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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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Imsexyandiknowit
post Apr 12 2018, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(siawyent @ Apr 12 2018, 11:18 AM)
Just back from Mbsb, I showed them the Bank Islam offer and requested for same rate, 4.65% for 2 years.  Finally got approval and made it.  So save the hassles to move funds around.

If anyone got big amount can try to nego with banks.  And pls share with us in the forum, thanks ya :nod:
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may i know whch branch of mbsb offering such rates
,Please. thanks
Imsexyandiknowit
post Apr 13 2018, 09:42 AM

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[quote=siawyent,Apr 13 2018, 08:41 AM]
Kuching.

thanks for the info..looks like it is difficult to convince my branch as they do not believe it that kuching branch has such rates.

Imsexyandiknowit
post Apr 13 2018, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(siawyent @ Apr 13 2018, 09:45 AM)
I think they have to ask approval from HQ.
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they tried but not approved..too bad.thanks anyway

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post May 25 2024, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ May 4 2024, 01:35 AM)
Contacted branch manager, she doesn't know of this promotion. So I guess only rumours now... For FD MBSB best at 4%, but technically you get only 3.99%...
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A lot of customers of MBSB UNFORTUNATELY did not realised that they were taken for a ride.Advertised 4% but only given3.99%.Something is terribly wrong with their calculation.Although the percentage is small but the Principal behind it ...they need to rectify it immediately and not simply ignore it.For every deposit placed you get lesser interest.It is your right to demand exactly the correct interest to be paid otherwise they will take you as suckers.This should not be the precedent to begin with and should not be accepted.It is your right to demand it to be corrected.
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post May 29 2024, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(oldkiasu @ May 26 2024, 12:16 AM)
Joeblow and iamsexyandiknowit

Good that you observe that you are not getting what you expect.
However, regret to inform you that MBSB and some other banks also employ the 366 divisor for days in 2024 leap year and 365 divisor in 2025 for calculating interest.
This leap year method had been illustrated in this forum before, as one of the different peculiarities when dealing with FD in different banks.
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Would appreciate if you could share which other banks apply such calculation.Theoretically the bank should pay 1 day extra for interest on leap year and not lesser ( than usual) to the DEPOSITOR.Per annum means 365 days.Thanks in advance.
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post May 30 2024, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ May 29 2024, 07:44 PM)
it is very common for banks to follow calendar days in a year. so if leap year have 366 days hence interest also divided by 366. not 365.

it is PER ANNUM. No where it is specified that per annum means 365 days only, unless strictly stated so..

also, if your interest is RM100 PA. then that is your max interest possible already. If you have 400 days in a year also the max you getting is still RM100. The bank wont be owing you extra 35 days of interest
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I don't think it is very common for BANKS to use this (divided by 366 days for leap year.)That's why I am curious to find out.Universally it is known a year consists of 365 days.So per annum would means a year.Also bear in mind the daily interest the bank incorporated.
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post Jun 1 2024, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(oldkiasu @ Jun 1 2024, 10:42 AM)
The banks mentioned before in various posts. If remember correctly, they were Maybank, Ambank, MBSB.Not sure about RHB as long time did not place FD with them.
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I don't agree with the banks you mentioned especially Am bank, that's not the calculation that they applied.I know and are very SURE because I have placement with them.For the other 2 banks they apply 365 as per annum even on a leap year.Perhaps you should check it out...Let me know if I AM WRONG.Thanks anyway
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post Jun 2 2024, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Jun 1 2024, 11:26 PM)
2024- is leap year. so 366 days
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Who doesn't know 2024 is a leap year?Please elaborate more if you wish to comment.
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post Jun 10 2024, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ Jun 10 2024, 07:28 PM)
LOL you summed up my experience in BI. Seriously funny how BI and MBSB operate. This special 4% sometimes can get, sometimes cannot. Sometimes need fresh fund, sometimes don't need. I suspect depends on the mood of the people in HQ.

But BI confirm for me is better than MBSB. MBSB doesn't give full 4% plus if FD matures over weekend no carry over.
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Yes you are right MBSB do not give 4% as advertised.They misled and short changed most of the ignorant depositors.Those who make noise and raise the issue will get it amended..otherwise they thought beggars cannot be choosy..(since they are offering the attractive rate in town.)MBSB is tarnishing its reputation if they do not honour they commitment .BI is a better deal and transparent.
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post Jun 10 2024, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 10 2024, 08:05 PM)
mind to explain? Im out of the loop. what is this thing about MBSB shortchanging fd depositors?

is it the 365 vs 366 days thing?
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Refer to my post on May 30th..Post30593 page 1530.
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post Jun 10 2024, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 10 2024, 08:45 PM)
read it, still dont understand how they only give out 3.99% instead of 4%.

Is it because purely a calculation error or is it because they use 366 days instead of 365 days?
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In the financial industry world wide,4% means 4% no such thing as 3.99%. If it is. A LEAP year they have to pay you even more ..extra 1 day interest.,not less and cannot be compromised.No bank would dare do it except MBSB.
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post Jun 11 2024, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 10 2024, 11:21 PM)
hmm ok, since im curious about this. i go and check my previous BI FD, placement 9th june last year, standard maturity supposed to be 9th june this year, but since 9th this year was a sunday, so actual maturity delayed to next working day, monday 10th june. 9th june 23 to 10th june 24, the total days = 367. so got 2 days extra from the usual 365 pa. 1 day being the leap day and 1 more day being sunday

Upon checking the interest, they did credited extra 2 days worth of interest at the same rate. So i get your point now that even if 366 days, then should be getting more instead of lesser.

Since i have no reference with MBSB, so idk how is it. But if according to what you say happened, then yeah kinda dumb for not getting the full 4% amount.. Like how does it even happen..
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The whole purpose of raising this is to create the awareness and not to argue after all it is your right and your $ (revenue).Some will perceived as alright and acceptable( by mentioning apply the 366 divisor..bla bla )Some even mentioned and quote other banks using similar calculations(they only ASSUMED hahaha.)Basically if your wages is Rm1 per day ...your income is GUARANTEED Rm365 per annum(regardless) and on a leap year RM 366.It is just illogical to be paid less than Rm 365 ESPECIALLY on a leap year!Probably I would perceived those as 'SMART ALEC'.Glad that BI did not use the 366 divisor on your recent fd...in fact none would except....hahahaha..(for the smart Alec to comment)
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post Jun 12 2024, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 12 2024, 08:45 AM)
1)Per annum specifically means complete 12 months of that  particular year
It means  1 year yes, but
2023 -  1 year is 365days,
2024 - 1 year is 366 days.
mana boleh  1 year in 2024 you insist is 365 days?

Do you know 1 year actually is not 365 days?
it is more than that  365.25days.

and so Leap year is time for  pay back.
2)So how can you expect a  1 year FD in Leap year to pay you extra 1 day?

say you put RM100k at interest 4.00% per annum,
2.1.24 -2.1.25 = 1 year = 366 days

you expect to get interest for 366 days?
Yes you get  for 366 days ,
the bank will calculate 366 days for you,
but you cant get extra 1 day interest

Because Interest =  RM100 000 x 4% x 366/366 = RM4000 only

How can you expect the bank to pay you like this?

RM100 000 x 4% x 366/365 = RM4010.96 ?
366/365 means more than  1

remember bank calculate every day in the year for you, but it uses divisor 366 you cant escape
you cant get any more than you can.
except MBSB? No you are wrong
many use 366 as divisor for leap year.. Ambank, PBB, Rize etc...oldkiasu can list all for you
he  checks on all these things since long ago,
i didnt bother to check till  you bring up the issue of MBSB cheating..
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Do your research before commenting.Also do not put words in my mouth..did I ever say cheating by Mbsb?Dont be irresponsible.It is so easy to quote others' previous comment.(It has to be factual)You can refer my earlier post30628 page 1532.Who doesn't know how many days in a year?You must be kidding.
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post Jun 12 2024, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Jun 12 2024, 01:35 PM)
shortchange
cheat (someone) by giving insufficient money as change.
"I'm sure I was short-changed at the bar"
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It can also mean you are given less of something than you deserve.
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post Jun 13 2024, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 12 2024, 06:26 PM)
eh bro please give him some time to explain

ini MBSB cheating or he tak tahu kira
very important.
i support
yes i am waiting for him to show how  MBSB paid him only 3.99% instead of 4%
many are waiting for him to explain, so far he just made accusation without showing us the proof
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I dont think it is worth deliberating any further and to show you any proof simply because those who have placement would know the fact that they are not getting the 4% as advertised.Period.Besides, you dont seems to understand the core of the issue..perhaps you are too naive and foolish to think that I do not know how the calculation is done.Never insult the intelligence of anyone.Whatever was raised was factual and not accusation.

 

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