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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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post Mar 1 2023, 11:00 PM

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Once again kudos to our members who have done a great job compressing bank's NII! laugh.gif

https://www.sinchew.com.my/?p=4506918
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post Mar 10 2023, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(oldkiasu @ Mar 10 2023, 10:30 AM)
Normally the simple interest formula for FD Interest = Principal x Rate/100 x Number of Days/365 for banks using the 365 divisor method.

However, for customers of banks using the Leap Year method (Maybank, Ambank and who else?), the simple interest formula used is

FD Interest = Principal x Rate/100 x Number of Interest Bearing Days in Non-Leap Year/365 + Principal x Rate/100 x Number of Interest Bearing Days in Leap Year/366

which can be simplified to

FD Interest = Interest Payable per IBD x IBD in Non-Leap Year + Interest Payable per IBD x IBD in Leap Year

If OTC place at Ambank on Monday 3 April 2023 for 1 year, there will be 273 IBD for year 2023, and 93 IBD for year 2024.

If OTC place on Tuesday 4 April 2023, there will be 272 IBD for year 2023, and 94 IBD for year 2024.

The total FD Interest to be paid decreases after each day in 2023 as the IBD for year 2023 decreases and the IBD of 2024 increases.

Usually occassional FD placers are not bothered or rather it can be said that they are hapless to do anything.

For bank staff or staff handling fixed deposit funds, this is an issue as they have to explain the decreasing interests to clients or auditors.

For clients that make a few placements at the same rate, they are disappointed. That is if they are observant enough to check what they get for each placement.

For businesses or those who set aside a  certain set sum on a regular basis weekly or monthly, this changes/upsets their cashflow expectations - whether they use it to pay for things in a year or for buying medicine or installments.

Of course rich people without any cashflow plans/needs do not understand such things as it is beyond their experience to be poorer.
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Very nice write-up. Mind to share where did you obtain this piece of info? Can't find it in major banks' website.
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post Mar 10 2023, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Mar 10 2023, 02:58 PM)
Some people too free, waste their life writing imaginary things of no value.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Mar 10 2023, 04:25 PM)
Aiya, if dont like to read just put under Ignore List. Some people find that info useful on how to calculate, some not. No need to start another flaming war and have to summon Mod again.
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Actually such leap/non-leap year convention is known as the ACT/ACT convention in finance. The one assuming 365 days in a year regardless of leap/non-leap is the ACT/365 convention. (There are others like ACT/360, ACT/365, 30/360, 30E/360 etc.),

It may not be a big deal at all for small retail investors/depositors but can matter a lot in the interbank market or for those with HNWI status, as contentchris computed, 80 to 100 MYR per million per year.

What surprises me is that different banks use different conventions. I used to think they are all equal.

*ACT = actual, 30/360 means 30 days in a month, 360 days in a year

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post Mar 18 2023, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(sweetpea123 @ Mar 18 2023, 03:05 PM)
For me , no more CIMB Tia. Once bitten twice shy.

Ask your RM to show B+W, sure tak boleh.  tongue.gif
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How far was the actual rate off from the "projected" rate quoted initially for your case?
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post Jun 6 2023, 09:23 PM

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Not sure if this has been posted before: https://www.jiuzyoung.com/latest/malaysia-b...it-rate-latest/

An overview of FD promos in June.
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post Aug 8 2023, 12:27 AM

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Malaysia bank FD promo overview (in Mandarin), updated as of 1st August: https://www.jiuzyoung.com/latest/malaysia-b...it-rate-latest/
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post Jul 5 2024, 09:00 AM

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Latest FD promo updates I can find (as at 2nd July): https://www.winrayland.com/2024/07/Fixed-Deposit.html
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post Aug 2 2024, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Aug 2 2024, 09:24 AM)
Ambank promo this week if anyone is interested

For fresh fund/ existing/ renewal)
3-month @ 3.50% p.a.
6-month @ 3.70% p.a.
12-month @ 3.75% p.a.

Promo rate (Conventional & Islamic)
18-month @ 3.80% p.a. (Fresh Fund only) ( expired 31/7/24)

Offer validity:
29 July 2024  - 04 Aug 2024
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What is the minimum deposit amount required ya? smile.gif
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post Aug 3 2024, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(sg8989 @ Aug 3 2024, 08:07 PM)
BE U BANK ISLAM is offering 4% P.A 12month lock period, can use apps to transfer.
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I don't see any mention of such promo here though: https://getbeu.com/

Is there an minimum deposit amount required?
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post Aug 5 2024, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Aug 5 2024, 03:06 PM)
Just opened a BEU savings account and deposited Rm20. 👍🏻
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You may withdraw the 20 MYR deposit afterwards. No need to keep any balance at BeU savings account.

Not sure about the interests and crediting frequency though. If it's daily interests... brows.gif (round - up)
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post Aug 5 2024, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Aug 5 2024, 03:42 PM)
why no detail on interest gain on BEU saving acc? confirmed not daily
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I see.

Do you happen to know the rates for the Qard saving account? I check this page and the terms and conditions PDF, no mention of how many % p.a. earned for the Qard saving account: https://getbeu.com/product/Be-U-QSA
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post Aug 7 2024, 08:57 AM

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I placed Be U Term Deposit-i FD today. I notice that after I added the withdrawal account details (my own Be U Qard saving account), I can't change it anymore...

Imagine if the withdrawal account number is typed wrongly...

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post Aug 7 2024, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Aug 7 2024, 10:40 AM)
Wah...seems like this BEU loads of problem. Don't want to use already. Later transfer back my RM20. 😅
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Another Rize in the making laugh.gif Not sure CS as good as Rize or not though lol
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post Aug 7 2024, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Aug 7 2024, 11:01 AM)
u just select only. where got key in ACC detail
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After you set up the Term Deposit, there is an "Add Withdrawal Account" button at the bottom of the screen once you click into the individual term deposit. You can then choose the withdrawal account from a list of banks in Malaysia and be prompted to enter your bank account details. The button will then disappear once the withdrawal account is set up and it seems that it is applied uniformly to all term deposit accounts - you cannot choose different withdrawal accounts for each term deposit.

Of course if you read the T&C they say they will credit the principal + interests back to your Be U Qard saving account if you opened one earlier. But just to be safe, I manually specify my Be U Qard saving account as my withdrawal account and only then I realize this can't be changed... Probably have to call customer service to do so.

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QUOTE(cu94 @ Aug 7 2024, 10:41 AM)
Hi, how do u guys doing the e-KYC process in Be U app? There is no any button for me to snap picture while i go through the front IC process. I already grant camera permission to the apps.
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Notice the 4 sides of the frame will be highlighted in white when you adjust the camera positions, you need to choose a brightly lit location to place your IC and keep adjusting the camera position until ALL 4 frames are highlighted in white. Then the photo will be taken automatically.
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post Aug 7 2024, 11:24 AM

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It also took me forever to generate the Be U Term Deposit-i certificates...

Not sure if you guys have the same issue.

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Aug 7 2024, 11:32 AM)
oh...i created BEU saving ACC first, then do Term Deposit from there. So just select BEU acc.
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Hmm same case as yours, I opened BEU Qard SA first, transfer in the money then only proceed to place TD-i.

Just to clear up confusion, I am referring to maturity instructions, not source of fund for the term deposit.

For maturity instructions, the only option I see is the "Add withdrawal account" button in the term deposit page. (And I didn't know it uniformly applies to all other term deposits at BEU as well back then.)

I am not sure what will happen if you don't add any withdrawal account. One would guess according to the T&C that the money will be credited back to Qard SA, but the kiasi side of me wanna make sure everything is certain right from the start haha
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Aug 7 2024, 11:45 AM)
where to check where it withdraw to? already did few deposit, did not see withdraw ACC. Only can see download cert & early withdrawal
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See if there is any button at the bottom of your screen below (the red highlighted box, mine is empty because I added the withdrawal account already).

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QUOTE(dudester @ Aug 7 2024, 02:29 PM)
I find this to be true.
Successfully deposited my Term Deposit.
When adding withdrawal account, i entered my BI account.
It first ask you to choose bank, then enter account manually.
After that you return to your deposit details, no option to view the account and of coz you cant find where to edit.
So be careful.
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Yup. Finally someone confirmed my experience. Glad that we are on the same page. biggrin.gif

I also checked back my FD and now confirmed that the certificates are available for viewing.

Now I don't know whether I have entered my withdrawal account number correctly or not... sweat.gif

I try uplifting one TD-i and place a new TD-i again but they never prompt me for a new withdrawal account.

Cham liao... laugh.gif

Dangerous bank...

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Aug 8 2024, 04:46 PM)
6 months 4.7% only can see it after open BEU?
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There is NO such thing as 6 month 4.75%... 6 month is 3.75%...

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