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 P4 Northwood vs Prescott GUIDE, P4 "C" vs P4 "E"

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raymond5105
post Jun 8 2004, 01:45 PM

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Go for northwood...!no temperature problems...
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post Jun 10 2004, 11:27 AM

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"Overclocking notes:

The PR does require good cooling for a good OC, even with the higher threshold.

The PR is capable of more per clock cycle than an NW. this means that a 200mhz OC on a PR will give a bigger performance boost than an eqivalent OC on an NW.

The PR and NW even out performance-wise, at around 3.4-3.5 ghz. The PR really starts to overtake the NW at around 3.6-3.7.

The PR has more potential as it is designed for way higher clocks than the NW which is reaching its limit."


taken from http://www.hardcoreware.net/

.. i like this quote too :

"To put it bluntly: Prescott becomes interesting after 3.6GHz; in other words, after it has completely left Northwood's clock speeds behind." from http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1956&p=25


...so u see, it ain't that bad after all. just slap on a big heat sink (or water cool) and fan, oc it til it's sizzling and some salt,spice... and u should be able to beat some NW a$$!

I'm gonna be a guinea pig coz i've got a 2.8e. tongue.gif Wish me luck!

This post has been edited by bum8um: Jun 10 2004, 11:43 AM
TSikanayam
post Jun 10 2004, 02:00 PM

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The only problem is, not many of us are willing to risk frying our mainboards or spend a few hundred ringgit more to go into watercooling when many of the 2.8c M0 northwoods are hitting 3.6+ GHz at little or no voltage increases, and without the power or cooling issues that the prescott presents.
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QUOTE (ikanayam @ Jun 10 2004, 02:00 PM)
The only problem is, not many of us are willing to risk frying our mainboards or spend a few hundred ringgit more to go into watercooling when many of the 2.8c M0 northwoods are hitting 3.6+ GHz at little or no voltage increases, and without the power or cooling issues that the prescott presents.

point taken. maybe i should be a guinea pig. don't know whether it's worth risking my board tho, although it's cheaper than most.

any recommendation for `better' boards? how do u change the V.core coz my bios/mobo doesn't allow it. or is it the cpu that's locked ?

mobo - msi neo2-pe
cpu - p4 2.8e
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post Jun 12 2004, 04:54 AM

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hmm...after reading all the arguments, i am still at a cross-road

should i
1. get the 2.8C
2. get the 2.8E

their price is the same ( quoted from a pricelist), i am planing to change the stock HSF to something from THermaltake or coolermaster or something equivalent, and my system is going to be a micro-atx ( i.e. tiny tower).

any sugestions?

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better mobo er ...

try abit A17

gigabyte 1100k or soemthing like that

asus p4p800
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question: is the IS10 from ABit a good Mobo for the northwood processor?
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just install p4 3.0e abit vt7 (via pt880) cheap board, my advice is, don't try it. maybe this board is meant for lower end market n i should not use a 3.0e on it. now swich to gigabyte 848 board (still consider cheap board, but w/ gigabit lan), then okay, stable liao. but then, don't use prescott in a office environment, stock fan sound like there is a motobike in your office, with engine on.
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ya...low end motherboard just for the low end Prescott P4 2.4A.
My DFI PT880 run this prescott very well, stable... no noisy sound too.....But still dont know what is my processor temperature running now sweat.gif , bcoz the MB dont have sensor for temperature(bcoz the cheap n low end Mbaord)
PC Running 4 night n 5 day without shutdown.........using Overnet to downloading movie n music, then playing Ragnarok........
!st night, restart for try the 3DMark2001se, can score 11071(Little bit low) with my G4 Ti4200 n Kingston 512MB PC3200.
Then try C&C General, ok!
2ND night,restart > try WE7Int n NFS:UG.... no problem.... finish download GXngYr SnZps 2. After movie, Ragnarok again.
3rd night, restart> try Silent Hill 3, WE7Int n Ragnarok again.
tonight will play WE7Int for warm up, later will go watching England VS Swiss match... biggrin.gif


PS: X=i , Y=e , Z=a
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post Jun 20 2004, 11:50 PM

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may i know wat is cache??wat is that use for??
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hi all,

just wanted to know is there any heating or other issues on the Extreme Edition (EE) of Pentium 4 CPU?? hope to hear some views on this.


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post Jun 21 2004, 06:25 PM

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not sure.but the presscott im using is darn hot.can reach abt 69 degrees! only a P4 2.8
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post Jun 26 2004, 06:28 PM

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thanks ikanayam for your explaination...
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post Jul 2 2004, 06:31 AM

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so if my friend is using pentium 2.8e, what can he do to reduce the heat and the loud noise?
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hmm... I guess no hope for him then.
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QUOTE (Jimbitz @ Jul 2 2004, 06:31 AM)
so if my friend is using pentium 2.8e, what can he do to reduce the heat and the loud noise?

r ur fren using PC at home??
Did he open the side panel case.....
if he dont mind to do it, buy a table fan for it...
I think it will be quiet n not that hot compare with b4....
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yeah, he's using it at home and planning to use it at college also. Would it be worth it for him to change the casing and HSF? The PSU also seems very hot, did he need to change it?
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QUOTE (nakata101 @ Jun 17 2004, 11:25 PM)
ya...low end motherboard just for the low end Prescott P4 2.4A.
My DFI PT880 run this prescott very well, stable... no noisy sound too.....But still dont know what is my processor temperature running now sweat.gif , bcoz the MB dont have sensor for temperature(bcoz the cheap n low end Mbaord)
PC Running 4 night n 5 day without shutdown.........using Overnet to downloading movie n music, then playing Ragnarok........
!st night, restart for try the 3DMark2001se, can score 11071(Little bit low) with my G4 Ti4200 n Kingston 512MB PC3200.
Then try C&C General, ok!
2ND night,restart > try WE7Int n NFS:UG.... no problem.... finish download GXngYr SnZps 2. After movie, Ragnarok again.
3rd night, restart> try Silent Hill 3, WE7Int n Ragnarok again.
tonight will play WE7Int for warm up, later will go watching England VS Swiss match... biggrin.gif


PS: X=i , Y=e , Z=a

Wah, I also using the same processor with Asus P4V8X-X motherboard and the Intel original box fan was damn noisy! running at 5100 rpm at 51C. I went to buy Artic Silver 5 to increase the heat transfer then it went down to 48C running at 4200rpm. Do u add anything on it?

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