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post Feb 20 2007, 11:06 AM, updated 19y ago

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When I first read about the iPhone, I am so amazed about it. Hopefully it will be cheaper than RM2k and supports most providers. Lastly, I've got the feeling that they will release iPhone v2 by next year which will be good for us too.
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below 2k ah? i dun thnk so la.. normal pda phone some can go 2k+ already.. now this is iPhone.. so i thnk it will be around 2k till 3k lo... now saving money already.. wahahahaha.

i really hope they implement 3G in this phone..better lo..
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by the time the iphone hit our market...US already announce the 3g iphone..and we just keep waiting the 3g iphone until......2020???heheheeh smile.gif just my 2 cents

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yeah i read in HWM, the phone will be here next year. It also stated that in 2009 the 2nd generation of iPhone will be out with bigger capacities and 3G support.

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Dunno yet.. have to look first, at that time there's a lot of better choice with 3G and 3.5G options...
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rozei81,
If iPhone's introduced in this market at below RM2k, Steve Jobs will be 'hantam-ed' by his friendly competitors biggrin.gif

Bearing in mind, the prices of iPod, the phone would need to be priced slightly higher or there'll be a reduced market for iPods nod.gif
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The iPhone looks impressive so far but the more I look at it, the more I feel that it's introduced with the US as its main target market. For example the two handed typing/SMS which is popular among Blackberry/Treo users but hardly seen in the Europe/Asian markets.

Let's see how it goes though. I'll be in the US during the launch so I hope to get some hands on time with it before deciding whether or not it's worth the price. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Feb 20 2007, 06:30 PM)
The iPhone looks impressive so far but the more I look at it, the more I feel that it's introduced with the US as its main target market. For example the two handed typing/SMS which is popular among Blackberry/Treo users but hardly seen in the Europe/Asian markets.

Let's see how it goes though. I'll be in the US during the launch so I hope to get some hands on time with it before deciding whether or not it's worth the price. biggrin.gif
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I wont go for it, its operating system is a closed one meaning no 3rd party application for it, unless from apple itself, it doesnt have GPS too.

I rather go for Eten Glofish M700
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post Feb 20 2007, 08:53 PM

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i dont think ill buy it. i got 4 iPods oredi tongue.gif

its price will go until 2-3k? or less?

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QUOTE(merajey @ Feb 20 2007, 01:08 PM)
by the time the iphone hit our market...US already announce the 3g iphone..and we just keep waiting the 3g iphone until......2020???heheheeh smile.gif just my 2 cents
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post Feb 20 2007, 09:36 PM

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so buy from overseas and be the first to use iPhone [:
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post Feb 21 2007, 12:07 AM

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I don't think it's too wise to purchase the iPhone just to be able to declare being the first around to be using the iPhone. A phone should be purchased based on practicality and functionality, no?

Er... then again, I'm thrifty... smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2007, 12:47 AM

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i dont think a phone is purchased for practical or functional use. everybody owns a 3g phone but not utilizing it. just for practical usage, u dont need a 3mp cam phone. just like buying a macbook. obviously u want a better spec than the regular right :]

but iPhone is totally a different case just like the iPod's. blame fashion [:
people spend 100thousands just be the first to own a sports car in malaysia because they can. the best part is they dont even have to declare, eventually everybody will know. since it takes a year or more for iPhone reaching malaysia and to wait for the price to drop, since i can get it overseas just because i can, so why not?

so dont tell me im unwise just because i buy an iPhone from overseas ;/
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post Feb 21 2007, 09:25 AM

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ezinger,
Like I said, I'm just thrifty when it comes to such gadgets, hence I look at it from a different perspective. To begin with, not everyone owns a 3G enabled phone - for one, I no longer do sad.gif

Also, unlike many people, I find a phone to be a phone and as convenient as it is to have a camera attached to it, if I'm going to take a photo, I rather be carrying a proper digital camera *shrugs* - perhaps I'm just too stereotyped? *shrugs*

If you're getting the iPhone for fashion sake then by all means, go get the iPhone... I'm pretty sure you're gonna be envied by all your friends but do beware about compatibility issues before you bring the phone back here yah? smile.gif

I can't afford to be the first person to own a brand new sports car here, but well, even if i can, that's not gonna help me reach self actualisation level on Maslow's chart smile.gif
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i'll most definitely be gettin one... i think by the time it reaches our shores, the bugs wud hv been ironed out... and it will be a wonderful super splendid best thing ever... heheh...

KONG HEY FATT CHOY everyone!!...

p/s.. how did maslow get into this topic???... heheh... his stories r old man..
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Too much Management reading the last few days put Maslow here *grins* I would think so too by the time the phone reaches our shores, it'll be the 2nd Generation phones.. well, keep your fingers crossed the price would be compatible with the rest of the smart phones, hence leaving a smaller dent on all your pockets....

I wonder if I would have gotten a replacement for my phone by then.... sad.gif
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post Feb 21 2007, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 21 2007, 09:25 AM)
ezinger,
Like I said, I'm just thrifty when it comes to such gadgets, hence I look at it from a different perspective.  To begin with, not everyone owns a 3G enabled phone - for one, I no longer do  sad.gif

Also, unlike many people, I find a phone to be a phone and as convenient as it is to have a camera attached to it, if I'm going to take a photo, I rather be carrying a proper digital camera *shrugs* - perhaps I'm just too stereotyped? *shrugs*

If you're getting the iPhone for fashion sake then by all means, go get the iPhone... I'm pretty sure you're gonna be envied by all your friends but do beware about compatibility issues before you bring the phone back here yah? smile.gif 

I can't afford to be the first person to own a brand new sports car here, but well, even if i can, that's not gonna help me reach self actualisation level on Maslow's chart  smile.gif
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i was talking about the people who owns a 3g phone...

unlike many people, i do it all. slr, dslr, cam phone. =P so im not too bias about gadgets.

im pretty sure most newer gsm phones works pretty much the same so im not too worried.

self actualisation is self preferenced [:
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QUOTE(ezinger @ Feb 21 2007, 01:47 AM)
i dont think a phone is purchased for practical or functional use. everybody owns a 3g phone but not utilizing it. just for practical usage, u dont need a 3mp cam phone. just like buying a macbook. obviously u want a better spec than the regular right :]

but iPhone is totally a different case just like the iPod's. blame fashion [:
people spend 100thousands just be the first to own a sports car in malaysia because they can. the best part is they dont even have to declare, eventually everybody will know. since it takes a year or more for iPhone reaching malaysia and to wait for the price to drop, since i can get it overseas just because i can, so why not?

so dont tell me im unwise just because i buy an iPhone from overseas ;/
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YA. Sure can get it overseas. But? Do you forgot sth? Cingular network? You need to unlock iphone in order to be able to use in malaysia. Once unlock, i'm sure it will void warranty and you need to wait for the unlock software to release. rolleyes.gif So troublesome
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post Feb 21 2007, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 21 2007, 10:08 AM)
Too much Management reading the last few days put Maslow here *grins*  I would think so too by the time the phone reaches our shores, it'll be the 2nd Generation phones.. well, keep your fingers crossed the price would be compatible with the rest of the smart phones, hence leaving a smaller dent on all your pockets....

I wonder if I would have gotten a replacement for my phone by then....  sad.gif
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I believe there will be quite a market for underwater/grey market iPhone models, the moment they're released in the US. It'll be for those people who really want to have the latest and greatest the moment it's released. I don't expect them to be very cheap though.

Pricing wise, Apple has never been one to sell at the same price as their competitors. I'll bet that the iPhone will be quite a bit more expensive than the iPaqs/Dopods/Eten/etc.

Me, I'll probably stick to my 2.5 year old (3-year old by the time the iPhone is released) Nokia. biggrin.gif But I'll still drop by the Apple Store to play with it when it's out.

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ezinger,
How right u are.... Ask me to choose between climbing Mt KK and slogging 3 years for a degree I'll probably choose the latter blush.gif

tishaban,
*high5* I think the price of the iPhone will probably be in the RM2.5-RM3.5k range. And I think I'll stick to my old faithful until the need arises for a new phone.... [which coincidentally been almost 3 months now!!!!] sad.gif
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QUOTE(allvin @ Feb 21 2007, 11:48 AM)
YA. Sure can get it overseas. But? Do you forgot sth? Cingular network? You need to unlock iphone in order to be able to use in malaysia. Once unlock, i'm sure it will void warranty and you need to wait for the unlock software to release.  rolleyes.gif So troublesome
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whats makes u think i will an iphone contracted with cingular? and what makes u think i will get an iphone around the americas?
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QUOTE(ezinger @ Feb 21 2007, 04:11 PM)
whats makes u think i will an iphone contracted with cingular? and what makes u think i will get an iphone around the americas?
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since it takes a year or more for iPhone reaching malaysia and to wait for the price to drop, since i can get it overseas just because i can, so why not?

so dont tell me im unwise just because i buy an iPhone from overseas ;/

Even you get iphone from other countries (UK for an example), i'm sure it will contract with other network operator. That's mean you need to unlock. And even you can get underwater set, it's just like AP set in mobile world. But for iphone, it different case here. For me, i don't dare get such iphone icon_rolleyes.gif Just my 2bit here
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I've been using AP sets for awhile biggrin.gif Haven't had problems before biggrin.gif

Granted Mots/SEs/Nokias are a piece of cake to unlock nowadays, but I have full faith in those crazy phone hackers in LYP/Sg Wang to crack the iPhone soon after its release.

So, anyone want to join me on my trip to the US in June? Visit the 5th Ave Apple Store, drool at the iPhone, maybe even buy one? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Feb 21 2007, 04:23 PM)
I've been using AP sets for awhile biggrin.gif Haven't had problems before biggrin.gif

Granted Mots/SEs/Nokias are a piece of cake to unlock nowadays, but I have full faith in those crazy phone hackers in LYP/Sg Wang to crack the iPhone soon after its release.

So, anyone want to join me on my trip to the US in June? Visit the 5th Ave Apple Store, drool at the iPhone, maybe even buy one? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(allvin @ Feb 21 2007, 03:59 PM)
Here you go :[

Even you get iphone from other countries (UK for an example), i'm sure it will contract with other network operator. That's mean you need to unlock. And even you can get underwater set, it's just like AP set in mobile world. But for iphone, it different case here. For me, i don't dare get such iphone  icon_rolleyes.gif Just my 2bit here
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its fair to say you are not completely sure unless you live in those countries [:
apple has worldwide warranty so im not too worried if anything happens [:

QUOTE(tishaban @ Feb 21 2007, 04:23 PM)
I've been using AP sets for awhile biggrin.gif Haven't had problems before biggrin.gif

Granted Mots/SEs/Nokias are a piece of cake to unlock nowadays, but I have full faith in those crazy phone hackers in LYP/Sg Wang to crack the iPhone soon after its release.

So, anyone want to join me on my trip to the US in June? Visit the 5th Ave Apple Store, drool at the iPhone, maybe even buy one? biggrin.gif
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dang, do u think u could get some peripherals for me there =P

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tishaban,
Yeah, perhaps u'll like to start taking orders *grins* Just becareful when u cross customs `k? biggrin.gif
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I'm interested but I'll continue to read the various reviews and experiences available.. Since its their 1st foray, I'm a bit sceptical.. probably might wait for the 2nd gen to hit town..
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 21 2007, 05:11 PM)
tishaban,
Yeah, perhaps u'll like to start taking orders *grins*  Just becareful when u cross customs `k?  biggrin.gif
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Haha orders... it depends biggrin.gif My offer was to join me on the trip biggrin.gif
Since I'm getting a nice hotel for quite some time, all you have to do is pay for the ticket. biggrin.gif

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tishaban,
The offer's valid only for males? females? smile.gif
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Feb 21 2007, 05:53 PM)
Haha orders... it depends biggrin.gif My offer was to join me on the trip biggrin.gif
Since I'm getting a nice hotel for quite some time, all you have to do is pay for the ticket. biggrin.gif
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so we dont have to pay for the hotel?
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Feb 20 2007, 06:34 PM)
I wont go for it, its operating system is a closed one meaning no 3rd party application for it, unless from apple itself, it doesnt have GPS too.

I rather go for Eten Glofish M700
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y dont u open a "Eten Glofish M700" thread and talk there instead of here ?

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QUOTE(ezinger @ Feb 21 2007, 07:41 PM)
so we dont have to pay for the hotel?
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No, the company's paying for it.

No offense bro but me being a guy and all, I'd rather share the room with tinkerbel than you biggrin.gif

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Oh damn... I thought tishaban's a fellow female!!!! rclxub.gif

So, what's provided other than accommodation? biggrin.gif Any way you can get a Buy 1 Free 1 C Class ticket?! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jason18689 @ Feb 21 2007, 09:44 PM)
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y dont u open a "Eten Glofish M700" thread and talk there instead of here ?
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Feb 21 2007, 10:40 PM)
No, the company's paying for it.

No offense bro but me being a guy and all, I'd rather share the room with tinkerbel than you biggrin.gif
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oh well..i'll go to UK then ;[

QUOTE(karhoe @ Feb 22 2007, 12:14 AM)
i am giving my opinion about it over here  vmad.gif
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your opinion is bias. the operating system in the phone is developed by apple(according to the tech sheet).
iPhone has wifi tho :] wifi > 3g

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UK..? Er.. But well, US's more fun!!!! nod.gif
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I'm definately looking at the iPhone as my next purchase..... but will see if they announce a 3G version.... then will have to wait for that one. I'm just praying they throw in GPS.... imagine using google maps with THAT!

At the moment..... my trusty S.E. Z800i will have to hold me until then..... unless my wallet gets itchy and forks out for a Walkman phone!
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QUOTE(ezinger @ Feb 22 2007, 12:37 AM)
iPhone has wifi tho :] wifi > 3g
are u sure??most of pda-phone even smart phone have wifi ready.in some cases wifi is better than 3G but i rather to have 3G than WiFi.why?what place are u going to use a wifi?hotspot?when there is a hotspot signal?? percentage of having 3G coverage also high right?

i won't buy IPHONE since it's don't have 3G and GPS (not very important for me.at least for now)

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Feb 21 2007, 05:23 PM)
I've been using AP sets for awhile biggrin.gif Haven't had problems before biggrin.gif

Granted Mots/SEs/Nokias are a piece of cake to unlock nowadays, but I have full faith in those crazy phone hackers in LYP/Sg Wang to crack the iPhone soon after its release.

So, anyone want to join me on my trip to the US in June? Visit the 5th Ave Apple Store, drool at the iPhone, maybe even buy one? biggrin.gif
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phone hackers in LYP/Sg Wang? are you sure? they use program/hack/services provided by developer/hacker originate from europe/Russia, not that they do it themselves.

QUOTE(ezinger @ Feb 21 2007, 06:10 PM)
its fair to say you are not completely sure unless you live in those countries [:
apple has worldwide warranty so im not too worried if anything happens [:
dang, do u think u could get some peripherals for me there =P
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i agreed with allvin this time. most probably it will be contracted/branded/locked to some telco in uk. most probably vodafone as always. not 100% sure yet but i stay in uk, hence that is my speculation. somemore, there is rumour going around that apple had already started to look for telco for the iphone in europe now.

so if it is branded/locked and contracted to some network, it really need time to crack and unlock it. and as always, apple stuff is not that easy to be cracked and it is the first phone by apple, no previous experience on apple phone by those hacker/developer etc, it gonna be long. and by the time it can be unlocked (maybe), iphone has reached asia for long. (e.g. most nokia bb5 platform, cant be unlocked yet until now)

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UK..? Er.. But well, US's more fun!!!!  nod.gif
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UK + europe more fun.. haha! topgear season 9 episode 2, top tips no. 2 - don't go to america.. ahah!
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iphone will be rm 2k-3k at least even in other country is cheaper. cool2.gif.

Look at ipod, kl is the most expensive in the region. Anytime think of this, will scrap the idea of getting a device actually is affordable but being jacked up by local dealers/tax.
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some info from hardmac

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Prices of both iPhone models released by Steve Jobs during the Keynote, 499$ for the 4GB model and 599$ for the 8GB model, could be the price for the subscription-free device. When signing up for 2 years with Cingular, iPhone models would then be available for 299$ and 399$ respectively. This information remains a rumor, and one could also question it as such price would cannibalize iPod sales. But maybe it is the goal...


hope the rumor became real/fact. then we will have cheaper iphone.
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Yes, the US$499 and US$599 are 'unlocked' iPhone version so chill out guys!
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Feb 22 2007, 02:29 AM)
phone hackers in LYP/Sg Wang? are you sure? they use program/hack/services provided by developer/hacker originate from europe/Russia, not that they do it themselves.
i agreed with allvin this time. most probably it will be contracted/branded/locked to some telco in uk. most probably vodafone as always. not 100% sure yet but i stay in uk, hence that is my speculation. somemore, there is rumour going around that apple had already started to look for telco for the iphone in europe now.

so if it is branded/locked and contracted to some network, it really need time to crack and unlock it. and as always, apple stuff is not that easy to be cracked and it is the first phone by apple, no previous experience on apple phone by those hacker/developer etc, it gonna be long. and by the time it can be unlocked (maybe), iphone has reached asia for long. (e.g. most nokia bb5 platform, cant be unlocked yet until now)
UK + europe more fun.. haha! topgear season 9 episode 2, top tips no. 2 - don't go to america.. ahah!
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yep, most of the time it will be with contract. The unlocked phone there seems to have higher price than normal.
But just take O2 line, their phones accept any sims

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QUOTE(hazx_one @ Feb 22 2007, 12:00 PM)
yep, most of the time it will be with contract. The unlocked phone there seems to have higher price than normal.
But just take O2 line, their phones accept any sims
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contract phone doesnt have to be locked to any network. with contract, you can get a lot of phones for free. but for sim/contract free phone, unlocked set is more expensive than branded or locked phone. not all o2 phones are unlocked. o2 xda and pda phones for examples are locked, doesnt accept any sim unless unlocked.

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Yes, the US$499 and US$599 are 'unlocked' iPhone version so chill out guys!
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well it is just a rumor at the moment. non-contract phone/sim free phone still can be branded and locked to network.

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well just think about it. O2 mini costs around RM2.3k while iPhone will be around RM2.1k so why complain when you get so many features in 1
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I'm still waiting for official reviews first lol.
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QUOTE(ezinger @ Feb 21 2007, 06:10 PM)
its fair to say you are not completely sure unless you live in those countries [:
apple has worldwide warranty so im not too worried if anything happens [:

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Eventhough i'm not staying at those countries, but i know few friends staying at those places.

Do u know that ipod and iphone is not that same? Even apple has worldwide warranty, once iphone is unlocked (illegally i assume), it will sure void warranty and you need go other shop to fix it or what. And iphone is the first phone made by apple. So it will be troublesome.

The way i look at apple's point of view, iphone need to be with contracted. Apple will gain some of the shares(profit again) from those network operators and the iphone can sell at much lower price. If without contract, apple won't gain that share profit and i don't think it can sell at that low price whistling.gif
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QUOTE(allvin @ Feb 22 2007, 01:04 PM)
Eventhough i'm not staying at those countries, but i know few friends staying at those places.

Do u know that ipod and iphone is not that same? Even apple has worldwide warranty, once iphone is unlocked (illegally i assume), it will sure void warranty and you need go other shop to fix it or what. And iphone is the first phone made by apple. So it will be troublesome.

The way i look at apple's point of view, iphone need to be with contracted. Apple will gain some of the shares(profit again) from those network operators and the iphone can sell at much lower price. If without contract, apple won't gain that share profit and i don't think it can sell at that low price  whistling.gif
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most of all, you are not apple's marketing manager. and i am completely sure apple know what is best for them by far better than you do. what if apple release their iphone both leased and unleased? what does that make you?
your opinion doesnt make much impact on apple's point of side for that matter that it doesnt matter somehow. your statement will always be an uncertain opinion [:
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Ok Ok.. Me need a new phone to replace my current one.... I don't think my phone can wait till the iPhone's released so give me another suggestion.....

Ok Ok.. I know I've totally gone out of topic.. SoweeZzzzz sad.gif
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I'm looking at perhaps the N77 but no reviews or not too many pictures/info on it been out yet *sigh*

Don't like SE's new keypad designs.... blush.gif
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this would be a phone to get without 3g.
especially all in one 8gig wide screen ipod.
can u imagine? i dumb my dopod/o2/symbian away
anyway a good strategy for apple, first with ipod ppl get mac, now with iphone more ppl will get mac
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The lower the better? *grins* tongue.gif
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this would be a phone to get without 3g.
especially all in one 8gig wide screen ipod.
can u imagine? i dumb my dopod/o2/symbian away
anyway a good strategy for apple, first with ipod ppl get mac, now with iphone more ppl will get mac
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i agree. they are developing many strategy for user to make switch. first with ipod, people will think 'this is great. i wonder what osx will be' so pple get mac. not enough, apple introduce boot camp, now mac = pc and people get a mac coz its now a pc. coz of this too i'll be getting myself a mac tongue.gif.

but i am thinking bout buying an ipod or iphone. should i buy an ipod now and save money later for iphone or should i save the money for an iphone? uhuh.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 23 2007, 10:51 AM)
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The lower the better? *grins*  tongue.gif
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Ya but if the price of the N73 is anything to go by, the N77 is going to be very expensive when it finally gets here. I still prefer Nokia's non-smart phones, the few smart phones I've tried seem to be a bit slower response wise.

But definitely hook it up to your MBP via bluetooth. Most of the Nokia Symbian based phones allow this, my ancient Nokia 6230 works with it too but I think the SE ones work the best. Once you get the feel of getting SMS and linking it to your addressbook and transferring videos straight from iMovie to the phone and ... trust me, it's amazing!


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but i am thinking bout buying an ipod or iphone. should i buy an ipod now and save money later for iphone or should i save the money for an iphone? uhuh.
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Buy an iPod now. Wait for the 2nd gen iPhone in 2008/9 when the bugs have been fixed and you get more cool accessories for it.


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Yeah, the little information I read on the N77 makes me wonder if I'll have enough $ to get the phone - maybe just get you to get the iPhone when ur in the States instead huh? *grins* rclxms.gif

Can't deny I find Nokia's smart phones a little slow but well, the lag's not something we can change, is there? Unlike others, i don't have special preference towards Nokia - though I must admit I'm looking at either just a SE or Nokia - obviously the latter would be good since I have sufficient chargers for home, and office *grins* tongue.gif

Er.... I don't think I'll be using much of my phone function much - plus to sync it with MBP.. er... i haven't even worked those programs yet... u wanna give me a demo?

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You're deciding between an iPod and iPhone? Er..... shouldn't we just work on objectives here since the iPod and iPhone are basically 2 different gadgets; obviously with iPhone having more value added stuff in it... blush.gif
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You're deciding between an iPod and iPhone?  Er..... shouldn't we just work on objectives here since the iPod and iPhone are basically 2 different gadgets; obviously with iPhone having more value added stuff in it...  blush.gif
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hehe. ya. but iphone is also an ipod but with wide screen tongue.gif. maybe i should buy a nano first and save money for the iphone. anyone read digg yesterday? it seems that apple will be able to use 'iPhone' name.
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True.. but iPod isn't iPhone... tongue.gif What's the main purpose for your purchase? To use it as a Phone or an MP3 player? If it's the latter, get the iPod, if it's the former get the iPhone - except take tishaban's advise and wait till Apple fixes all their bugs on the 1G iPhones nod.gif
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i'm gonna use all its functions. lolz. wi-fi surfing, phone, ipod. laugh.gif

maybe its wise to wait first as tishaban said. another thing we dunno is whether which telco will win the bids to be the operator.
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Perhaps it'll be an open phone for the Asian market? And if u want to use everything, then just get the iPhone ... and until it comes out, no need to talk about it lor tongue.gif
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having said that iPhone will most definitely be full of bugs is just bias.
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I never said iPhone be full of bugs - in fact, nothing in life is ever bug-free if u asked me smile.gif
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I never said iPhone be full of bugs - in fact, nothing in life is ever bug-free if u asked me  smile.gif
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count me known viruses for os x then just to prove your point [:

in fact, i never imply my statement at you [:
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When I've the time I'll look it up and list `em down... Besides, virus is just one of the disadvantages - i'm sure there are more rclxms.gif

But for now, what about cockroaches, ladybird, ants, etc. rclxms.gif
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having said that iPhone will most definitely be full of bugs is just bias.
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Maybe I should list the well known Apple problems before:

- Macbook staining (1st gen issue, fixed later)
- iBook logic board issues (1st gen issue, fixed in iBook G4)
- iMac G5 overheating issues (1st gen issue, fixed later)
- Powermac G5 power supply problems
- Powerbook display problems

All manufacturers today have some sort of issues with first generation products. It's how the manufacturer responds to that problem that separates the good from the nasty. I've no problems with Apple US before. I honestly have not had to do so with Apple Malaysia so far so no comments.

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*kEKkekeKEKek* brows.gif Got sifu oredi..... so, who's gonna help me list out the uh, known viruses for Macs, if any? blush.gif
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Feb 23 2007, 02:30 PM)
Maybe I should list the well known Apple problems before:

- Macbook staining (1st gen issue, fixed later)
- iBook logic board issues (1st gen issue, fixed in iBook G4)
- iMac G5 overheating issues (1st gen issue, fixed later)
- Powermac G5 power supply problems
- Powerbook display problems

All manufacturers today have some sort of issues with first generation products. It's how the manufacturer responds to that problem that separates the good from the nasty. I've no problems with Apple US before. I honestly have not had to do so with Apple Malaysia so far so no comments.
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all of the above has no relations with software issues. were in the topic of mobile phones and YET all of the above has no relations with any mobile phone issues or defectiveness. try harder [:


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*kEKkekeKEKek*  brows.gif  Got sifu oredi..... so, who's gonna help me list out the uh, known viruses for Macs, if any?  blush.gif
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hahaha list? one is enough [:

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A bit like how do you expect us to list defects of Apple manufactured phones when history states they never produced one before? rclxub.gif

Er... my above answer cannot meh? Er.. what about flies then? doh.gif
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all of the above has no relations with software issues. were in the topic of mobile phones and YET all of the above has no relations with any mobile phone issues or defectiveness. try harder [:
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Come now biggrin.gif hardware bugs are bugs too. And no, Apple is not immune to software/OS bugs either. iTunes on OSX alone has had plenty of bugs, from people losing their playlists to people being connected to the ITMS in the wrong country.

Don't defend Apple too hard dude, tinkerbel calls that fanboyism biggrin.gif Apple makes mistakes too. biggrin.gif

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shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif Me?! Er.. I learnt the term fanboyism from LYN.... but ah well, i'm not biased towards Apple tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 23 2007, 03:36 PM)
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A bit like how do you expect us to list defects of Apple manufactured phones when history states they never produced one before?  rclxub.gif

Er... my above answer cannot meh?  Er.. what about flies then?  doh.gif
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didnt u guys already made an assumption about something that is not even released? whistling.gif

QUOTE(tishaban @ Feb 23 2007, 04:01 PM)
Come now biggrin.gif hardware bugs are bugs too. And no, Apple is not immune to software/OS bugs either. iTunes on OSX alone has had plenty of bugs, from people losing their playlists to people being connected to the ITMS in the wrong country.

Don't defend Apple too hard dude, tinkerbel calls that fanboyism biggrin.gif Apple makes mistakes too. biggrin.gif
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now your comparing something irrelevant to mobile phones...are we still talking about mobile phones or what?

edit: and i dont need your prejudism :]

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Oops... ohmy.gif But nothing's perfect mah.... whistling.gif
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Come now biggrin.gif hardware bugs are bugs too. And no, Apple is not immune to software/OS bugs either. iTunes on OSX alone has had plenty of bugs, from people losing their playlists to people being connected to the ITMS in the wrong country.

Don't defend Apple too hard dude, tinkerbel calls that fanboyism biggrin.gif Apple makes mistakes too. biggrin.gif
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No need to argue with fanboyism tongue.gif Let him/her wins lo.. whistling.gif

Btw, IINM older version of mac os is quite unstable and have few crashes untill mac osx. I know i ever read some articles before. (i lazy to argue with fanboy google the facts out tongue.gif )

OS(Operating System) is made by programmers(human), and human do make mistakes. There is no "perfect" OS/softwares in this real world.

@ezinger, get a "real" life wink.gif

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now lets compare the human race with iPhone :]

guys you really have a sad excuse for a rebuttle; fanboyism? c'mon...

prejudism wins? hell iv even installed linux on my ipod and you guys call me a pro mac? i could call myself a telnet fanboy tho because of its superiority to any other..but im just not that bias..unless proven wrong :]

i dont understand why from iPhone, to mac hardware defects and to the human race. were all screwed :[

nothing is perfect is pretty subtle tho. isnt there any existing individual that has never encounter any problems with their electronic device?
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whatever it is, there's no need to speculate. we will only know once the device is out and feedback from the market review. best part we dont have to worry so badly since it will only be available in asia in 2008 or near 2009.
to get an ipod before iphone it's subjective to individuals. as for myself i dont mind getting both. i prefer to have my phone to be able to play mp3 and video, so far even WM5 / ppc 2003 / symbian could not satisfy me for various reasons such as screen size, lousy earphones. i think iphone is good for all-in-one device but then again ipod 80gig could serve better purpose as bootable hdd on mac and also as external hdd.
so to get ipod or iphone for music player or not and just stay with ipod blablabla will be a forever a delima. thx to apple to make things so 'easy' for us. anyway.. at the end of the day, u must be happy with what u spend on. i'm happy with macbook c2d black that i recently bought altou i almost get the macbookpro 17".
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**mouth zipped**

Ok Ok... I'm gonna keep me comments to meself since I'm not too prone to using an iPod rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wizardboy @ Feb 24 2007, 11:32 AM)
whatever it is, there's no need to speculate. we will only know once the device is out and feedback from the market review. best part we dont have to worry so badly since it will only be available in asia in 2008 or near 2009.
to get an ipod before iphone it's subjective to individuals. as for myself i dont mind getting both. i prefer to have my phone to be able to play mp3 and video, so far even WM5 / ppc 2003 / symbian could not satisfy me for various reasons such as screen size, lousy earphones. i think iphone is good for all-in-one device but then again ipod 80gig could serve better purpose as bootable hdd on mac and also as external hdd.
so to get ipod or iphone for music player or not and just stay with ipod blablabla will be a forever a delima. thx  to apple to make things so 'easy' for us. anyway.. at the end of the day, u must be happy with what u spend on. i'm happy with macbook c2d black that i recently bought altou i almost get the macbookpro 17".
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on account, i would obvoiusly agree on this [:

hell i dont really bother about its AIO functions and features of the iPhone because i already have any other gadgets. in my pov, i see iPhone more of a phone than anything else. i already have a almost high end symbian which doesnt even impress me much but symbian has to be the worst mobile os and i dont have to compare it with windows mobile matter of fact. dont we all know apple is always focused on the less dork side :]
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IPHONE LOVERS TAKE NOTEEEEEEEE !!!!

VERY GOOD NEWS !!!!

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I have a mac dealer whom is my friend confirmed with me that IPHONE WILL BE RELEASED IN MALAYSIA IN END OF JUNE OR EARLY JULY !!!

WHATS ELSE IS GOOD ABOUT IT????? PRICING !!!!
HOW MUCH??

LESS THAN RM 2000 !!!!! YAY !!!! rclxms.gif

SO GET YOUR CASH READY OK AND STOP DREAMING ANYMORE !

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IPHONE LOVERS TAKE NOTEEEEEEEE !!!!

VERY GOOD NEWS !!!!

rclxms.gif

I have a mac dealer whom is my friend confirmed with me that IPHONE WILL BE RELEASED IN MALAYSIA IN END OF JUNE OR EARLY JULY !!!

WHATS ELSE IS GOOD ABOUT IT????? PRICING !!!!
HOW MUCH??

LESS THAN RM 2000 !!!!! YAY !!!!  rclxms.gif

SO GET YOUR CASH READY OK  AND STOP DREAMING ANYMORE !
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(here's a hint: this is not insider info...)
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QUOTE(rozei81 @ Apr 7 2007, 07:45 PM)
IPHONE LOVERS TAKE NOTEEEEEEEE !!!!

VERY GOOD NEWS !!!!

rclxms.gif

I have a mac dealer whom is my friend confirmed with me that IPHONE WILL BE RELEASED IN MALAYSIA IN END OF JUNE OR EARLY JULY !!!

WHATS ELSE IS GOOD ABOUT IT????? PRICING !!!!
HOW MUCH??

LESS THAN RM 2000 !!!!! YAY !!!!  rclxms.gif

SO GET YOUR CASH READY OK  AND STOP DREAMING ANYMORE !
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i bet is another "crabby" news... WoW, what a shocking news rolleyes.gif
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/me is tired of this nonsense...

rozei81, unless you can show *some* proof, I'll just step up and call you a liar!
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Less than 2000 bucks, I would say Apple's really generous if it's true.
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No I don't believe it either. Anyone can say their friend say this say that.
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i dont believe it can sell less than 2000 ... imposible ..
or maybe less than 2000 singapore dollar ?
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it costs $499 in US If im not mistaken, convert it to MYR is RM18++
probably its true..lets just wait n see rclxms.gif
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it costs $499 in US If im not mistaken, convert it to MYR is RM18++
probably its true..lets just wait n see  rclxms.gif
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Plus $499 is with signing contract. So without signing contract, it will be more.
I think it will be more than RM2000.
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I believe it's true. We shoudn't say our friend is a liar just because they don't have enough prove. Let them say what they want, they might have good and true info.
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I believe it's true. We shoudn't say our friend is a liar just because they don't have enough prove. Let them say what they want, they might have good and true info.
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It's not a question of proof. It's a matter of logic.

The iPhone is as yet an unreleased product. From a manufacturer (Apple) that has never ventured into this market (mobile phones). Even in the US, the final details of what constitutes the business plan of the iPhone is unknown other than the carrier (Cingular) and that it WILL be tied to a service contract. How long, the pricing and terms of that contract are UNKNOWN.

Therfore: How in the world could anyone logically know what the business plan, particularly something as elusive as pricing, would be in the tiny market known as Malaysia?

As an example; take another US product: The Treo 680. It took almost 6 months for that product to make it here. And nobody knew the eventual pricing until about a month before it hit the shelves.


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It's not a question of proof. It's a matter of logic.

The iPhone is as yet an unreleased product. From a manufacturer (Apple) that has never ventured into this market (mobile phones). Even in the US, the final details of what constitutes the business plan of the  iPhone is unknown other than the carrier (Cingular) and that it WILL be tied to a service contract. How long, the pricing and terms of that contract are UNKNOWN.

Therfore: How in the world could anyone logically know what the business plan, particularly something as elusive as pricing, would be in the tiny market known as Malaysia?

As an example; take another US product: The Treo 680. It took almost 6 months for that product to make it here. And nobody knew the eventual pricing until about a month before it hit the shelves.
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Why argue the truth? We all will know once it comes out isnt it?
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The US price is with the contract, i think the actual price will be higher. Apple won't be that generous, especially outside US. Compare the Ipod price in china and US (Ipod is made in china), we can estimate the Iphone price in Malaysia. Btw, how to type SMS with this phone?
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The US price is with the contract, i think the actual price will be higher. Apple won't be that generous, especially outside US. Compare the Ipod price in china and US (Ipod is made in china), we can estimate the Iphone price in Malaysia. Btw, how to type SMS with this phone?
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Everything on the Iphone is touch screen based.
Saw the video conference on the I-phone by Steve Jobs himself, quite a really facisnating product i might say.

Wonder anyone has the links to that clip?Saw them playing endlessly at the Apple shop in One Utama.

Oh yeah saving money for one I-phone too.....

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QUOTE(quiksilve @ Apr 12 2007, 04:01 PM)
Everything on the Iphone is touch screen based.
Saw the video conference on the I-phone by Steve Jobs himself, quite a really facisnating product i might say.

Wonder anyone has the links to that clip?Saw them playing endlessly at the Apple shop in One Utama.

Oh yeah saving money for one I-phone too.....

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http://www.apple.com/iphone/keynote/ This is the link for the video you were talking about. The iPhone is...undescribable, Apple is the best!

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post Apr 13 2007, 05:34 PM

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I thought Jobs mentioned that that iphone would be released to US around June and 2008 for other parts of the world?

Rozei's claims doesn't make sense.
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post Apr 14 2007, 11:52 PM

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Bros...don't forget the iPhone will be sold as unlocked GSM as well
lah.Don'talways wait for Maxis or TMnet to offer subscription plans mah right?
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post Apr 15 2007, 10:09 AM

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The iPhone will most definitely hit US stores come June. Apple even delayed the release of Leopard to October, which I believe is to facilitate the iPhone's release. There's already talk of limited units being produced in time for the June release, so the chances of it being available in Malaysia is highly unlikely.
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QUOTE(illbient @ Apr 14 2007, 09:09 PM)
The iPhone will most definitely hit US stores come June. Apple even delayed the release of Leopard to October, which I believe is to facilitate the iPhone's release. There's already talk of limited units being produced in time for the June release, so the chances of it being available in Malaysia is highly unlikely.
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that is just a rumor. apple squashed it and denied they delayed leopard


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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Apr 8 2007, 03:01 AM)
It's not a question of proof. It's a matter of logic.

The iPhone is as yet an unreleased product. From a manufacturer (Apple) that has never ventured into this market (mobile phones). Even in the US, the final details of what constitutes the business plan of the  iPhone is unknown other than the carrier (Cingular) and that it WILL be tied to a service contract. How long, the pricing and terms of that contract are UNKNOWN.

Therfore: How in the world could anyone logically know what the business plan, particularly something as elusive as pricing, would be in the tiny market known as Malaysia?

As an example; take another US product: The Treo 680. It took almost 6 months for that product to make it here. And nobody knew the eventual pricing until about a month before it hit the shelves.
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i dont know why u keep on saying the details are yet to be known. it was said 1 or 2 months ago that it will cost $500 and $600 plus a 2 year contract.

You really are teh gay for not being bothered to check any sources before splurting crap.

http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-service...ials/iPhone.jsp


Added on April 15, 2007, 8:32 pm
QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Apr 7 2007, 07:41 AM)
Word from the wise: learn to differentiate "insider info" from "bullshit".

(here's a hint: this is not insider info...)
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yeah? based on your previous posts, you cant even gather public info.. so why dont you stop telling others how to "defferentiate" leaks from bulshit cuz ure not so far from the latter

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post Apr 17 2007, 06:51 PM

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dudes the i phone costs at least 4k u know
read some reviews la
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hmm..
i 1ce saw the proposed iphone..it wasn;t like da 1 in the ads now..

it was more like the ipod nano gen2 on the surface..
slide it up den u will c its key pad..
sort of like a slide hp i suppose..

anyone care 2 comment??
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How much is the actual price? I will buy one because it is extremely stylish but it should be very expensive.
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do u think the phone could servive under water because i heard a rumor tat it can

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It is rather behind in terms of technology by the time it gets here (est Q1 2008).
I mean, come on, a 2 Megapixel camera? and only one in the front?
Other features it lacks would be an extra camera for video conferencing, and even GPS navigation.

I know, I know, not everybody has a use for all the extra features in most 3G phones today, but if I'm going to plonk down RM2000~3000 on a cellphone, I'd expect that it has everything plus a swiss army knife installed.

When the iPhone hits the market, only time and consumer will tell if Functionality + Ease of Use >> Hefty Price + Lack of Extra Features.

Just my 2cents worth.


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QUOTE(moneyface_mario @ Apr 18 2007, 01:53 PM)
do u think the phone could servive under water because i heard a rumor tat it can
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Wow what kind of baseless rumour is that?

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