take a peak over the last 2-3 pages for some info.

ACCA is based in UK. U'll not get max exemptions unlike those who went to UK or Australia.
Its a little troublesome, U'll have to submit your transcripts to ACCA seeking exemptions.

U could look at this ACCA site to find out what are exempted
http://www.accaglobal.com/join/exemptions/

FYI: for UBC this is whats on the site "There are no assessed programmes for this institution."
https://portal.accaglobal.com/accrweb/faces...tionsTable.jspx

students are allow to work a max of 20hrs during school term, 40hrs during holidays. kinda the same deal with every country, USA, UK, Australia. U are thinking of Accounting might as well do this program in UK . do get paid for the 18mth
http://www.lums.lancs.ac.uk/departments/Ac...duate/eydegree/
http://www.lums.lancs.ac.uk/faqs/eydegree/#5204
ain't as good a Lancster EY's deal but do offer 1 yr work placement
http://business-school.exeter.ac.uk/undergraduate/ba_af/

upon completing studies, today the Canadian gov let U apply for a 2yr work VISA to stay in Canada to seek employment.
should U find a job, U can apply for a PR (usually take 10-12mths to get approve). cost fo VISA maybe under CND$1000, cost of PR application also around CND$1000, employ lawyer to do it fees cost around CND$2000-5000. U find plenty of Filipinos taking up canadian Citizenship and going to US to work after 3-4yrs into their PR status.
thing is its so much easier to get PR, problem here is no much jobs there. thats why U find many Canadian coming to US to work. special treaty don't have to be bog down the VISA thingy.
Oops... have U given up on US Uni? updated the thread since now I know u are looking at accounting not so much on finance
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/367446/+360

a survey of the job market in canada, try below sites
http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/Intro_eng.aspx
http://www.monster.ca/
www.careerbuilder.ca
http://www.jobsincanada.com/

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 8 2009, 12:08 AM

I'm a prospective Canadian Uni student. Called CEC a while ago to ask about application help etc etc and the counsellor was abit un-knowledgeable albeit nice. She told me to apply in January. Now I'm VERY sure that's quite late for a Sept 2010 intake, so I am planning to ignore their stupid advice and start applying now...

Planning to apply to U of Waterloo, U of T & McGill.
Regarding the Ontario Unis, their OUAC app is a BIT confusing. I hope someone can give me a lil' boost here. And mind any Malaysian students in Canada tell me whether did you employ the help of CEC or went straight to the Uni representatives at the Canadian edu fair? I know my friend's bf did that, but mostly the fairs are in January, which IMO again, VERY late especially since I will be having my A-levels exam in January.

I like to study in Chanda, maybe some arts school or fashion design. Singapore is really hot, no winter, want to see the winter and go skating.
My friend study in the Singapore school of arts, maybe will go with me.

This post has been edited by gradoo: Oct 6 2009, 02:27 PM

seem like many ppl are having the same issue with CEC counselor around the region. my junior studying in Singapore went to the office there felt the same thing.
Its better for one to do you own research and empoly their help the certify true copies with application.
U dom't have to go to the candain uni fair to get the job done.
the 3 uni u applying to do have a nice pool of Malaysian student. They can guide u, or just get cec ppl to advice u with process should u do it in Jan.

pay CND$120 why choose only 2 Ontario uni? can take full adv and choose 3, can add Queens or Guelph etc
anyway, r u planning to do Sci/Engineering?

they do have instructions. didn't help?
http://www.ouac.on.ca/105/pdf/b_105_b.pdf

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Added on October 7, 2009, 2:03 amfashion design... which school u had in mind?
U can do skating here why go there? or u meant skiing...

This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 7 2009, 05:53 AM

Why not apply online?

I believe the qns is how to go about doing it.

I felt the need to fire this topic up, studying in Australia thread is already on a v3.0

This post has been edited by bobmarley1: Oct 12 2009, 03:15 PM

Certainly! whats so attractive about Canada? Care to promote a little?
Plenty of Adv ppl see in Australia.
- proximity
- "ease" of getting a job
- PR
- plenty of Malaysians etc etc

The way I see it :
- Cheaper postgrad fee ($13k CAD vs $25k AUD /year vs 13kGBP/year vs $25k USD) - but OZ PR can study for free
- A comp science PhD is virtually free (very few students since industry pay a lot better but lots of grants, scholarships etc) - but again, OZ PR can study for free too
- Easier to get PR compared to UK/US
- Spouse can work on student visa (compared to US)
- Closer to US/Europe - can travel to a lot of interesting places
- Less Malaysians
- Can import food

This post has been edited by Syd G: Oct 19 2009, 04:11 PM

with OZ PR don't think can study free.
knew ppl with that still paying just at cheaper rate.
today U are slowing finding ppl at their late 20s or early 30s with college degree and working experience applying for OZ PR with hope to get domestic rates.

so easy to get a PHd there? how many students are admitted each yr? whats the attrition rates?
postgrad in OZ (Masters/Postgrad Dip) intake is Huge unlike Canada.

Less Malaysians could be a Con to many here.

I can only talk about my field (Comp Sc) tho. OZ PR can study free, well almost free (not Masters by Cousework tho - MPhil, PhD) due to Research Training Scheme offered by the government.

I checked the list of postgrad CompSc students in Waterloo, UBC, UoT - they're often non-Canadians. Programmers are paid (median) approx $60kCAD/year by the industry so students dont really want to go back to school and study postgrad. For those who did, government schemes and grants usually only cover tuition fee and $12-15kCAD in stipends - that has to be earned by research assistantship and teaching assistantship. If you calculate correctly, that's a tad higher than minimum wage in Ontario Prolly lower than their unemployment insurance pay Undergrad CS graduation rate is around 60% in the US (http://devcentral.f5.com/weblogs/macvittie/archive/2009/03/19/computer-science-cool-versus-cash.aspx). It's VERY HARD to get a PhD under Canadian/American system compared to UK - the latter tend to be more structured and streamlined (e.g 3 year PhD course, or 4 year iPhD [new route] course). I dont have any knowledge about getting a PhD in Australia tho.

My first choice is CA, followed by AU and UK. But scholarships/opportunities to be RA/TA will prolly be my main deciding factor.

TA and RA isn't scholarship more like assistantships.
Uni do at offer fellowship/Scholarships.

I guess many are happy to find a job concerning the are not easy to come by. Tax is a neat thing in canada.
at 60k income, 4.5K goes to Provincial tax, 10.4k goes to Federal tax, still pretty rich.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html
oz tax little lower, paying around $12k in taxes.
http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content....u=42585&mfp=001

True, a Phd grad can only start of fresh in the industry.. my company just hired a Phd CS grad from Ottawa as an entry level Software engineer.
true, CS graduating rate in US is around 60% for good Uni like Stanford the graduation maybe as low as 20%. So when U look at Waterloo (so called MIT of Canada) the graduation may not be that high, or the size of cohort just isn't that big. I knew pals from Iowa state with GPA 3.8++ applied to Waterloo, UAlberta seeking aid.. all rejection due to lack of funding and thats in 2000 or 2001. With today Econ and fees going up.. I doubt funding are all that generous. hey things may have change. All the best in your application.

OZ, I have to say in general.. I knew ppl doing Pharm (Msc research) no aid, Phd in Med, Econ (aid also hard to come by).

UK structured? they have little to no coursework to do. Just sit in for classes if needed.. what do u mean by more structured? streamlined in terms of yrs? 3yrs means more streamlined? I say more focus. publish 1 work and most of the time U are done. US and Canada many times U need a couple, may delay graduation but U got more to show in your resume.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 20 2009, 01:25 AM

Ah my bad then. I meant to say assistantship in addition to scholarship. For International Students, some unis offer at least $1k-$2k a year per successful entrant as overseas students bursaries, the rest have to be earned

Well, if you look for UK uni websites, they'll always mention "3 years PhD" whereas North American institutes dont really put any range in their online prospectus. Focused is probably the right word for it

Btw, BCS in Waterloo is still under 'Bachelors of Math - Comp Science' and Masters - 'Masters of Math - Comp Science' instead of BSc and MSc.

I wonder how the job market is like for people like me.

Today, job market there I say not good.
just use monster.ca or carerbuilder.ca to check things out.

North America depends on how fast U clear your coursework and get done with your thesis.
coming from undergrad to a Graduate degree. plenty of coursework to clear. u do know anything below a b grade is "fail", min graduating gpa is usually B.
comp sci major, most advisors will tell u to take no more than 3 classes per term.
some ppl like TA, RA can be pretty stressful cannot help Prof publish work in a fix duration (usually 1 yr) he/she cut your funding and U are left with nothing, some ppl take min classes like 2 to focus on prof's research. oh.. u still need to find time to work on your own research, else how are u graduating? its not uncommon to find lots of CS/EE RA sleeping in the research Lab.
on avg ppl grad in around 5-6yrs. if u are doing liberal arts degree its typically longer 7-8yrs.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 20 2009, 10:06 PM

If job market condition is so bad I wonder if I can migrate to Australia after doing my master degree in Canada

Waterloo -> $16k per year tuition (-International Master's Student Awards on all admissions $5k) + $15k living expenses per year = approx CAD $25k/year. RM81k/year. Opportunities to TA and RA as well if I can tahan sleeping in the lab often . IF I can get in that is

Queen, Mac - almost the same.

UofQueensland -> $25k per year + $12k living expenses = approx AUD $37k/year. RM112k/year

Melb, Monash even more $ for living expenses. Groceries are more expensive in Australia too.

There are a lot of jobs that fits me in career builder & monster CA now. But you're right - they're all over the place hence I forsee moving around after graduation if I'd want to settle there.

Decisions decisions.

today, it will be hard for U to meet the pts req for U to migrate there.
many ppl take adv of the bonus pts from studying for 2yrs. Coursework masters wouldn't qualify U, need to do research work.
there is a growing num of ppl (applied for PR) head home to get a few yrs of experience which put them in a better position for oz jobs.
in another few yrs, the req to meet to migrate to OZ would be more stringent.

Canada with a population of over 33 millions and the number of graduates it produce there aren't that many jobs for everyone.
a search on software on monster.ca only yield 80+ jobs posted yesterday nation wide, out of these 30-50% isn't totally related to software, another 30%+ seeking for experience ppl which U wouldn't qualify. that leave U very few jobs that U could apply and look around U how many ppl are in the same shoes like yourself (lets include BS/MS/Phd ppl)? thats why U find many Canadians going to USA for jobs. this trend exist for a reason, being a PR U do not qualify for the special VISA thingy which allows u to get a job in US easily.

OZ depending what U choose to major in CS, U will also encounter a though time looking for jobs. OZ from my understanding they need networking ppl (.net, java, xml, ASP.NET, SQL) . I knew ppl (Australian) graduated with 1st class honors from UofMelb working in Bank doing very little SW. EE and CS jobs not easy to come by. The num of ppl going there for degree are far larger than Canada, lets not forget Education is the top 3 source of the country's revenue. although jobs in these area are greater, the competition can be alot stiffer.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...2-12332,00.html

if admission is guarantee U have to these uni, u ought to decide now. if not just apply and check the outcome and decide later.
there is a good num of ppl who applied to these Uni. Oh.. don't forget to do your GRE!
http://www.urch.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1690513

This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 23 2009, 03:15 AM

anywhere else i can go in person to enquire? besides the one in jalan ampang

i think i'm quite pressed for time, just need to know in general the deadlines, finances and procedures

i'm looking at undergrad, did a-levels, have to start freshmen within this year
(i'm really blur here coz i hadn't considered canada earlier)

try this
http://www.studycanada.ca/malaysia/counsel.php

Anyone from Uni of Toronto? I've been checking out its site and am overwhelmed by the number of options offered.

Can I know where do you stay? In one of the colleges' residences? Or somewhere else? Is the residence fees considered expensive (sorry, I've no clue about that)?

What college did you joined? And why is it important?

Thanks!

why don't U email the student group at

President
Mubeen Muhtar
Geophysics (3rd year)
mubeenmuhtar@yahoo.com

http://masatoronto.wordpress.com/about-us/