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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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mrhseinpingq
post Dec 30 2017, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Dec 30 2017, 06:13 PM)
Surely they have to do better than that? Why extend? Need to give better offer if want to beat the competition. Even now find their offers too unattractive compared to others.
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Consider quite good

MBB is 4.30% for 15m

PBB is 4.18% for 12m

RHB is 4.15% for 11m.

AmB is 4.30% for 12m. Islamic only.
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post Dec 31 2017, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Dec 31 2017, 01:16 AM)
Don't have enough money to layan those not competitive with top or second topmost promo offer. Only interested in hunting for best deal.
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Can I know what is the best deal you mean?

Do you mean AmB is 4.30% for 12m. Islamic only?

Thank you.
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post Dec 31 2017, 08:17 PM

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http://www.winrayland.com/2017/12/OPR-BNM.html

Looks like interest rate going to increase soon
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post Jan 2 2018, 07:11 PM

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https://www.rhbgroup.com/products-and-servi...asures-campaign


RHB
Every new deposit of RM50,000 One (1) small-sized 24K gold-plated dog figurine.


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post Jan 3 2018, 08:12 PM

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For opening Promotion FD.

I put 40k as fresh fund into my Saving Account, then ask for open Promotion FD (either RHB or other bank), do they take out the 25k direct from my saving account or they need do to a cheque (charge me Rm 5)

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QUOTE(gsc @ Jan 3 2018, 12:57 PM)
Misleading statement...it is FD interest plus  the gold plated dog
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put in 50k for 6 months, just for a gold plated dog (worth RM 238) and 6 months interest not a lot.

Might as well put in 12 months, 4.10% promotion FD, am I correct?

RHB bank, e-FD maturity date is today (03/01/2018), can uplift today to earn the interest or need wait tomorrow to uplift?
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post Jan 3 2018, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jan 3 2018, 09:11 PM)
it's not FD interest, most is CASA interest which is low.
Totally not worth it unless you want that Gold Plated Dog.
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Yes, totally not worth.
might as well put in Promotion FD for the 50k.

CASA interest is nothing
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post Jan 3 2018, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(acougan @ Jan 3 2018, 08:30 PM)
No charge, just a signature from the depositor is enough.
Today, use the "Withdrawal" option in the RHB online leftside menu.
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They said the need to open a bank cheque that charge RM 5.00.
Is that what is correct?
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post Jan 5 2018, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(poor man @ Jan 5 2018, 09:29 PM)
Alliance Bank Fixed Deposit from 18 December 2017 to 31 January 2018
min 10k place fd and min 10k place sa total min 20k
9 months 4.25 % p.a
12 months 4.30 % p.a.
T&C https://www.alliancebank.com.my/Alliance/me...TnC.pdfechanics
wed https://www.alliancebank.com.my/promotions/...d-campaign.aspx
5. To qualify for this Campaign, Eligible Customers must place “New Funds” of a minimum of RM10,000 in Fixed
Deposit (FD). During the time of placement, Eligible Customers must have an Alliance Bank Current Account or
Saving Account (CASA) and the account must have a minimum of RM 10,000 throughout the campaign period.
(“New Funds” are defined as funds that are not derived from any existing account(s) within the Bank or its
subsidiaries. It must not be funds transferred from any existing Savings/Current/Fixed Deposit/Foreign Currency
Account(s) of the Bank or in the form of cheques, cashier’s orders or demand drafts issued by the Bank.
Deposits that are not New Funds would not be eligible for the Campaign).
6. This campaign is subject to FD placements for 9 & 12 months tenure only.
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10k in CASA must maintain throughout the whole FD 12m or 6m?
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post Jan 5 2018, 09:49 PM

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Deposits placed with a member bank of PIDM is protected up to RM250,000 per depositor per member bank.

http://www.pidm.gov.my/en/for-public/frequ...-system-(faqs)/

If my saving account is joint name of 2 person, so total will be Rm 500,000?
Any link for confirmation?
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post Jan 6 2018, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jan 6 2018, 05:25 PM)
Do you have problem understanding Q13 and Q10 and the answers in the official PIDM FAQ?

If you only have 1 saving account at a bank group, the protection is only RM 250,000. Does not matter what whether joint, personal or whatever.

If you want PIDM for RM 500,000, you need 2 "eligible account as having a different sole or joint depositors named in the account in conventional or Islamic banking of the same bank group".

Usually the following ways are used.

Choice 1:-
Personal sole conventional account - eligible 250k protection
Personal sole Islamic account - eligible another 250k protection for total of 500k protection.

or

Choice 2:-
Personal sole conventional account - eligible 250k protection
Joint conventional account - eligible another 250k protection for total of 500k protection.

or

Choice 3:-
Personal sole conventional account - eligible 250k protection
Joint Islamic account - eligible another 250k protection for total of 500k protection.

or

Choice 4:-
Personal sole Islamic account - eligible 250k protection
Joint conventional account - eligible another 250k protection for total of 500k protection.

or

Choice 5:-
Personal sole Islamic account - eligible 250k protection
Joint Islamic account - eligible another 250k protection for total of 500k protection.

If you wanted RM 1,000,000 PIDM, then you need 4 eligible accounts as follows usually:-

Personal sole conventional account
Personal sole Islamic account
Joint conventional account
Joint Islamic account

If you want more, you can simply make more different eligible accounts by having one more name for a 3 name Joint accounts, or having a different person for the 2 name Joint accounts.

WARNINGS:- Some banks do not let business accounts to enjoy the same FD promo - so forget about that way.
For joint savings accounts, the first name and the fact that it is joint may have some sticky problems with some banks in FD operations.
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Thank you for your reply.

Question 1:
Let say RHB is joint account of 2 name (A and B). RHB have RM 500,000. So A get RM 250,000 and B get RM 250,000 ?
(In Q13, they does not mention in details)

Question 2:
Will it cover by per member bank?

Let say I have RM 250,000 in CIMB Bank Berhad and RM 250,000 in RHB bank. If both CIMB and RHB bank fails, how much compensation i will get in total?
Will it be RM 250,000 from CIMB and RM 250,000 from RHB, total will be RM 500,000?










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post Jan 6 2018, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jan 6 2018, 06:11 PM)
Q1 :- PIDM only interested in eligible account - don't care whether 1, 2, 3 or even 5 persons in the eligible account. So only get RM 250,000.

Q2:- CIMB and RHB are now different Bank groups, so 2 eligible accounts. So can get RM 500,000 altogether.

If CIMB and RHB merges and become one banking group, the RM 500,000 will change to RM 250,000 after a stated number of 2 years. Refer to Q15 of PIDM FAQ.
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Thank you, understand now.

So, is better to have:
1. RHB Sole Conventional Saving Account (A name) RM 250k
2. RHB Joint Conventional Account, 2 name (A and B), RM 500k.

So A will get RM 250k from Sole Account and RM 250k from Join Account. Total RM 500k.
And B will get RM 250k from join account.

Am I correct?
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post Jan 6 2018, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jan 6 2018, 06:50 PM)
No.
Only 250k + 250k = 500 k all in.

You should not think of person each getting 250k or even of accounts. Just think as if PIDM just pays entitled entities like sole proprietor, partnership or company.

The core reason for the continued poor understanding of PIDM is due to the poor choice of English, the use of ambiguous concepts for ordinary people,- instead of trying to educate to a different and more precise viewpoint.
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Thank you. Yes, quite confusing the website.

So only one Joint Conventional Account get maximum 250k.
OR
Joint Islamic Account get maximum 250k


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post Jan 6 2018, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(starry @ Jan 4 2018, 06:34 PM)
Hi sifu,
For HL OTC 12 mth 4.3%, is interest paid out monthly or every six months as reported by FunnyNinja?
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Is this Hong Leong promotion FD still available?
Any official link?

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post Jan 6 2018, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(acougan @ Jan 6 2018, 10:12 PM)
Thank you. I just read it.

The blogger said:
RHB Bank

4.25% for 13 months looks great until you read the fine prints, i.e. you need to have RM20K and above in CASA. However, I can find anywhere in the T&C that states the RM20K in CASA must be earmarked for x days or months. So, I guess you can withdraw the money in the CASA once your FD has been placed, hahaha.



--> We can withdraw the CASA 20k after FD placement the next day, am I correct? Because the Term and condition in website didnt said need maintain 20k for how many days.
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post Jan 7 2018, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jan 7 2018, 07:27 PM)
NO - not meaning like that. For explanation, say you are A, father F, mother M.

Conventional Entitled Entities

A, A+F, A+M, A+F+M

4 entities for conventional 250k x 4 = 1m

Make some more Islamic Entitled Entities

A-i, (A+F)-i, (A+M)-i, (A+F+M)-i

4 more entities for islamic 250k x 4 = 1m

Total 8 different entities 2m.

Please do not mix up with other explanations where you A is not in entity. This had been explained in many places about a trusting family of 3.

The extra non-A entities are:-

F, M, and F+M, F-i, M-i and (F+M)-i

6 more entities having only F and M involved and entitled to 250k x 6 = 1.5m

Thus  a family of 3 can have a maximum of 2 + 1.5 = 3.5m
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Can I make conclusion that:

Do not make 250k above for either One joint account convention, because max join account convention max PIDM is 250k ONLY.

Am I correct?
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post Jan 7 2018, 09:00 PM

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RHB promotion FD, CASA need maintain 20k for how long?
(didnt mention in term and condition)

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post Jan 8 2018, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Ah SiAnG @ Jan 7 2018, 10:41 PM)
Why do you keep on repeating the same question over and over again? If there is no clear answer maybe you can take up the initiative to call the Bank and share with us your finding?
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found out, the website have typo mistake.

can withdraw the next day.
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post Jan 8 2018, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jan 7 2018, 09:07 PM)
YES if you mean joint FD entity having persons A and B.
It won't help if open another joint FD having persons B (as first name) and A.
Both FD accounts treated as one entitled entity - sama geng orang - only worth 250k.
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I think you are wrong.

I got a reply from PIDM officially

_____________________________________________________________________________________________
Thank you again for your email.

For joint accounts, each joint account holder will be assumed to have an equal share of the deposits.

In your example, you and your wife will be assumed to have RM 250,000 each (totalling RM 500,000 in the account). Assuming you and your wife do not have other accounts with CIMB, you and your wife will be covered for RM 250,000 each. However, if your wife has other personal accounts in the same bank, her portion of RM 250,000 in the joint savings account and the deposits in her other personal accounts will be aggregated and insured for RM 250,000.

If you have further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Regards,
Raymond Ong


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post Jan 8 2018, 10:36 PM

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RHB, 13 months, 4.25% still until 31 March 2018.
extended 3rd time if i am not mistaken
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post Jan 8 2018, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Nom-el @ Jan 8 2018, 04:45 PM)
Who did you contact regarding this? PIDM's Customer Service? Based on the information provided on the website, this is not how it works. Unless the information provided in the website is outdated, I think his understanding is wrong.

http://www.pidm.gov.my/en/for-public/depos...lation-for-dis/

Do confirm again with them on this and ask for black & white if possible.

Sometimes, the info provided by customer service officers might be inaccurate. The accuracy depends on the individual officer's knowledge and experience on the subject matter. I have experienced getting inaccurate information from customer service officers from banks either in person over the counter, by email or by phone. Sometimes, different officers might give different answers to the same exact question. Sometimes, the answer from HQ might differ from the answer provided by the branch. 

Maybe someone else can contact PIDM and see if they get the same answer from a different officer.
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Yes, I email PIDM.

I email PB and ask, different answer. Same with Joint Account max only RM 250k


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