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zltan
post Apr 16 2009, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 16 2009, 05:36 PM)
This is interesting. Do you know whether universities from UK/OZ has such high drop out rate? Or is it the norm for all medical school?
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I'm now in 2nd year and I knew at least 2 from 1st who dropped out to do something else (1 which was awarded a scholarship to US).
The first year has usually the highest drop out rate because of reasons such as other uni offers and not enjoying med.
It is also estimated that about 1-2 will drop out to the next year because they failed their exams and supps.
Another 1-2 will drop to the next year because they 'want a break'
A further 1-2 will drop out completely because they can't handle med/can't pass exams.

So, you usually get about 2-3 drop outs each year. (with some people joining the next year)

It seems also that a lot of people drop out during the pre-clinical neuroscience semester.

As cyh3772 said, about 10 for the pre-clinicals.



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post Apr 17 2009, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(MBBS siang @ Apr 17 2009, 05:24 PM)
I know I know! But they not allowed me to change! Never mind la! At least, I know next time cant do anything without careful observation! tongue.gif

I have order the Gray's anatomy for students and netter's atlas of anatomy ady! Physio and biochem later! I will read the anat first then just buy physio and biochem around the mid of may! rclxms.gif
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For physiology, Rhode's and Phlanzer is great to start off with. If you want something more advanced you can go for Guyton.
West's respiratory physiology gives a great understanding of the resp system.

Biochem: Stryer/Lehninger is good


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post May 11 2009, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(kaiying @ May 11 2009, 02:35 PM)
most important factor is, my results are not good..
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There, you have said it yourself.

This should have deterred you from doing med.

We don't care how passionate you are, how much you want to be a doctor or how much you want to sacrifice.. (insert some nonsense crap here)

Bad results=No go

If you can't do it in high school, you can't do it in uni. Its as simple as that.

No bullshit about how you will study hard, work hard, ask lecturers, read a lot etc. because it won't happen. I repeat, IT WON'T HAPPEN.

I'm not trying to be rude or mean. I'm just telling you the facts. Medicine is a complicated. You don't stop studying in uni, you study throughout your life.
Take the swine flu for example. Never before has the world seen a mutation of both swine and human flu.

Another example...asthma. What causes asthma?

As a lay person, you might think its just a simple disease. But in truth, WE DO NOT KNOW. We do not know what mechanisms take place. There are so many hypothesis (eg. TH2), but no one can guarantee you a 100% that asthma is caused by that. There are so many factors involved, research is going on. You might be taught something one day....and that turns out to be wrong the next day.

Another one which you might be more familiar with... Panadol. How does it cause an analgesic effect? No one is sure. There are many hypothesis, but no one definitely knows. Google it up if you don't believe me. (Look at renown websites or pharmacology books, not websites like wikipedia)

Are you willing to commit for your entire life? If you can't handle something like SPM etc, you can't handle this.
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post May 22 2009, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(MBBS siang @ May 22 2009, 10:30 AM)
Even though Im not medical student yet. But can I guess this is the complication of diabetes. As my limited knowledge,serious diabetes patient if do not control their level of blood glucose and cleanliness.Some part of body tend to be rotten. My ah ma macam ini la! I don't know.Please diagnose it every doctor koko!
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I wouldn't jump straight to a diagnosis first.

I want to know the history of the patient.
(cardinal features? other problems? recent infections? recent bites? recent injuries? past medical history? family history? etc)

That looks like some sort of necrosis, towards the posteriomedial part of his leg.

I can see some fibrosis, so it has to be there for some time. It looks infected and seems to be spreading anteriorly.

But I don't think it is a complication of diabetes, seeing as he doesn't look overweight and also its not the distal ends doesn't look affected.






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post May 26 2009, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ May 25 2009, 11:48 PM)
...by the way, where is Limeuu?

I was expecting him to give a spot diagnosis or at least some comments on the medical condition seen in the pictures I presented.
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He stopped posting ever since someone claimed he spent too much time on this topic. Suffice to say, he won't be posting very often here now.
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post Jun 9 2009, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(cygoh9 @ Jun 9 2009, 04:48 PM)
tons of reasons, one of it : there's no air asia in nz.
second : =) i'm greedy

and true, beggars cant choose, i'll be considered lucky if i got in. And the reason why i want to get in as soon as possible is to avoid competition from the increasing grad in new schools....
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The priority list GENERALLY is:

1. Australian citizens/PR from the same state
2. Australian citizens/PR from interstate/NZ
3. International students from the same state
4. International students from interstate/NZ
5. Australian citizens/PR from overseas
6. International from overseas

Some states seperate interstate unis and NZ. All states have different priorities and selection criteria.

They are already tightening their internship allocation.

Eg.
International Students from overseas unis are NOT eligible for internship in Victoria, that includes NZ unis.
International Students from interstate unis are NOT eligible for internship in SA if they graduate after 2009.

This post has been edited by zltan: Jun 9 2009, 06:24 PM
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post Jun 11 2009, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jun 11 2009, 05:29 PM)
it is recognised by amc........but graduates' right to work in oz will depend on immigration.....just as someone who graduated from monash clayton and have returned to work in msia cannot just walk back to oz and work......would be interesting to see what happens when the 1st batch graduates end of the year.........

p/s there is a category of work visa, which allows students to work as part of the completion of their course of study, where that work is a necessary part of the course, eg the 1 year work experience required between the part 1 and part 2 of architecture........if monash msia can convince the oz immigration that housemanship is a necessary part of their training, maybe........ hmm.gif
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But they will need to get an internship place. If you aren't an Australian/Aussie PR and you graduated from an overseas uni, your chances of getting an internship spot is virtually 0.




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post Jun 13 2009, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(cygoh9 @ Jun 13 2009, 11:11 AM)
As i have always asked, how about houseman in NZ? Does that give me a better advantage in applying jobs in oz.

Btw i checked SA medical registration council (or something liddat), they ranked interstate and NZ international med grads at the same level.
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Each state has their own priority ranking. Some deem NZ as another 'state', whereas some rank NZ lower in their priority list.

But whichever way the priority goes, remember that hospitals also rank their interns using a combination of marks, referees and of course, university.

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post Jun 14 2009, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jun 14 2009, 07:58 PM)
Perhaps.. but its somebody elses grazing field and the owner prefer his "cattle" over "imported cattle" to graze there...

the more you guys wanted to settle and practice there (UK, AUS, US, SG, etc), the harder they will make it for you guys to do so (PLAB, USMLE, Immigration restrictions, etc)~

so abandon all hope and serve the Malaysian community~
Alright, time for some spot diagnosis:

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Identify the organ from which this tissue was obtained and the pathological condition affecting it.
Should be easy enough..~
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Looks like alcoholic hepatitis, but its just a guess. I would hate to be a pathologist looking under microscopes the whole day. cool2.gif
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post Aug 23 2009, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(MBBS siang @ Aug 23 2009, 05:05 PM)
erm....I dont have any clinical text book yet. This is just an assignment for general anatomy which is skin.Our lecturer link it to clinical science and he just need an rough idea about this. Yesterday,I google it up and found that the nail appearances will reflex the homeotasis of the body since the nail apearence will easily changed due to abnormality of body homeotasis. I am not sure if this idea correct or not? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cygoh9 @ Aug 23 2009, 06:11 PM)
U have 2 ways to solve things out.
1. just do nothing, and eventually answer will come to u.
2. study every system (cardio, respi, GI, renal, neuro, hemato, endocrine, etc etc) and then u'll know the answer.
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Go read up basic:

1. Abdo exam
2. Respiratory exam
3. Cardio Exam

To be honest,ost of it wouldn't make much sense in 1st semester.

But, that should be sufficient to telly you about clubbing, leukonychia, nicotine stains etc etc etc.



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