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TSLostWanderer
post Dec 17 2016, 07:24 PM, updated 9y ago

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https://shadowverse.com


A strategic multiplayer digital card game with over 400 cards and countless combinations! Available on Google Play and the App Store

Also recently made available on Steam for PC:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/

Reddit thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/

Didn't get to see a topic on this yet, if any has been made. Anyway for you guys who enjoys playing CCG ala Hearthstone (HS) & Magic the Gathering (MTG), you guys can try this game out. It is similar to HS and also is made by Japan's very on Pro MTG team. The game released outside of Japan was pretty recently, although the main market comprises of mainly Japanese (due to Cygames is a Japanese Company and has a few franchise games there as well), but usually it's not difficult to find a match either way - you see people from around the world as it is only 1 server connecting everyone everywhere. As for a complete newbie, if you join to date (as in NOW) - after completing the tutorial you will be getting around 3X-4X packs after tutorial completion alone, and 1 pack consist of 8 cards (common, rare, epic and legendary - although the game system is bronze, silver, gold and legendary), so it is not too difficult to get packs as a complete newbie, although it will eventually slow down because newbie benefits don't last long. Anyhow, there are instances you get around 3 to 8 packs for free occasionally due to the generosity of cygames (e.g most recently Japan pro MTG team won the MTG tournament, they gave out a total of 13 packs). Last but not the least, a new expansion is releasing by this week so it is foreseeable that new packs will be given out soon as well. Art style is anime style and you can change the Voice to Japanese as well - you need to search it up on how to do so.

Also, do read on re-rolling guides just in case if you do not like your cards from your newbie package (re-rolling means resetting account) and you can find it on the reddit thread.

There is arena mode too as well (building a deck out of random cards) so you can play that if you like arena mode and not constructed.

Famous HS players e.g. Hafu, Reynad, Kripp and Eloise is playing the game as well (although due to the recent release of MSG of HS, i guess they went back to HS full time mostly on stream).

Ranking system:
Beginner
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C
B
A
AA
Master

Each rank goes from 0 to 3 (E.g. D0, D1, D2, D3 into C0, C1, C2, C3 etc) and you do not lose rank at the end of the month, only the numbers behind only if you lose too much and NOT due to monthly reset, so if you do not wish to fight any good decks meaning the decks are somewhat incomplete but usually the players are lacking of skill but it is close to a competitive deck (40 cards in a deck), it is advised to stay below C rank.

Good luck and enjoy.


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post Dec 21 2016, 03:43 PM

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installed and played. wow.

its a WAIFU Hearthstone game!! lots of waifu arts.

similar mechanic like hearthstone but few more new mechanic makes it different.

1) evolve feature (for mid turn battle)
2) no over-RNG like hearthstone
3) and AUTO-SQUELCH

sometimes have ridiculous cards and cool combos. (but there are counters)

example:
Havencraft auto win card - enstatued seraph auto win after 3 turns (but there are counter for this = banish mechanic)

maker of "rage of bahamuts"(english one shutdown) and "grandblue fantasy" (onli japan). i think the rage of Bahamuts arts are translate to this game.

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post Dec 21 2016, 09:25 PM

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yup, was thinking seems like no one here likes this game since no one commented here, but seems like you like it, great, haha

and also, i'm not from the shadowverse team, just a random player there as well, thought of letting you guys know more on this game
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post Dec 21 2016, 10:51 PM

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ya man thanks for intro. randomly found kripp played it on youtube, but didnt bother to look into it. but after it came to steam, try it out. wow, it was good.

hope some will like it , and spread it to let more people know about this game.

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post Dec 22 2016, 10:54 AM

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I am playing this biggrin.gif converted to japanese voice for better experience !

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/file...s/?id=788439931

At least they are much more generous of giving card packs compare to hearthstone.
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post Dec 23 2016, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(stinger @ Dec 22 2016, 10:54 AM)
I am playing this  biggrin.gif converted to japanese voice for better experience !

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/file...s/?id=788439931

At least they are much more generous of giving card packs compare to hearthstone.
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cool!! thankss! later gonna download and replace it. rclxms.gif
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post Dec 24 2016, 12:57 PM

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New expansion coming at the end of this month.
I'm enjoying the game so far although ranking up is quite the grind.
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post Dec 24 2016, 04:05 PM

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all card games ranking up is a grind, its grindier in HS actually since it resets the ranking every end of the month

i just reached A2 but fell off back to A1 just because i always start first usually after that and all the games i play is vs elena heavan or just heavan in general vs my banner sword just helpless if my draw is bad or their draw can hold off my aggro, lul
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post Dec 24 2016, 04:08 PM

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cant wait for the expansion and tbe prebuilt deck

the alternate legendary art look nice
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Dec 24 2016, 04:05 PM)
all card games ranking up is a grind, its grindier in HS actually since it resets the ranking every end of the month

i just reached A2 but fell off back to A1 just because i always start first usually after that and all the games i play is vs elena heavan or just heavan in general vs my banner sword just helpless if my draw is bad or their draw can hold off my aggro, lul
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I got to A with banner sword too.
Now using storm haven climbing to A1.
Elana haven is really annoying to deal with.
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post Dec 24 2016, 10:11 PM

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i don't only play banner sword in the game but i would say that banner sword was easier to climb the ladder until at least A0, after that it became haven / banner / control blood for me, and control blood seems to be dealing with most decks at A1 to A2 i think, especially those elena haven

storm heavan is quite good currently as well, but as with most aggro decks if the opponent has heal and it has elena in it, it loses badly to it as well

i play all decks (due to dailies) but my most incomplete deck would be forest and rune, next would be shadow (i did try to buff it slightly by crafting due to dailies though), but since it's terrible currently so meh....other decks are working but still missing a few key cards
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post Dec 29 2016, 02:18 PM

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Guys, rage of bahamut is on!

free 10 pack ROB

and heard got free 1100 rupies for new years event (have to login consecutively)
cili sos

only pulled 1 legendary from free packs (the forestcraft wolf one)

edited: not crystal, its rupies

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post Dec 29 2016, 09:04 PM

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15 free packs - 1 free legendary

bought 30 packs - got like 6-7 legendaries

most of them duplicates, managed to get 3x of the rune spellboost legendary minion, lul, 2 x bahamut, others forgot
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post Dec 31 2016, 05:15 PM

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anybody wan to do the 20 private match thing, can hook up
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post Dec 31 2016, 08:57 PM

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the above you will need the non-lowyatians, because no one seem to be playing this much here, haha

i suggest visit the reddit site and add random ppl there if you want to do it, as for me, i am not doing it - you will need to add 20 different ppl to play with (and those ppl will use suicide blood mostly to get it done quickest)
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post Dec 31 2016, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Dec 31 2016, 08:57 PM)
the above you will need the non-lowyatians, because no one seem to be playing this much here, haha

i suggest visit the reddit site and add random ppl there if you want to do it, as for me, i am not doing it - you will need to add 20 different ppl to play with (and those ppl will use suicide blood mostly to get it done quickest)
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damn 20 different people
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post Jan 1 2017, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(nickykee @ Dec 31 2016, 09:22 PM)
damn 20 different people
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there is a megathread at reddit, go there and join
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/commen...nus_megathread/
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post Jan 1 2017, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(stinger @ Jan 1 2017, 06:46 PM)
there is a megathread at reddit, go there and join
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/commen...nus_megathread/
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got it rclxms.gif

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post Jan 4 2017, 01:14 PM

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If anyone haven't joined the Discord yet: https://discord.gg/3m3ab

It's preeeety good

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post Jan 11 2017, 04:12 PM

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So how is you guys progress so far?

My current best decks would be:
Daria Rune, Control blood, banner sword (updated), storm haven

Worst decks:
Forest and shadow

Mid tier:
Ramp storm Dragon

anyway, as a rank A2 player currently, without an almost complete deck, it makes the game lop sided as in the subtitute for key cards such as ancient elf or will of the forest makes it really hard to play against others, and so those are the main reason why it is the worst decks for me, and although shadow is slightly better in RoB, i find it that it is still weak in comparison to storm based decks as control shadow is still too slow in a way and weak towards haven as well.

Best win rates would be daria (when hand is almost perfect) and storm haven i would say as those decks are almost complete on my side
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post Jan 11 2017, 04:27 PM

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now on A0 rank

current good deck i have:
aggro blood(envybae) , face dragon(gamewith)

got a appmedia rune tempo deck (complete, but havent played around much yet)

trying to build a ramp,discard dragon and more control deck, but not enough cards/vials.

now keep facing aggro blood and daria rune on my ranks.

shadow nep looks fun.
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post Jan 11 2017, 09:23 PM

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i only play during dailies though as ranking up is kinda rewardless unlike hs whereby you can still gain some gold after X wins, but anyway in A0-A3, peerhaps AA till masters it will usually be vs daria, aggro blood and miracle roach decks

your best counter is to either play one of those 3 decks or have an aggro based theme deck yourself or if you use control base decks you need to have the vials to create an optimized deck

shadow nepth however, if quite inconsistent i heard and around 45-49% win rate
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Hey guys,

did you guys spend much money on this game?

thanks to the pre-built decks and holiday crystal promo, I had alot of fun with my :

1. midrange sword
2. budget storm haven
3. budget aggro vamp
4. bahamut ramp dragon
5. nephthys necro
6. daria rune - 2 variants

wishlist - expensive decks...maybe slowly collect vials to create :
1. leonidas sword
2. Seraph haven
3. prince of darkness haven - (絶望先輩デッキ) - from one japanese master player youtuber
4. OTK roach deck


Currently in C3 rank... twopick is quite challenging i still can't get a 5 win streak..
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post Jan 16 2017, 02:04 PM

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i fully f2p

struggling with forest and shadow but otherwise, my daria rune and control blood seems to be the best choice to play in A2 meta...both decks really draw dependent and daria rune especially, either you have it and it does nothing or an auto win when it does

as for take2:
first, it is on the choice of class, some say sword is the best second could be blood, worst may be forest or rune, no idea

second, it is on the choice of cards given, legendaries like odin / bahamut and olivia increases your win rates usually

third, it depends on your opponent decks

fourth depends on your skills and your opponent skills

i had my first 5 wins albeit only playing like 4-5matches, worst was 2 wins i think, got it from a kinda crazy sword deck

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post Jan 16 2017, 09:50 PM

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guys, you can check out the anime

shingeki no bahamut
Rage of Bahamut: Genesis

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just finished watching. its a good series. (can see animated jeane d arc, cerberus and others cameos)

they already announced 2nd season of the animation series

Rage of Bahamut: Virgin Soul (April 2017?)

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post Jan 24 2017, 12:44 AM

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i saw sumthing on reddit, otk dragonewt deck.

combo altered fate + wildfang dragonewt (do 20 dmg straight at turn 10, if 2nd draw get altered fate)

funny deck, quite fun, its quite cheap on vials too.

<OTK dragonewt link>

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and also JO meme deck lel. (all spells only with pendant)

<JO deck link>

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post Jan 24 2017, 08:56 AM

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i just reached my 12k ranked points monthly reward...around less thank 1k pts to reach A3, sometimes just can't break past the 300 pts mark due to bad draws/matchups, lul...and also due to the fact that i play accordingly to daily rewards, sometimes need to run weaker classes, lol

ok, just broke through A3, 1st pic 2 pts remaining, lul

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Jan 24 2017, 08:56 AM)
i just reached my 12k ranked points monthly reward...around less thank 1k pts to reach A3, sometimes just can't break past the 300 pts mark due to bad draws/matchups, lul...and also due to the fact that i play accordingly to daily rewards, sometimes need to run weaker classes, lol

ok, just broke through A3, 1st pic 2 pts remaining, lul

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wah gratz, i too lazy to grind ranks lol still at A1. just playing daily and experiment decks...
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post Jan 24 2017, 10:14 AM

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personally i'm not grinding either, just doing dailies while ranking up (hopefully) with self made decks

my sword deck amused me by getting 3 streaks, wasn't expected it to win in streaks as i don't have albert in it, lol
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post Jan 30 2017, 08:03 PM

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Recently started playing this game, now at rank B1. I only play swordcraft, was lucky enough to get 4 darias from free tickets laugh.gif .
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post Jan 30 2017, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(Beouwulf @ Jan 30 2017, 08:03 PM)
Recently started playing this game, now at rank B1. I only play swordcraft, was lucky enough to get 4 darias from free tickets  laugh.gif .
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beside stories, you can get more coins by beating AI hardest difficulty.

if u got enough daria, can build op annoying deck. turn 4 drop all those free spellcraft boosted minions.

hope u enjoy the game, it'll get frustrating on higher level rank. got salty and losing streak sometimes.
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well, daria is effective only probably till A3 rank and at AA, most people are playing effective counters and knows how to play well against it thus the win rate is lower

however, it is still largely dependent on your draws mostly and your opponents hand secondly so the win % is still slightly higher in a way, most effective vs daria should be haven and dragon i think
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daria on my rank is like very annoying...

1) Levi + piercing rune + crimson sorcery
2) Daria , fill whole board again.

alot of time keep hoping to draw enough aoe to handle them.

then i build only pure ward and healing experiment deck, play with them.

another one is the roach forestcraft. turn 6-7 15 dmg sleep.gif
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QUOTE(nickykee @ Jan 30 2017, 08:15 PM)
beside stories, you can get more coins by beating AI hardest difficulty.

if u got enough daria, can build op annoying deck. turn 4 drop all those free spellcraft boosted minions.

hope u enjoy the game, it'll get frustrating on higher level rank. got salty and losing streak sometimes.
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Thanks for the info! Just beat swordcraft on elite. Yeah sometimes I get bad draws like 3 of the same cards or high pp cards doh.gif .
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QUOTE(nickykee @ Jan 30 2017, 08:29 PM)
daria on my rank is like very annoying...

1) Levi + piercing rune + crimson sorcery 
2) Daria , fill whole board again.

alot of time keep hoping to draw enough aoe to handle them.

then i build only pure ward and healing experiment deck, play with them.

another one is the roach forestcraft. turn 6-7 15 dmg sleep.gif
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I've met quite a few of the first one, less of the second at C2-B0 rank. I've also met PtP+ Altered Fate, and my jaw dropped lol. And also roach is damn annoying, mordecai the duelist is also top on my annoying list.
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haven is shadowcraft's kryptonite / main weakness, as that class has the most banish type of effects and can negate those death rattles so its an easy matchup if played right

ptp was popular and was the top tier deck as it doesn't has any solid counters because amulet removal and top tier aggro decks like daria and blood doesn't exist, so if you try to semi flood a board usually forestcraft can easily remove them / heal up and play ptp

now it should not be that bad due to bahamut and more solid early and late game options vs ptp

roach is that you need to anticipate one and drop a solid wall, at least enough to soak 2 damage from spells, best would be that 3/7 ward minion and usually forest will surrender

if your ward is not that good, you will need to have minimum 2 on the board

to vs daria, usually you rush face or establish board presence with higher quality minions, if you trade with them, you will only win if they don't get daria

higher quality minions usually requires a hard removal spell like dance of death to remove from board and not with piercing rune

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post Feb 13 2017, 05:26 PM

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hi all , update

- new leaders "street fighter" edition



- 7 free RoB packs at 15 Feb - 27 for 7 million celebration.
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QUOTE(nickykee @ Feb 13 2017, 05:26 PM)
hi all , update

- new leaders  "street fighter" edition

- 7 free RoB packs at 15 Feb - 27 for 7 million celebration.
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No leader for havencraft?
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post Feb 13 2017, 05:37 PM

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No leader for havencraft?
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i think its as follow


Ryu - Dragon
Juri - Rune
Cammy - Forest
Chun Li - Sword
Karin - Haven
Claw/Vega - Blood
Dictator/MBison - Shadow

sos from reddit

https://app.famitsu.com/20170212_969263/
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QUOTE(nickykee @ Feb 13 2017, 05:37 PM)
i think its as follow
    Ryu - Dragon
    Juri - Rune
    Cammy - Forest
    Chun Li - Sword
    Karin - Haven
    Claw/Vega - Blood
    Dictator/MBison - Shadow

sos from reddit

https://app.famitsu.com/20170212_969263/
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It doesn't seem to fit for shadowverse and street fighter. sweat.gif
The art style also seems different than the other leaders.
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QUOTE(Patent @ Feb 13 2017, 05:48 PM)
It doesn't seem to fit for shadowverse and street fighter. sweat.gif
The art style also seems different than the other leaders.
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ya me think so too, many complain in reddit also lol
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just hit aa0 from doing dailies only (quest oriented), anyway, there is free additional 7 packs (from the free of nearly 40 packs on top of it) currently to anyone who is interested to join in the game, and if you have not claimed your 7 packs also can be done now

forest is my least played class due to missing 3x ancient elf, but anyway, since i can't seem to find one i crafted one finally today, lul

may craft another one if daria gets nerfed due to the community but who knows, the most "reasonable" nerf if it is to daria would be adding just one additional cost from 9 to 10 mana if there is any nerf to it imo, other than that, it's pretty fine i think

people lose to daria is because they can't make decks good enough to win against it usually cause daria is hogging the lower ranks and most of the people have limited cards during then

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just hit aa0 from doing dailies only (quest oriented), anyway, there is free additional 7 packs (from the free of nearly 40 packs on top of it) currently to anyone who is interested to join in the game, and if you have not claimed your 7 packs also can be done now

forest is my least played class due to missing 3x ancient elf, but anyway, since i can't seem to find one i crafted one finally today, lul

may craft another one if daria gets nerfed due to the community but who knows, the most "reasonable" nerf if it is to daria would be adding just one additional cost from 9 to 10 mana if there is any nerf to it imo, other than that, it's pretty fine i think

people lose to daria is because they can't make decks good enough to win against it usually cause daria is hogging the lower ranks and most of the people have limited cards during then
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post Feb 21 2017, 04:16 PM

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tried it but felt it was a bit "compressed" and "complicated". hard to really explain but visually, it seems to cram alot into a small phone display. and the gameplay... seems quite complex.

but... good thing is... whatever rewards they give out earlier before you joined, you actually get it. or i think i did anyway...

but in the end, decided to uninstall and stick back to HS. i know... HS has got it's own issues...
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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Feb 23 2017, 03:57 PM)
tried it but felt it was a bit "compressed" and "complicated". hard to really explain but visually, it seems to cram alot into a small phone display. and the gameplay... seems quite complex.

but... good thing is... whatever rewards they give out earlier before you joined, you actually get it. or i think i did anyway...

but in the end, decided to uninstall and stick back to HS. i know... HS has got it's own issues...
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they already ported to steam. higher res graphic.

you can link your mobile device copy to steam.
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they already ported to steam. higher res graphic.

you can link your mobile device copy to steam.
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oh... but... my only gaming device = smartphone... heh heh...

never mind. i plan to revisit this game in the next 1-2 months... just to check new bonuses... biggrin.gif
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if you guys didn't noticed, there is a new patch that provides 3 x 3 new quests and also new elite AI to fight x 7 total of 1400gold to be won

the elite2 AI uses almost meta decks though, so certain classes may be better vs certain classes eg haven vs necro

anyway have fun playing the story mode, haha
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post Mar 22 2017, 02:53 PM

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was thinkin quittin becuz main dragoncraft

all the banana meme cards in the new expansion...then suddenly....

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honestly dragoncraft isn't in a bad state actually

if you play the neutral shaha, luci & baha drag it's one of the best decks out there, albeit a little expensive if you didn't get the cards

i find myself losing against those decks quite often actually, lol, t7 free lucifer is too strong
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Mar 22 2017, 07:51 PM)
honestly dragoncraft isn't in a bad state actually

if you play the neutral shaha, luci & baha drag it's one of the best decks out there, albeit a little expensive if you didn't get the cards

i find myself losing against those decks quite often actually, lol, t7 free lucifer is too strong
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i got the saha, luci, baha deck, but sometimes keep losing in a row (4-5 times) in rank matches. havin hard time with nep deck, roach aggro, dimension shift, guardian sun satan in rank. early game always no enough oomph.

what deck do your normally play? so what you think about the new expansion

edited: typo and also sword's albertcraft cry.gif

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usually most of my decks are creature agrro / mid aggro range

sword: self made tempo banner sword - previously i don't have any alberts at all, using goblin mage to pull 2 drops, now it mixes in 1 drops, and also angelic barrage to kill aggro for tempo and more face damage, also i use the 5 drop avant blader and also admiral for more tempo plays, now i crafted 1 albert to sub for the avant blader (would swap both but sometimes the pull is nice to punch through wards)

shadow: aggro shadow with 3 cerb, frankly it's kinda self made also, i teched in the 2 drop that deals 1 damage upon evolve first before it became meta but yea, i don't play much shadow above A ranking nowadays since it's kinda weak to daria especially

dragon: storm drag with baha, some days it works fine, some days it's kinda bad, but it still win games

blood: bloody mary succubus erinyes deck, self made as well, really weak to aggro but can win vs decks like guardian sun satan usually

forest: tempo roach self made, not top tier but kinda okish to win a few games, due to lack of ancient elves

rune: daria self made nuff said

haven: storm haven self made

most of the decks i would say, if not all are self made, i don't net deck as in purposely go into a site and view how decks are build, at most get some info vs other players and cards that were used and think that if it is better than X card used in my deck. of course, sometimes certain legendaries i don't have them and have to craft / sub with other cards that lower down the deck consistency

i rarely play win condition cards like seraph / satan / etc

with the next expansion coming, dragon is having a slightly easier time vs shadow i would say, other than that personally i have no idea what is good so far as i paid very little time to analyze the cards, usually i will only look into it after pack openings, i don't get worked up on "hey X card looks awesome, i must have it in my deck upon release", instead i have X card now, will it work in my deck? unless of course if i find that X card is affordable in my deck and i lost to it too much in multiplayer i may craft it, usually that would take like maybe about 1 month or so of play

to fight albertcraft, the main thing about it is that you need wards early game or heals mid game, and if you are healing you need to have tempo heals like hatching amulets for creatures to trade, otherwise, most likely you will lost from turn 6 to 9

if not you need to drop creatures with storm / effects to kill off other creatures and pray that you could survive till you find a ward creature, trading a creature on the next turn is usually too late to survive

it is best to have at least 5 to 7 hp left by turn 6 at minimum and a ward creature like goblinmount that doesn't get removed by DoD otherwise usually gg
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Mar 24 2017, 12:19 PM)
usually most of my decks are creature agrro / mid aggro range

sword: self made tempo banner sword - previously i don't have any alberts at all, using goblin mage to pull 2 drops, now it mixes in 1 drops, and also angelic barrage to kill aggro for tempo and more face damage, also i use the 5 drop avant blader and also admiral for more tempo plays, now i crafted 1 albert to sub for the avant blader (would swap both but sometimes the pull is nice to punch through wards)

shadow: aggro shadow with 3 cerb, frankly it's kinda self made also, i teched in the 2 drop that deals 1 damage upon evolve first before it became meta but yea, i don't play much shadow above A ranking nowadays since it's kinda weak to daria especially

dragon: storm drag with baha, some days it works fine, some days it's kinda bad, but it still win games

blood: bloody mary succubus erinyes deck, self made as well, really weak to aggro but can win vs decks like guardian sun satan usually

forest: tempo roach self made, not top tier but kinda okish to win a few games, due to lack of ancient elves

rune: daria self made nuff said

haven: storm haven self made

most of the decks i would say, if not all are self made, i don't net deck as in purposely go into a site and view how decks are build, at most get some info vs other players and cards that were used and think that if it is better than X card used in my deck. of course, sometimes certain legendaries i don't have them and have to craft / sub with other cards that lower down the deck consistency

i rarely play win condition cards like seraph / satan / etc

with the next expansion coming, dragon is having a slightly easier time vs shadow i would say, other than that personally i have no idea what is good so far as i paid very little time to analyze the cards, usually i will only look into it after pack openings, i don't get worked up on "hey X card looks awesome, i must have it in my deck upon release", instead i have X card now, will it work in my deck? unless of course if i find that X card is affordable in my deck and i lost to it too much in multiplayer i may craft it, usually that would take like maybe about 1 month or so of play

to fight albertcraft, the main thing about it is that you need wards early game or heals mid game, and if you are healing you need to have tempo heals like hatching amulets for creatures to trade, otherwise, most likely you will lost from turn 6 to 9

if not you need to drop creatures with storm / effects to kill off other creatures and pray that you could survive till you find a ward creature, trading a creature on the next turn is usually too late to survive

it is best to have at least 5 to 7 hp left by turn 6 at minimum and a ward creature like goblinmount that doesn't get removed by DoD otherwise usually gg
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cool, nice decks there thumbsup.gif

thanks for tips thumbup.gif, i run alot of early wards (alot of ding dong, goblinmount, imprisoned dragon), but still sumtimes cannot beat the aggro and albertcraft. heals also not in time..really depend on luck and the card you draw.
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ding dong is kinda useless unless if you play heal / seraph type decks cause it doesn't kill the creatures on the board upon a "trade", if you evolve it you wasted an evolve on it


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should swap in the unicorn right?

edited: but sumtimes i cant stop the storm followers, was using ding dong to play the stall game.

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unica is one of the best anti aggro cards for now, although it dies the next turn usually but that kills their unit too as well
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so how you guys playing the game so far?

in a way, i still find my shadow kinda lacking, lul, prolly too midrange although i gear it up for aggro, just that dragon ramp too quick with heals makes it seem so hard to beat, mostly i think otk decks can win neutral legend drag decks now

other than that, seems like the game didn't change much yet i think except drag got notably even stronger, daria got weaker but replaced with dirt golem rune


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Still not sure whats good in this new expansion.
Aegis feels so OP.
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post Apr 1 2017, 11:28 PM

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ramp dragon very strong now

the 5 point legendary help ramp quickly and puts a body and heals

evo wind reader into ouroborus (3+8 dmg to face)

turn 2 dragon oracle turn 3 into rahab

and saha into israfil

was blasting through rank matches just reach AA0 rank

edited: with other usual tools turn 10 urd+forte, saha+lucifer
edited2: turn 9 forte + dragoon scyter (7 dmg storm to face)

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QUOTE(Patent @ Apr 1 2017, 10:05 PM)
Still not sure whats good in this new expansion.
Aegis feels so OP.
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aegis and tos is a turn 8+9 or turn 9+10 combo

if you are really lucky or you liquify everything to make ramp leggy drag or maybe bought crystals to open more packs so that you could get more cards to get ramp drag, ramp drag main weakness is only otk deck or aegis i think, because it ramps so fast now and it heals and deals damage

otherwise, dshift roach and seraph could win ramp drag maybe, if ramp drag cant banish the seraph or has no taunts to negate dshift / roaches

6pp salamander breath wipes most aggro boards, pp7 saha luci combo heals damage, pp8 luci/ ouboros, pp9 israfil, pp10 baha / zeus is kinda crazy comparing to aegis actually
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saw one dragon combo....saha+zeal+big creature, didnt know can use that way.

need 9 play orb
saha into israfiel into zeal
then zeal evolved into israfiel storm , 8dmg to face + 2dmg aoe

can be done with bahamut with 13dmg storm to face

zeal is really a smorc card.

can use wyvern cavalier to lower saha or zeal.
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you can even zeal + ouro to deal 8 + 3 damage at 10 pp if you don't have saha zeal baha combo, its actually kinda crazy anyway but you need to have a lot of legendaries in that dragon deck

if you put a lot of high cost cards you will get out run by shadow aggro but other forms of mid range to control most likely can win unless if it is aegis / dshift

storm dragon with forte boost the win rate higher against aegis and dshift though
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alot of aggro decks player at A0 ranks now ... (myself having Eachtar aggro deck) aimed for 竜殺し (Dragon Killer)


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