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post Feb 15 2007, 09:38 PM, updated 19y ago

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I just finished watching this. I was riveted from beginning to end, although we all know how it ends. Heart-wrenching and brilliant.

9.5/10.

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post Feb 15 2007, 09:43 PM

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when malaysia start showing this movie ah??? really hope to watch le...
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post Feb 15 2007, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Feb 15 2007, 09:43 PM)
when malaysia start showing this movie ah??? really hope to watch le...
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You see muslim terrorists praying while hijacking a plane in the film. No way will it be aired here. Just get the dvd.
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Feb 15 2007, 09:43 PM)
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This movie quite sometime already. If not mistaken is last year summer movie. At first i saw it will be showing in GSC. Then postponed then no more sign of this movie already.

It is a nice movie. This movie style is like a documentary type. Like it a lot. Tear automatically drop before the plane crash.
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post Feb 15 2007, 10:12 PM

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How does this compare with World Trade Center (which was really teruk)?
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post Feb 15 2007, 10:36 PM

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Just another US political agenda. A bit like Black Hawk Down. It only shows the good side of America. How "innocent" they are.

But if you put that aside, it's quite a good movie. Not brilliant, but better than WTC in my opinion.


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post Feb 15 2007, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(maniac_rage @ Feb 15 2007, 10:36 PM)
Just another US political agenda. A bit like Black Hawk Down. It only shows the good side of America. How "innocent" they are.

But if you put that aside, it's quite a good movie. Not brilliant, but better than WTC in my opinion.
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How does it show the americans are good? The movie only unexploitedly (is this a word? laugh.gif ) explores what happened during the 2 hours of the doomed plane - from take-off to it's demise. It also shows how vulnerable, chaotic, and inefficient the air traffic staff and controllers and the military become as they were totally surprised to know that a hijacking has happened.

BTW the director is Paul Greengrass, a British.
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post Feb 15 2007, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(maniac_rage @ Feb 15 2007, 10:36 PM)
Just another US political agenda. A bit like Black Hawk Down. It only shows the good side of America. How "innocent" they are.
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Em, this movie doesnt take sides at all. Neither does it make any political statement. Its just recreated events as it happened.

Burga - who initially wasnt all that impressed on the first viewing.
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Wow, this movie came out last year and now only got thread tongue.gif But yea, this movie is very nice. Lotz of suspence and its very dramatic. WTC can't be compared with this piece of brilliance.

What I like bout this movie is that everything looks so real as though you're one of the Americans on 911. Nothing detailed bout the Pentagon and WTC crashes, all we know is they crashed. The directing was very focused in the United 93 plane and it really showed me the courage that those people had.

Nice movie thumbup.gif
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post Feb 16 2007, 12:33 AM

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this movie is really offending. the only good thing about it was the continuous 'tension' it created esp during the last minutes. a good b-movie for the summer. at least its wayy better than preachy-emo-shit WTC.
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post Feb 16 2007, 12:35 AM

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is this one involved alot of towers conversation? If yes, it is pretty boring imo. The dialog is very tense somehow the motion picture doesn't seems so aggressive. haha

Another got alot of action on the plane. I prefer dat one. It's so sad to see them 1 by 1 calling back home. And the families members couldn't do anything. All we can do is crying for miracle.

One thing i think terrorist is smart bout shaving off the hair before tie up the C4. tongue.gif
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post Feb 16 2007, 10:20 AM

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hahaha old movie la laugh.gif but i say more dark than WTC n thks 2 this event bush n amerika got their ass saved or else amerika is gonna bcum normandy/pearl harbor laugh.gif

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post Feb 16 2007, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(malayneum @ Feb 16 2007, 12:33 AM)
this movie is really offending. the only good thing about it was the continuous 'tension' it created esp during the last minutes. a good b-movie for the summer. at least its wayy better than preachy-emo-shit WTC.
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How is it even offending? You call every movie you dont like a B-movie. You can jack off to your Khairy. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 16 2007, 11:44 AM)
How is it even offending? You call every movie you dont like a B-movie. You can jack off to your Khairy.  tongue.gif
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i can safely say any movie which lacks longevity is a b-movie. how can this movie not offending? its explicitly provoking and sullied the dignity of all arabs. you should be offended by this movie coz ure an asian rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 16 2007, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(malayneum @ Feb 16 2007, 12:35 PM)
i can safely say any movie which lacks longevity is a b-movie. how can this movie not offending? its explicitly provoking and sullied the dignity of all arabs. you should be offended by this movie coz ure an asian  rolleyes.gif
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It's not my or the filmmakers fault that the terrorists were arabs. There's even hard proof from the plane's blackbox that the terrorists were praying before the plane plummeted. No one is blaming arabs in general. No one is blaming Islam.
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post Feb 16 2007, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(malayneum @ Feb 16 2007, 12:35 PM)
its explicitly provoking and sullied the dignity of all arabs.
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yea, so i assume you take it that any movie villian's ethnicity is an insult to their race? lets see, we have the quintessential commie emotionless Russian, the worker bee Jap, the nerdy asian kid in college, the stuffy Brit, the American Nam soldiers who commit atrocities, the French with their exaggerated accents, the Italian who is always connected to the mob.....


Go watch your happy happy joy joy Disney cartoons dude. wink.gif

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post Feb 16 2007, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Feb 16 2007, 04:54 PM)
yea, so i assume you take it that any movie villian's ethnicity is an insult to their race? lets see, we have the quintessential commie emotionless Russian, the worker bee Jap, the nerdy asian kid in college, the stuffy Brit, the American Nam soldiers who commit atrocities, the French with their exaggerated accents, the Italian who is always connected to the mob.....
Go watch your happy happy joy joy Disney cartoons dude. wink.gif
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yeah and i hope you realize that YOU yourself fits in very well to one of those stereotypes, geek boy. same silly-ass looking and all. now stop watching movies and go study your ass off nod.gif
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post Feb 16 2007, 08:58 PM

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pretty boring movie.

prefer Air Force One tongue.gif
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post Feb 16 2007, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(wiNd @ Feb 16 2007, 08:58 PM)
pretty boring movie.

prefer Air Force One tongue.gif
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Completely different movies. One is an action movie the other is a gut-wrenching retelling of what happened on september 11th. Though Air Force One is by no means a bad movie, it's still enjoyable. But you really cannot compare them both.

malayneum you look like one of those regular trolls whose arguments hold no water whatsoever.
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post Feb 16 2007, 09:09 PM

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dont worry, im not comparing the both. anyway, United 93 is kinda boring to me. too many dialogues and scenes on control tower.

anyway, there is another flick called FLIGHT 93....anyone?
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I didnt like this movie. I cant find big faults with it, but i just didnt like it. The article in reader's digest about flight 93 moved me more than this film did.

IMO, it's too soon to make a movie about September 11.

Maybe i would have a different opinion if i viewed it a second time, as Burga implied. But i dont think i would be bothered to.


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post Feb 17 2007, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(malayneum @ Feb 17 2007, 01:09 PM)
but im just saying it will just stir-up more anti-muslim and racial prejudice among the already ignorant and xenophobic americans.
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well then I guess it's because the people themselves are ignorant. Dont blame the film. That's like saying we shouldnt have cars because they cause accidents.
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post Feb 17 2007, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 17 2007, 01:19 PM)
I said they tried to recreate. Of course they couldn't know EXACTLY what happened in the plane, they could only TRY, based on the phone calls from the passengers onboard and the blackbox. And I thought they did a good job of it. They didnt try hollywood dramatics. In fact there is very little music in the whole
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oh yeah? then why during the end credits it says 'america's war on terror had begun' instead of 'dedicated to the lost lives in 911' . does that not a sign of 'HATRED'? rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 17 2007, 01:33 PM

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It is a dry statement of fact, congruous with the film. 'Dedicating' it would be pandering sentimentality. Neither one of them is a 'hollywood' dramatic

EDIT: Woops my bad there about the end titles. Cant recall the ending except for that exquisite restrained closing shot. wink.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(malayneum @ Feb 17 2007, 01:28 PM)
oh yeah? then why during the end credits it says 'america's war on terror had begun' instead of 'dedicated to the lost lives in 911' . does that not a sign of 'HATRED'? rolleyes.gif
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you got it the other way round. It said "dedicated to the victims of 911".

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[last title cards]
Title card: Of the four aircraft hijacked that day, United 93 was the only one that did not reach its target. It crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania at 10:03am. No one survived.
Title card: Military commanders were not notified that United 93 had been hijacked until four minutes after it had crashed. The nearest fighter jets were 100 miles away.
Title card: At 10:18am, the President authorized the military to engage hijacked aircraft. Fearing an accidental shoot down, military commanders chose not to pass the order to pilots in the air.
Title card: By 12:06pm every civilian airliner over America had been forced to land. Amidst an unprecedented military mobilization, US airspace was closed until further notice.
Title card: Dedicated to the memory of all those who lost their lives on September 11, 2001.


http://imdb.com/title/tt0475276/quotes

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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Feb 17 2007, 01:33 PM)
It is a dry statement of fact, congruous with the film. 'Dedicating' it would be  pandering sentimentality. Neither one of them is a 'hollywood' dramatic
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 17 2007, 01:41 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you got it the other way round. It said "dedicated to the victims of 911". Ha!
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seems like you people have no idea what im talking about

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I admittedly couldnt recall the title cards as I last watched the film months ago. I apologize for that mistake. Nevertheless, the point of discussion was whether 'America's war on terror had begun' was a 'hollywood dramatic'; so I suppose you dont really know what you are talking about either. tongue.gif laugh.gif Btw I'll give u the benefit of doubt, did you mistakenly watch Flight 93? Because from what I've heard, that one is a cliche ridden, rah rah version of the events.

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QUOTE(malayneum @ Feb 17 2007, 01:45 PM)
seems like you people have no idea what im talking about

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Elaborate please.
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post Feb 17 2007, 01:55 PM

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i suggest u all to study more about a film before making blabbering comments here. user posted image

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_93_%28...roduction_notes
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United 93 eh? Gonna add that to my list of 'have-to-watch' movies...

Well, movies, unlike documentary, can be fictional, spiced-up with some imagination, without grounds or whatsoever, not necessary factual as well. So in the end, it'll definitely draws critic, appraisal and commentary on it. Or some just yawn all the way from the start till the end.

Offensive? It's natural, isn't it? Movies were made to provoke the audience senses... Passion of the Christ, Munich, Fahrenheit 9/11, Titanic and more were created based on the directors imagination after all. It's not real, but we all know media is a strong form publicity and propaganda spreading method. Movies are one of the many method to do it, effectively.

Like malayneum himself, always claiming himself a Rempit, but I'd never saw any Rempit would woke up 8:25am in the morning, log into LY.net and post a couple of threads expressing his own will and draws some serious flamethrower stunt from fellow members. If u guys response to his comment, you all were some how DUPED... just ignore him... he'd just enjoy the attention...

Since I haven't watch it, I wonder how forummers here rate this movie against other aeroplane-based movies like Snakes on the Plane laugh.gif and other?

I think at best, the movie tried to show the innocent side of the passengers in the cabin rather the whole America themselves, for starter, there might be some Muslim American passenger in the flight as well. Sorry, if it goes offtopic...
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Well you are only telling half the story then. The 'release' version is the one the public got to see, and the one we are discussing.
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Dude, we were talking about Hollywood dramatics. Secondly, title cards are often inserted by the studio and the director may not have any say.
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Feb 17 2007, 02:04 PM)
it doesnt matter, it means the director have some 'hateful' intention while making the movie. and decided to change it last minute as some sort of 'cover up'.
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You said the directors are biased and racist but your views are equally biased and full of racist remarks about Americans. Why don't you just accept that a group of Arabs have done a horrible thing to Americans? What does all this people who died on the planes and WTC have to do with Americans politics and policies. Have you ever thought that if 9 /11 have not happened, the whole world would be a better place today.
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Feb 17 2007, 02:14 PM)
You said the directors are biased and racist but your views are equally biased and full of racist remarks about Americans. Why don't you just accept that a group of Arabs have done a horrible thing to Americans? What does all this people who died on the planes and WTC have to do with Americans politics and policies. Have you ever thought that if 9  /11 have not happened, the whole world would be a better place today.
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Feb 17 2007, 02:04 PM)
it doesnt matter, it means the director have some 'hateful' intention while making the movie. and decided to change it last minute as some sort of 'cover up'.
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They changed it because there are people like you in the world... people who shout 'racist!' when a film honestly portrays what happened.user posted image tongue.gif

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Can we just stick to topic?

Let's just leave the "right or wrong" debate in Real World Issues and talk about the finer points of film making here.

Let me get the ball rolling.

What part of the movie do you think the film makers did well and what would you change to make the film better?

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I found this movie bland and extremely boring. 911 nevar 4get !!1!!!1
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Damn, we were having fun running over malayneum. tongue.gif

I thought the best scene was the last few seconds of the film.
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ouh .. havent watch yet.

is it something like Loose Change? or Armageddon where the heroes r the americans?
if its something like Loose Change, then this movie is a 'must-watch'.

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Feb 18 2007, 12:11 PM)
ouh .. havent watch yet.

is it something like Loose Change? or Armageddon where the heroes r the americans?
if its something like Loose Change, then this movie is a 'must-watch'.
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dont bother watching it. just read the previous post.

 

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