Most car with projector headlamp come with yellowish halogen bulb
Which is more suitable for projector headlamp? Which is brighter and "shoots" further?
HID or LED bulb?

halogen longer light throw compare to led. but led better than halogen and hid

As per my experience, HID will have longer beam comparing to LED. IMO, LED beam is more focus but shorter beam. While, HID is vice versa. Brightness have to depends on the lumens. Your HID or LED bulbs are under which kind of category? China or original aftermarket?

HID hands down.... BUT it also depends on the projector lens...

MOST car???

u mean all PERODUA projector headlamp?



JDM/import car projector mostly run on HID but at 4300k rated bulb...

newer model runs on 5000k HID bulb from factory

and current trend now if not 5000k HID, factory will use LED


and only new perodua uses halogen projector headlamp....





as for which one is better for retrofit..depend on what u want....cheap reliable? expensive reliable? expensive reliable lower performance?


best LED headlight still wont get nowhere near best HID Projector... (not ahbeng cheap depo projector headlamp)

LED BULB conversion is as BAD as HID bulb conversion...

proper LED headlight system is LED projector conversion... google: Bi-LED projector retrofit

side note: google Bi-LED vs Bi-xenon

The new Honda Civic comes with Halogen projector which is really ugly. Thinking to change to HID or LED for the bright and white colour..

Now that you've mentioned it, my Civic's LEDs does indeed have a shorter throw than my previous car so I can confirm this.

LED's seem to work the best for me.
your mileage may vary though

if just bulb change for your current projector...


then definately u need HID bulb...not LED.. the LED bulb type not even decent performer....

because some good projector do accept HID bulb with decent performance (maintain sharp cut-off line, good hotspot)...but gotta try and see if its true on your car projector type

i see. i drive my bro's civic..i feel something wrong with the light throw..now i know why. (previously he drive 308 with hid projector).

Saw quite a lot of cars with stock halogen projector change to bright white HID/LED.
Now thinking of changing to OSRAM XENARC HID 6000K H11 on projector headlamp, and another size H8 6000k for fog lamp, as for high beam HB3 (9005) i will leave it stock with halogen type

This post has been edited by brandon8921: Dec 8 2016, 06:05 PM

for fog better maintain halogen....hid will cause glare...

highbeam should be halogen...because when use flash/turn on highbeam...we need fast start-up....

HID is slow start-up..so not really suitable for highbeam in separate design...


and dont go for 6000k.... 4300k-5000k is enough....u wont get better light output going higher colour range....

I sat in all three cars before and I really couldn't tell what difference in performance other than less energy consumption and looks nice

Beam throw all same like halogen

But still, my biggest concern was will it affect the beam pattern if change to HID? Had experience with my old vios that i change to HID and the beam pattern is totally unusable. It is like focus on 2 spot and not spread evenly on the road.
I understand this is due to reflector headlamp and not projector. But still...

Hid can only use a hid designed lamp , you cannot put a hid set into a halogen headlight , total waste of money , illegal and annoying as fak

Remember Jpj started clamping down on those idiots

The best best I can tell you is buy good halogen bulbs and you won't regret and save the hassle

This post has been edited by rcracer: Dec 9 2016, 11:30 AM

I just amazed with newest merz led headlamp. Damn bright but not glare opposite car

Argh. If the beam throw doesn't go far enough, ADJUST THE HEADLIGHT. Contis usually have a dial between steering wheel and door which lets you select how high you want to aim. If the car doesn't have that, there's something around the headlight itself that lets you adjust. But if you aim too high, you will blind other motorists, which is dangerous both for them and for you.

The problem is that depending on the load inside the car the headlights will aim too high or too low. So car manufacturers that don't have a dial inside will have to act conservative so that even with a full boot and passengers it won't aim too high... thus the short throw.

Do not install bulbs that were not meant for the car, unless you do a proper job retrofitting them. That doesn't just include lenses, but also having a way to quickly adjust where the headlights aim at, or better yet have the car do that automatically (almost all cars with HID have such an automatic system).

As for the Merc headlights... you're talking the Matrix LED ones? Nothing new. Opel had those a few years back already, and so did Audi I believe? And for HID these systems existed even longer. The only cool thing about the Merc ones is how many segments they have, and that they dim down the area around traffic signs too, so they don't reflect too brightly. I have such a HID based system in my Golf, and yeah, it's awesome. But the traffic signs do get too bright. I can highly recommend these systems, but I don't know any car in Malaysia that has it (as sold in Malaysia... there are quite a few models C segment and up that have such systems as an (expensive) option, on the Golf Mk 7 for example it's about RM 10k extra, around 1/8th or 1/9th of the price of a base spec Golf).

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Dec 10 2016, 04:15 AM

Mind explain why do not install bulb not meant for the car? For example if my car stock is halogen projector, is it ok for me to just change HID bulb in the projector? Will it affect the beam pattern?

U need to know that halogen bulb/ projector are different vs hid oem bulb. The light beam pattern output also different.

I have installed to my really old car, waja which originally comes with Projector headlamps. Yes originally the light output is really poor from the H1 bulb.

Change it to Hid for that projector. Even struggled to make the e light output to have like original hid car equipped. There are like a dark area which cannot cover by this hid on halogen bulb.

Best part, kantoi-ed with JPJ. The summons maybe is payable, but to spend 3 hours (730am -11am) at Jpj wangsa maju for reinspection do killing my day. Ask the Jpj about retrofit hid headlamp (change hid bulb and hid light) legal status here, they said it still illegal and they have power to give the summons, although it rarely for jpj to make roadblock nowadays.

Now bought car with original led, is Great on night-morning time.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Dec 10 2016, 12:09 PM

I have compared the Honda LED with Mercedes E250 Led. It like the Merz have double brightness and more light intensity. Although the beam length is similar

Yes price is different.