you do know bond is not recognised by mmc.......yet anyway....

actually, think about it.......unless one has actually attended another med school, and thus have a basis for comparison, how does one who have just been exposed to one particular med school make a judgement as to the quality of the programme and lecturers?.....

physical facilities of course can compare lah....i am very impressed with aimst and monash....but unfortunately, that does not necessarily translate into quality education......

for imu, with the numbers they are taking in, the most important factor is money.....if you have reasonable results, (only need ter 91, BBB kinna result) and shown to be able to talk in the interview, and don't say stupid things, they will accept you........in fact, some claim that the most important question and answer in the interview is: 'can you afford it?......yes'

universities never send you rejection letters........if you have no news, it means no offer......

this is a problem with the msian postal deficiency......some mail never arrive, so it pays to check, call them....however, imu uses poslaju, so it should be more reliable.....just not very laju........

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Added on April 23, 2008, 9:46 pmwell, they have to comply with the standards set by the partner universities, (including yours)......so they may let you in easy (it's extra fees income after all), but just as easily kick you out if you don't met the standards......i think the me1/07 batch is down to some 160+ from 220........

i don't agree with this approach, but it is i guess a good business model.......and it certainly satisfy those who feels 'heart' is more important than brains, and one doesn't have to be a genius to become a doctor.......gives then a chance to have a go at it.......the good thing is, at least it cost the taxpayer nothing, it's only dad's money when they find out it's the brains that is more important......

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Added on April 23, 2008, 9:48 pmno jokes........i thought you would either be in bond or jcu, the 2 undergrad schools........just wonder how they fit what others do in 6 years in 4 2/3 years.........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Apr 23 2008, 09:48 PM

double degree.....get into eg science/medicine from year 12, and upon meeting the minimum required in the first 2 years, will then proceed to the 4 years med programme.......uq has the same........they found out that they are loosing out on quality candidates to other undergraduate programmes....as the graduate applicants tend not to be of high calibre........

15-20 years from entering university, depending on where......

good......

no......only if you intend to work in us, or intend to predominantly treat us patients.....each country/region has their own postgraduate system........which may not recognise another country/region's.........

that is pretty much unique to bond.......all the other programmes are 6 years, except for monash....

age at graduation is not really important, because one needs another 4-10 years before one assumes independent practice........be it gp or neurosurgery......unlike most other professions, where one can begin full independent work at graduation.........

sorry, neither......

you must realise what you pay in ipta is SEVERELY subsidised by our tax money.......the real cost i think is stated in the fees, about 20-30k a year, but you only need to pay a small fraction of that.........

whereas in ipts, they get ZERO funding from public purse (tax money), and hence needs to charge full fees........and maybe a profit as well.......

that is why many people wants to get into matrik, and many people are afraid to go to stpm........one gets you into ipta easily, the other is so severely marked up, hardly anyone do well enough to 'fight' against the matrik people for a med school place.........

like i say many times before, getting into ipta medicine is like getting a rm1/4mil scholarship........

and that is why many people feels very angry.......i pay a lot of taxes, yet will have almost no chance to get any of these services back, on account of the nep policies........

its all facts in the public domain........what's so sarcastic about stating the facts?......

i really don't understand people here, common on, face the facts in the real world......pretending they are not there is not going to make them go away.......and they will eventually bite you.....one way or another......

they don't select on a day to day basis lah.....

if you have not been offered, you are likely on their hold list, awaiting people to reject offers.....the bad news is, for the 2nd intake, there fewer rejections as there are few intake alternatives at that time, and is a tougher group to compete with, ie those from a levels and stpm.....generally the easiest batch is the 1st intake......and lots will choose monash msia.......allowing many with rather low results to still slip in 2nd or even 3rd list....and of course that's the batch with the highest attrition rate at the end of the year......what's you results anyway?

This post has been edited by limeuu: Apr 29 2008, 06:59 PM

you should be in the 1st list.......just wait for it.......btw, did you hand in you final a level results?.....if you haven't, you should quickly........

it is interesting how some got rejected by imu, but got into monash.......and vice versa..........and how some got both and some of these lucky ones chooses imu, and the others monash......to the extend of forfeiting their semester fees.........

oh, i thought you are in the nov/dec exam........

in that case, you will receive a conditional offer, stating the minimum requirements, which should be something like ABB or something like that........you will need to pay up on accepting, but in the event you fail to make the grades, they will refund you....it's early days still, you should get offers maybe June........

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Added on April 30, 2008, 3:55 pmactually, to me, if you are really interested in medicine, and have the ability to do it well, just do ALL the science subjects......you should be able to do them all well..........if you can't........well, maybe you should not consider medicine then......

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actually all these concerns about doing biology, better in maths, etc puzzles me......if I were a selector for medical school entry, there are so many good straight A students with all the science subjects, it is not difficult to choose really.....anyone with reservations about doing (and doing well in) biology would not even be on my radar screen at all........

that is the inherent defect of the msian dichotomous education system.....for profit, full fees education inevitably attracts the rich rather than able students......and as there are not that many rich students who also happens to be excellent students, the imu is hard put to find enough rich students to fill the 230 places they have every 6 months......so the cut off will vary depending on the calibre of the students applying......if there are not many good applicants, they will lower the cutoff to scrape the bottom of the barrel to fill the places.......

that may be fine for most courses, but is a potential recipe for disaster for the training of future doctors.......except that it pales in comparison to the hordes getting into medical schools in india, indonesia, russia etc with worse results.........

all the ipts face the same problem......choosing based on wealth rather than suitability.....and monash is little better.......even after rejecting them, they keep calling, showing how desperate they are.........and yes.......monash msia is a LOCAL programme, whose degree just happens to be recognised by amc.......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Apr 30 2008, 05:54 PM

that is the only saving grace for imu, and the main reason they had to maintain a high standard, and fail people liberally......

it's a good business model, let you in, collect your fees, let you try, and then flunk you out......

it's 3 mths, not a semester, as is required by the amc for recognition of the degree, the students need to be familiarised with the oz context.

bumi or otherwise?.........there is a difference.....stpm, i presume non-bumi......zero chance with the big 3 (um/ukm/usm)........try the 2 tier ones.......it is still possible on second list........

that is why every graduate from there is tainted, and will be dealt with suspicion by patients.......

and why I never recommend anyone going there.....the selection criteria is too lax, and the filtering process too lax.......hardly hear of anyone failing in spite of very poor quality students taken in.........