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 T8 Fluorescent LED Tube Light replacement, Retrofitting LED tube to existing casing

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post Nov 19 2019, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Nov 19 2019, 10:12 AM)
haha..truth also ...not every day activity at outside house ..
its OK for my current Philip 20W tube ...
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haha ... I occasionally use LED torchlight outside the house at night = no need 20W LED T8 tube light. *sarcasm*
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post Nov 19 2019, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 19 2019, 05:40 PM)
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haha ... I occasionally use LED torchlight outside the house at night = no need 20W LED T8 tube light. *sarcasm*
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my outside got extra Land with Awning covered ...not outside without roof...haha...
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post Nov 26 2019, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Nov 19 2019, 09:10 AM)
yes ..for your case yes ...

my case is to find higher lumem which is over 2100k with less than 30W for to cover widen area outside my house ...
initially thinking your 24W 7000k will covered widen ...but its not ..caused lumem still less than my current Philip...
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 19 2019, 09:51 AM)
I not sure what age are you. But have you notice that, older people have problem seeing in dark or at night ?

They often complain that the place is too dark. While the young said it's fine?

That is the problem when you constantly expose to light too bright and glare.

Especially now 6500k is not enough for people. That is some alarming problem coming.

What happen if people chasing till 7500k or 8000k ?

3500k or yellow light is not dimly lit. Yellow light can be very bright if the lumens is high. Again don't confuse between bright and color or Lumens and kelvin.

Have you use before downlight bulb CFL which is 3500k 1600L ? If you use before, you know how bright that yellow CFL bulb. 

Do you know light color have wavelenght? Why street light or your car head light is yellow? Why all the car brand don't put a 7000k head light?
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so conclusion means LUMENS is very important for light bulb.... correct me if I am wrong...
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post Nov 26 2019, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(se800i @ Nov 26 2019, 01:48 PM)
so conclusion means LUMENS is very important for light bulb.... correct me if I am wrong...
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Yes lumens is a measure of brightness.
However the thing is that perceived brightness (comparing 1000lm vs 2000lm, whilst it is technically double the light, but our eyes do not perceive it as double brightness).

Lumens (and lux and candela etc etc) are linearly additive but perceived brightness is logarithmic. E.G. adding an additional 500lux to an object already lit by 500lux means that the object will be receiving 1000lux, but the perceived brightness will not double.

The yellowness/blueness is measured by colour temp (e.g. 6500K/3000K).
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post Jun 10 2020, 09:55 PM

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I just bought Philips eco t8, any installer can install&charge me in puchong? Tq

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post Jun 10 2020, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(tnghian @ Jun 10 2020, 09:55 PM)
I just bought Philips eco t8, any installer can install&charge me in puchong? Tq
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Replace or install new?

If replace, can easily diy.
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post Jun 11 2020, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 10 2020, 10:27 PM)
Replace or install new?

If replace, can easily diy.
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Replace, diy not easy for me...
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post Jun 12 2020, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(tnghian @ Jun 11 2020, 08:12 AM)
Replace, diy not easy for me...
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It is just plug and play with dummy starter c/w the t8 unit.
Unless you prefer to redo wiring to remove the old adapter.
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QUOTE(tnghian @ Jun 11 2020, 08:12 AM)
Replace, diy not easy for me...
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Replace should be quite straight forward, old casing is held on (usually) with two screws and there will be two wires for power coming out of it.
Off everything in DB box then only start work.
You probably need a + screwdriver and small - (test pen). New one also screw in with two screws to mount, but hole location might not match old casing
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post Jun 14 2020, 08:51 AM

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currently using Philip eco 20w tube ..wonder replace with 200w solar LED will be more brightness?
to save energy..haha...


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post Jun 14 2020, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jun 14 2020, 08:51 AM)
currently using Philip eco 20w tube ..wonder replace with 200w solar LED will be more brightness?
to save energy..haha...
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For ?
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post Jun 14 2020, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 14 2020, 12:48 PM)
For ?
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for replace current T8 tube 20w..

the 200w solar LED cost rm120 ...
wonder the battery can last for how long ...
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post Jun 15 2020, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jun 14 2020, 03:04 PM)
for replace current T8 tube 20w..

the 200w solar LED cost rm120 ...
wonder the battery can last for how long ...
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I mean the T8 tube mainly for indoor room use. Where it design is for all direction bright and short throw. (short light distance)

But the 200w LED you wonder is an outdoor spotlight narrow beam?

So for what purpose you want to apply to it?
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post Jun 15 2020, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 15 2020, 08:45 AM)
I mean the T8 tube mainly for indoor room use. Where it design is for all direction bright and short throw. (short light distance)

But the 200w LED you wonder is an outdoor spotlight narrow beam?

So for what purpose you want to apply to it?
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to save 20w current 12hours per day for every month ...

how long can it be return if the 200w LED cost rm130

thanks...
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post Jun 15 2020, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jun 15 2020, 10:09 AM)
to save 20w current 12hours per day for every month ...

how long can it be return if the 200w LED cost rm130

thanks...
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20wx12hr=240whr/day.

240whr x 365 /12=7.3kwhr/mth

I have no spec on the 200w LED. what is the battery capacity and the hr usage is can draw before recharge ?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 15 2020, 10:16 AM)
20wx12hr=240whr/day.

240whr x 365 /12=7.3kwhr/mth

I have no spec on the 200w LED. what is the battery capacity and the hr usage is can draw before recharge ?
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spec as showed in the photo ..

let say the rate 0.334 ...so 7.3kwhr/mth = how much per month?

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jun 15 2020, 06:52 PM)
spec as showed in the photo ..

let say the rate 0.334 ...so 7.3kwhr/mth = how much per month?

thanks ..
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0.334 x 7.3kwh = RM2.44



To run a 200w led light for 12hr daily, require

200w x 12hr = 2.4kwhr/day

You need 507Ah battery ( discharge to 50%)

And 624kw of solar panel.

Not worth to install.

The specification look not realistic.

1) solar charging time too long. Not able to charge full perday.
2) battery bank not enough solar panel capacity to charge it full daily. Slowly deplete and kong.
3) 45w/6v Panel?

The spec look scam to me.

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post Jun 18 2020, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 17 2020, 01:47 PM)
0.334 x 7.3kwh = RM2.44
To run a 200w led light for 12hr daily, require

200w x 12hr = 2.4kwhr/day

You need 507Ah battery ( discharge to 50%)

And 624kw of solar panel.

Not worth to install.

The specification look not realistic.

1) solar charging time too long. Not able to charge full perday.
2) battery bank not enough solar panel capacity to charge it full daily. Slowly deplete and kong.
3) 45w/6v Panel?

The spec look scam to me.
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just rm2.44 per month only for 20w LED on 12hours per day ..


thats why selling so cheap price...haha...

if 624kw solar panel cost how much ? few k?
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post Jun 18 2020, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jun 18 2020, 10:25 AM)
just rm2.44 per month only for 20w LED on 12hours per day ..
thats why selling so cheap price...haha...

if 624kw solar panel cost how much ? few k?
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Don't underestimate the small amount permonth.

When a little bit here and there adds up, the bill is shocking.

Many people don't understand why their bill so high. When think didn't use much the appliance.

Depend the quality panel.

Generally 4kw panel cost RM11k.

* Sorry my mistake. It should be 624watt panel. Not 624kw. Under 1kw panel. Get 3pcs 250watt panel is sufficient.

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post Jun 18 2020, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 18 2020, 10:31 AM)
Don't underestimate the small amount permonth.

When a little bit here and there adds up, the bill is shocking.

Many people don't understand why their bill so high. When think didn't use much the appliance.

Depend the quality panel.

Generally 4kw panel cost RM11k.

* Sorry my mistake. It should be 624watt panel. Not 624kw. Under 1kw panel. Get 3pcs 250watt panel is sufficient.
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45W/6V solar panel can last for how long use for 200w LED light ?


lazada selling 250w solar panel only cost rm4Xx at least ..if 3pcs ...total rm1k plus plus ...

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