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post Dec 10 2016, 02:53 PM

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post Dec 11 2016, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(brandon8921 @ Dec 10 2016, 11:56 AM)
Mind explain why do not install bulb not meant for the car? For example if my car stock is halogen projector, is it ok for me to just change HID bulb in the projector? Will it affect the beam pattern?
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The way light is distributed out of the bulb is different for HID, halogen and LED. The projector lens is designed specially for the bulb that is meant to be in there, AND it has to be installed the right way (right orientation, position etc.). Even installing the right bulb but twisted a bit can mean the light output is terrible/not the way it's supposed to be.

Also, since HID and LED output more light than the others (and the light is more blinding... yellow is less painful than blue) more care is taken to ensure that at all times others aren't blinded. When I drove through France, I encountered an older French car. Even though his light was very bright/aimed the wrong way, I was fine with it.

Also, yellow/orange light is easy on the eyes, it is reflected better when it is wet (IMHO my HID is outright awesome when it is dry, but when it is wet I might as well turn off my headlights... ok, not that bad, but IIRC halogen was better). So maybe if you want to have better light without blinding others, use yellow headlights.

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amad108
post Dec 12 2016, 07:11 AM

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using LED too to replace normal halogen bulb..
the result is YES, LED has shorter distance of beam but brighter because 900 lumens (halogen) VS 3000 lumens (LED) (lumens is unit for brightnees, while K kelvin is unit for color output for beam)

so even LED is brighter, but when high beam its distance not far, so to overcome this problem they create projector LED which more focus beam the result is longer distance
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post Dec 12 2016, 05:01 PM

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LED is best but short lifetime.
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post Dec 12 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Adnan M. @ Dec 12 2016, 05:01 PM)
LED is best but short lifetime.
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Huh?

Led last as long as the car lo

Hid can last 5 years easily
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post Dec 12 2016, 10:48 PM

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Experience wise, love the hid light vs led. Both with original equipped with car.

Hid, takes few second to light up. Light kinda more intensity, love the straight light output, light beam pattern kinda short (based on w211 mercedes car)

LED. Straight up full light. Light kinda lesser intensity vs hid. But light beam kinda longer and further. Beam pattern kinda not really sharp straight. Based on accord 9th led
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post Dec 13 2016, 05:20 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 12 2016, 10:48 PM)
Experience wise, love the hid light vs led. Both with original equipped with car.

Hid, takes few second to light up. Light kinda more intensity, love the straight light output, light beam pattern kinda short (based on w211 mercedes car)

LED. Straight up full light. Light kinda lesser intensity vs hid. But light beam kinda longer and further. Beam pattern kinda not really sharp straight. Based on accord 9th led
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No point comparing the tech. There are some cars with pretty good halogen (I think the 3rd gen Megane is good), while others are awful. Likewise with HID and LED, though those tend to be better in general. But there are big differences from model to model, and even within the model... there are like 9 different headlights for the Golf Mk 7. Not even counting the facelift. Excluding facelift I believe there are 4 major variants that are entirely different in their light output. 1 halogen (reflector), 1 HID (static), 1 HID (adaptive), 1 LED (static).
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post Dec 13 2016, 11:43 AM

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Depends on your projector.

If your car comes with a stock projector for halogen, i would say HID is your best choice. Car comes with stock LED have very small and focus LED projector and most have at least 2 LED per headlamp to really brighten up the road. For car that dont comes with LED projector but with LED headlamp, they have at least 4 LED to power up the headlamp.

And one more thing, do not buy HID conversion kit that is too cheap, the colour temperature will not be accurate, the base of the bulb itself will be plastic making the bulb unstable even when its clamped inside your headlamp, this will greatly effect the beam from your headlamp as the bulb is not seated properly or wobbling around ( i assume H7 bulb with clamp )
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post Aug 17 2021, 12:54 AM

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Wow last post was in 2016.
Moving forward just purchase a 2nd hand navara year 2010. Reflective headlamp no projector with factory fitted Xenon D2R.

I do lots if night driving where there are no street lights. My xenons are more that 10 years and i find them not so effective in the dark.

What should go for. Maintain xenon are switch to led.

What specific model of bulb should i go for. I like the color of 5k to 6k.

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post Aug 17 2021, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(mydavidng @ Aug 17 2021, 12:54 AM)
What should go for. Maintain xenon are switch to led.
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personally, go with LED that can use back the HID ballast and D2R socket without need for conversion, plug and play.

you'll need to adjust the beam pattern a bit, other than that LED is the way forward.
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post Aug 17 2021, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(mydavidng @ Aug 17 2021, 12:54 AM)
Wow last post was in 2016.
Moving forward just purchase a 2nd hand navara year 2010. Reflective headlamp no projector with factory fitted Xenon D2R.

I do lots if night driving where there are no street lights. My xenons are more that 10 years and i find them not so effective in the dark.

What should go for. Maintain xenon are switch to led.

What specific model of bulb should i go for. I like the color of 5k to 6k.

Tx
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I would suggest the same unit for replacement. It is known that the hid unit losing it power after few years using it, hence u saw less light output now compared to brand new
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post Aug 17 2021, 01:02 PM

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Am using LED in my projector, sample below

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post Aug 17 2021, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Aug 17 2021, 01:02 PM)
Am using LED in my projector, sample below

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Does it blind the opposite drivers?
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post Aug 18 2021, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Aug 17 2021, 03:19 PM)
Does it blind the opposite drivers?
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Definitely not. Watch till the end you'll see the beautiful cut off line and level of the lights. However I'm unsure of your ride but I didn't need to make any adjustment as it was all PnP. There's description in the video of where I bought it from.

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post Aug 18 2021, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Aug 18 2021, 12:31 AM)
There description in the video of where I bought it from.
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i'm on the same kit by GZSIMEWAY Store on Lazada! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 18 2021, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Aug 18 2021, 12:31 AM)
Definitely not. Watch till the end you'll see the beautiful cut off line and level of the lights. However I'm unsure of your ride but I didn't need to make any adjustment as it was all PnP. There's description in the video of where I bought it from.
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I guess it depends on the halogen quality. Tried last time HID on old waja with projector, the light was scattered all over the place. Worst, kene saman by JPJ for rm300.

Now using car with LED stock from manufacturers

 

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