itu pun kdg2 kantoi jugak  bangwall.gif belum lagi Bitcoin another mother of all risks  devil.gif
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yeah PIDM has maximum limit but I won't hit the limit anyway. my consideration is more on the interest rate. ikan bilis here so don't qualify for all those FD promo. been getting the standard 3% FD rates so seriously considering moving whatever FD i have to ASx

not a believer in bitcoin despite its meteoric rise. starting to study stocks and hoping to make correct choices
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post Dec 5 2017, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Trulyasia@ @ Dec 5 2017, 08:52 PM)
Do u think very dangerous if I put all in Amanah Saham?
I am not good in investing
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there's always risk in everything. even banks can go bankrupt and nobody really knows if PIDM can guarantee everyone's FD

At 6% it's my preferred choice of savings now. I don't really consider ASx as investment but look at it more as savings account with very good interest rate
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post Dec 6 2017, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Trulyasia@ @ Dec 6 2017, 11:41 AM)
I have an enquiry. Assume I buy AS1M already rm5k in jan18. Then I withdraw all 4.9k on jun18. Then I buy ASW on jun18 also. Will I lose out jun18 dividend for AS1m? And when I withdraw , interest for jan18-jun18 will be credited pro rate for me or not?
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dividend is calculated based on the lowest monthly balance. so it depends on when you buy or withdraw the money from AS1M.

eg. Buy on/before 1 Jan and sell on/after 1 July - dividend pro-rated for Jan-June
Buy after 1 Jan and sell on/before 30 June - dividend pro-rated for Feb-May

similar rule applies to ASW. buying before/on 1st of the month without any withdrawal for the month will be entitled to the pro-rate dividend for the month
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post Dec 6 2017, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Dec 6 2017, 01:57 PM)
Guys! I need some advice, I contacted the bank and they told me that I only can open account when got ppl close account. So...anyway to check whether any account is available for open?
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Don't kena con by bank. just need to wait for someone to sell and once there is unit to buy then can open account
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post Dec 6 2017, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Dec 6 2017, 03:39 PM)
So if I go to ASNB center, I should able to open account straight?!
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it will be easier cause the ASNB staff can see the available units while in banks they have to try their luck. Most of the time they are just reluctant to try
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post Dec 6 2017, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(veera77 @ Dec 6 2017, 03:39 PM)
ha ha..yeah...big shark with ASG and ASNx is waiting for prey... devil.gif
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even if manage to open ASW/ASM/AS1M, I still got attacked by those bank officers with charts and tables of the successful VP funds. Kept going on about capital gain and dividend while in FP funds only dividend
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post Dec 7 2017, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 7 2017, 07:35 AM)
Bro you don't ask that kind of question here. Besides RN200k is nothing to most people here. You haven't seen nothing yet.

How to get so much money?
1) save >50% of your money
- don't fall prey to lifestyle inflation (which means as your earnings increases,  your spending also increases). Your spending should remain the same even if you have increase in earnings.
- find ways to make or save money
buy things online and use cash back credit cards as you can save more + input in discount code to bring the price down lower than buying from regular store. The right card will give you rm600/year free money.
- avoid yearly apple/Samsung purchase + daily Starbucks.
It will help you save a lot and those money can be channelled into investment rather than useless item. This will help you to grow your money faster.
- avoid buying branded cars
car is a depreciating asset. You are taking loan to buy a car which means you are paying more for something which decreases in value the moment it leaves the showroom. Stick with small proton or perodua. Save your petrol cost + you pay lesser per month vs if you buy a Toyota or Honda.
- pay less taxes legally
This will put more money into your pocket. Small amount is also something.
- be brave to take risk by investing
You can't grow your wealth if you stick with FD only.

2) work your way up the corporate ladder.
- big boss are paid big bucks.

3) start your own business

Obviously step 1 is the one most people can do. But it requires high discipline.
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totally agree! lifestyle inflation is the biggest culprit. After counting how much I spend on Starbucks in 2015, I've stayed away since then. All those hipster cafe is also bad enough. In the long run, I'm happier seeing my net worth grow than a 10-minute enjoyment of a RM13 latte. Plus, some local kopi-o is just as awesome
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post Dec 7 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 7 2017, 03:17 PM)
BLURR question.

i started with Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 early Nov.

the 0.5% per month div . .how it is given? where to check?

if emergency withdraw in December can still get div or just take back capital?

So, that i can plan how much to put into this MYASNB.
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it depends on when you deposit in November. if it is on 1 Nov and you didnt touch the money at all then yes can still get dividend for the month of Nov (provided your account still exist - as in you didn't withdraw everything). dividend will be paid on 31 August for ASW

here's a simple excel I use: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xrml4ynnnj5xet8/A...idend.xlsx?dl=0
just amend the lowest monthly balance and dividend for the year

This post has been edited by savvyaunty: Dec 7 2017, 04:19 PM
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post Dec 7 2017, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 7 2017, 05:53 PM)
Good that you discovered this. Many people never know this until it's too late. biggrin.gif
Need to make some luxury sacrifices for savings. I wonder how many of young people that frequent cafe are actually able to save money with all those expensive food

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post Dec 7 2017, 06:18 PM

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Details on ADAM50: http://www.asnb.com.my/v3_/asnbv2_5faq.php#adam50
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post Dec 7 2017, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Trulyasia@ @ Dec 7 2017, 07:37 PM)
I have another enquiry . If I purchase AS1M on 8/12 for 5k and then I sell 4.9k on 1/3/18. I get Jan18 , Feb18 and Mar18 dividend?

Then I buy ASW on 1/3/18 , will it count from mar18 for dividend or will count from Apr18 onwards?
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AS1M only get dividend based on 5K for Jan and Feb 2018 - withdrawal on March so your lowest balance in March is only RM100

ASW - lowest balance for march is 5K if successfully buy on 01/03 and no withdrawal for that month

Always remember calculation of dividend is always based on the lowest monthly balance

Trying to shift between fund to get the most of our the dividend? hmm.gif
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post Dec 8 2017, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(Trulyasia@ @ Dec 7 2017, 07:54 PM)
If shift fund, u mean forfeit one month dividend in ASIM and get ASW dividend for like few months and compound interest faster in ASW ?
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Just wondering if that's what you are trying to do cause you seem to be planning to move from ASW to AS1M etc.
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post Dec 8 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(yahiko @ Dec 8 2017, 09:53 AM)
hey guys.. i was planning to open asw with kosong unit and try luck online.. question.. will it be under 1 login for all account or there will be each login for each account.. say if u got all 3 account then i will have 3 logins?
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no such thing as account with kosong unit. need to get min 100 units first before it will appear in MyASNB. single login but you need to have all 3 account before you can top up online
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 8 2017, 10:11 AM)
I'm getting mix info on this issues..

What I know its min 100 units to open up new account.. But one fellow forummer managed to get zero balance account few months back... Later just top up at myasnb portal only..

So I'm guessing in case on case basis.. Meaning depending on staff & branch policies 😊
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Last time i was told no unit cannot open account especially if completely never buy any ASx before.

But one CIMB officer was willing to try to open a brand new account for me before checking the unit. According to him, he can hold it in their system first if there's no unit at that time but I have to go back to find him to try for the 1st 100 units. Basically cannot try in other places cause he generated the account number on his side of the system under my IC number rclxub.gif

Luckily managed to at least get AS1M then no problem. For ASW and ASM, i just went in and try. Once got unit, the CIMB fella get me to fill up all the forms then done.
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post Dec 8 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 8 2017, 11:14 AM)
Ahh so its on the staff to help out..
So basically its case on case basis..
Just hope the fellow don't get into trouble because officially u cannot do such thing...
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yeah i think it is a grey area. basically they have to key in all the details then generate the account then buy the units. most of the time they are reluctant to do it cause they don't know when units will be available and cannot leave an account with no units. if they are helpful they just pause at step 2 and try again another day i think.
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post Dec 13 2017, 11:23 AM

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Young people really ought to consider saving in ASx. The whole YOLO trend is quite worrying

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017...bankrupt-befor/
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post Dec 13 2017, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(veera77 @ Dec 13 2017, 11:43 AM)
Sometimes i feel parent didn’t do their part in teaching their kids on personal financing.

I think all parent should buy ‘Rich Dad Poor Dad’ book and gift to their kids once they reach age 18.

Or just download e-book in pdf and send them via Whatapps tongue.gif
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My parent did talk about importance of savings but I fell into the YOLO trap for some time. I think it's a generation trend. Everyone wants a latte over kopi-o and eat in cafes over kopitiam.
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post Dec 13 2017, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Trulyasia@ @ Dec 13 2017, 08:21 PM)
I'm 29 this year with 5k saving.is it too late. Not bankrupt yet.
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Never too late to get started. 26 now and I only started saving 2 years after working.
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post Dec 13 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 13 2017, 08:37 PM)
Glad I never fall into any YOLO trap. Steady since my school days. Rich dad, poor dad and Gen-X was my mentor.
Got swayed when studying abroad. Influenced by the angmoh YOLO culture. Luckily I stepped out of it fast enough and started saving/investing.

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